Evil Penevil

Do you feel the massacre of Israelis and foreigners on Oct 7 qualifies as major antisemitism?

Defacing the statue of Anne Frank monument was disgraceful, about as low as it gets. It points to an increasing trend ampng pro-Palestinian activits: the targeting of Judaism in general and not just Israel and Zionism. The mask of pro-Palestine anti-Zionism is coming off to reveal the centuries' old face of raw antisemitism. Anne Frank had nothing to do with Israel or Zionism. Her diary while in hiding and her death in a concentration camp have become the best known examples of the suffering Jews endured at the hands of the Nazis. The Diary of a Young Girl has been translated into 70 languages. with 35 million volumes sold worldwide. Millions upon millions of readers, especially school children, have gained their first knowledge of the Holocaust from Anne Frank's diary. That's why the pro-Palestine crowd hate it so much. The diary gives a sympathetic portrayal of a young Jewish girl's tragic fate due to antisemitism. Hamas and its supporters want people to think of Jews as oppressors and that's a difficult label to hang on Anne Frank. Never Again is Now!

The Murdoch tabloids in the U.K. and U.S. picked up this story. According to the New York Post, "The beleaguered yogi said she finally managed to fly home from Thailand on July 9, Kennedy [News] reported." I agree. I believe her hassles probably had more to do with her lack of funds and visa overstay than a small tear on her passport. Anyway- a suggestion if any of you are ever faced with traveling with a damaged passport: notify the airline before you go to the airport. I once had a passport badly damaged two days before I was to return to the U.S. from Thailand. I visited the U.S. Consulate in Bangkok and was given an emergency travel document to use along with the damaged passport. I also went to the Bangkok office of the airline with which I was flying, explained the situation to them and showed them my passport and travel document. After several hours of checking my ticket and documents and communicating with the head office, I was given a letter to show check-in and gate personnel in Bangkok and Hong Kong that said I was allowed to board the flights on which I was booked. I had no delays in gettng back to the U.S.

Huh? I gave links to relevant polls or surveys in two of my previous posts. They indicate Jews support Israel as a homeland. As I wrote earlier, some Jews may not want to live in Israel, but nevertheless support it as the Jewish homeland. One American Jewish friend says he has no desire to visit Israel, much less live there, but he "sleeps better at night knowing Israel exists" if he should ever need a haven from antisemitism. Another Jewish friend says he doesn't need any homeland other than the U.S., but realizes the survival of some Jews elsewhere could depend on a Jewish majority state with the right of return.

Never. But you knew that already. It's not humanely possible to ask the 8.5 million Jews living outside Israel for their opinions on a homeland for Jews. But Jews all over the world have overwhelmingly expressed their support of Israel as such a homeland, even if many are critical of government policies. Jewish support fot Israel is made obviously by statements by mainstream Jewish organizations and religious leaders in counties with Jewish communities. For example: Moshe Sebbag, the chief rabbi of Paris, "told The Times of Israel that 'it seems France has no future for Jews,' and said he advises young French Jews to leave for Israel." France has the world's third-largest Jewish population at 400,000 to 500,000. The admonition to leave France came on the back of the electoral success of a far-left party that is pro-Hamas and widely regarded as antisemitic.. (LINK) public opinion polls, studies and surveys of Jews in various countries that indicate support for Israel as the Jewish homeland. I gave examples from the U.S. in my previous post in this thread. Here's one from the U.K. : "... the vast majority of Jews in Britain regard Israel as the ancestral homeland of the Jewish People, and many have close familial or social ties with Israelis." Committed, concerned and conciliatory: The attitudes of Jews in Britain towards Israel Jews from all over the world continue to emigrate from their countries of birth to Israel. In the 12 months ended in May, 2024, about 37,000 Jews immigrated to Israel. Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics. Yes. I realized that. We have to distinguish between people who identify as ethnic Jews, i.e., they had parents or grandparents who were Jewish; and those who identify with some form of Judaism, although they might not be very religious. Some ethnic Jews have grown up in agnostic or atheist households and have never practiced Judaism as a religion. Ethnic Jews tend to be the ones who are anti-Zionist and oppose the existence of the state of Israel. At the other end of the spectrum there are small groups of ultra-Orthodox Jews who oppose Israel on religious grounds because they believe Israel can't be established before the Messiah appears.

Most of the world's Jews do support Israel as the Jewish homeland, even if they choose not to live there. A sovereign nation with a Jewish majority that gives all Jews the right of return is the only real guarantee against another Holocaust. Nearly all the European Jews killed by the Nazis died because they had nowhere to escape to. The world's nations stood by and allowed six million people to be exterminated. And we don't have to think only in terms of extermination. Antisemitism is on the rise in the U.S. and Europe, with many Jews suffering harassment and even physical attacks. Synagogues have been targeted and Jewish children are no longer safe in public schools. Openly antisemitic candidates have been elected to public office in the U.S., U.K. and other countries. And yes, I mean antisemitic, not just anti-Zionist. That could lead some Jews to move to Israel. Never again is now. There are an estimated 15.7 million Jews in the world. About 7.2 million, or 46%, live in Israel and another 6.3 million, or 40%, live in the U.S. Opinion surveys have shown a wide majority of American Jews support Israel. According to an analysis by Gallup's editor-in-chief (American Jews, Politics and Israel), "95% of Jews have favorable views of Israel." Another survey stated "A large majority of U.S. Jews (82%) say caring about Israel is either “essential” or “important” to what being Jewish means to them." (10 key findings about Jewish Americans). It's very safe to say the majority of Jews support israel as the Jewish homeland.

The most basic and difficult step in achieving a lasting peace is for Hamas, Herzbollah, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. to acknowledge Israel's right to exist as the homeland of the world's Jews

I don't know if the BiB have recently changed their routines, but for decades farang caught up in raids on nightspots were never forced to give a urine sample. They were simply told to pay their tabs and leave. There were a few exceptions if a farang was obviously tweeking or got belligent with police, but those exceptions were few and far between over the years.