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7 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand's minister for tourism and sports, multi billionaire Pipat Ratchakitprakarn

I wonder how he get to be a multi billionare. Clearly not by using the brain.

Good that they start to ease the restrictions? Well I not know. In my mind this could only be understand in one of two ways and that is that the gouverment know or at least strongly believe that there is a lot of people in the country that have the virus, but to say that would be the same as to say, "we have done to few tests to keep the virus under control". The other possibility that I can see to not open up totally is that it have nothing to do with the virus.

8 minutes ago, farang51 said:

I much prefer Norway, Sweden or Finland, Denmark doesn't seem all that. The food in Denmark is very poor, it's very cold and dark, very high taxes, not my kind of place. Plus if you want to take a long-haul flight you have to go to another country. These little places are inconvenient.

Just for your information. Kastrup, the airport in Copenhagen, Denmark, is the biggest and most international airport among the four country you mention.

19 minutes ago, Yahooka said:

Norway do indeed record Covid-19 deaths in retirement homes as well .The total number of deaths so far is 202.

Sorry, I could only reffer to a Swedish newspaer where the Norweigan FHI-manager Camilla Stoltenberg said"Maybe we have had more death if we had included the retirrement homes in the statistics".

6 hours ago, xylophone said:

  6 hours ago, RobbyXNorway said:

Norway vs Sweeden. Norway has less deaths due to more stringent quarantine and lockdown. But the Sweedish argument is that it is just a delay in numbers because once you HAVE TO open up then the virus will take its toll.

I am not so sure about your first sentence, "Norway has less deaths due to more stringent quarantine and lockdown". One thing that was a part of the Swedish thinking was that all can get the virus and pass it on even if they them self not be sick. So what will happen if we do a total lockdown? Porbably two things as also people working in the hospitals have children. In a totally lockdown; 1. Many working in hospitals have to stay home to take care of their children and then the care on hospital will suffer 2. If they dont stay home the grandparents have to take care of the children and many of those are in a risk group. That was why Sweden let the kindergarden and elementary schools still be open.

Then why does Sweden have reported so much more dead people? First of all, Sweden have during the last ten years mounted down the care of eldery (the gouvernment itself admitt that). Secondly, mSweden and Norway are not in the same phase of the pandemic. Third, Sweden report everyone who dies of Covid-19, whilst Norway only report those who die of Covid-19 in hospital.    

11 hours ago, hotelbri said:

Died WITH not of.... big difference

Semantically, of course, you are right, but now the semantics was not what the discussion was about and then your answer only indicates ignorance. If we look at, for example, the EU, the only area I can say for sure, but it would surprise me a lot if reporting differs significantly in other areas.

When a doctor writes a death report, the doctor must state one and only one cause of death. In the underlying text, several other disease states can be cited, but the decisive cause of death can only be cited as one. In cases where the doctor reported Covid-19 as the cause of death (we must be exact, covid 19 has not been stated as the cause of death, but the injuries sustained as a result of Covid-19, just as in the death statistics there is no one who died, for example of, car accident or smoking, but because of the injuries that occurred as a result of a car accident or smoking. In short, if we are to adhere to the topic and not to semantics, the reported cases have been reported as dead of Covid-19, not with Covid-19.

Details on a Covid-19 vaccine soon, Anutin promises

And this morning I read that an English expert said that it will take at least until next year  before we have a vaccine. Who should we believe? Mr Anutin "Bigmouth" or the expert?

And a couple of days ago City Hall of Pattaya did exaxtly the same and there was hundreds of thais waiting to get food. Police come and did what, prosecuting the head of City Hall. No no, they had the hungry people to leave and without food. That is how the law works in a "democrazy" where a military regim have the power (but no brains). Do they ever think of when people will say enough is enough? Pack your bag and get ready to board your submarine MR PM.  

So, now we are waiting for Pattaya City Hall to be charged for the mess they started the other day by announcement of giving away food. Will that happen? No, of course not.

Oh yes, I remember when TAT announce about this about a month ago, saying that they will have to change it all and send people to China to learn about hygiene. Only good thing in this is the certificate. It can help us to avoid those places.

16 hours ago, rvaviator said:

I wonder what the sample size was in that report and from what part of China it was taken. 

I not know if it is true, but what I have heard the thai gouvernment collected all there amulettes and then went to buy 1000 chinese lucky cakes and in one of those they find it.

15 hours ago, paulikens said:

more people die from flu every year and most people dont get the vaccine for that. so what does having a vaccine for it make any difference to travel. screening machines at airports makes more sense

Here we go again. How smart is it to compare what a novel virus has done in less than four month with what a known virus do in a year? How smart is it to neglect the worlds reaction? How smart is it to neglect that the world economy allready before Cov-19 was going down and now are close to a depression? What fortune teller do you use? About the screening, it was used also when Sars started and most researchers have concluded that it has zero to very little effect. 

17 hours ago, tropo said:

What Europeans think of Thailand is beside the point. Europe is in the throws of a total economic collapse and the viral outbreak is yet to peak as the UK is fast catching up with Spain, France and Italy. Travelling Europeans to anywhere will be a rarity for years to come.

 

Thailand can thank the lucky stars they have China to fall back on.

You are probably right in your last sentence because Thailand have never and will never be able to stand on its own feets. But then again, who was it that makes Thailand to fall back this time? Yes, the Chines.

1 hour ago, Eibot said:

10 000 people over the last 4 months could be possible. Even if it was, it would be unlikely the governments can hide this on Social Media, plus we would all experience a major flu like wave moving around.

 

There is no evidence to support any of this, thus making the scenario you describe unlikely. 

 

The Rnaught is lower in warmer countries.

It is very easy and it is been done all the time. For instance France, Italy, Spain, Norway, USA, just to mention some. Only report those who dies of Covid at hospitals. Not those who dies at home or at retirement home and similar places.

3 hours ago, offset said:

Maybe the lockdown is the reason for so many few deaths also Thai hospitals have been trying to fight the virus in the sick people not like other countries that have only just started to do this

Tell the people in for instance France, Spain, Italy or New York, that lockdown works fine, they should now as they started with lockdown even before Thailand admit any death of Corona. And this that other countries just have started to fight the virus, what story book you get that from?

On 4/18/2020 at 5:33 AM, Antonymous said:

Sophon said the mortality statistics showed male patients have a four times higher risk of death from Covid-19 as 2.7 per cent of deceased patients are males while only 0.7 per cent are females.”

There is not any absolute answer on that question jet, but one reason may be that men have more so-called ace-2 receptors, which are the virus's path into the body. Also smokers get more ace-2 receptors than non-smokers.

You could be fined up to 10 000 baht after a month according to an article in the news we could not say, the article is from 2017. If you google; "Thailand car red plate how long". You find the article on the first page.

Well, espicially the last six years or so we have seen what that welcome means and as far as I can see, the thai gouvernment has totally missundertood the word welcome. 

Why should a dead body not be able to infect? Why should we use alchogel if virus not could be catched from "dead" things? 

3 hours ago, smudger1951 said:

Yes, everything was ok here until foreigners came in close proximity.

Then you maybe should point your finger at those who invited us, and after we have leave enjoy your life back at the rice field.

He is going to be my doctor from now on!

In the province of Pichit, where I live, many shop owner seem to believe that it is a ban to sell alcohol, but the province is not  in the list. 

6 hours ago, gamesgplayemail said:

so is it complicated to cross the checkpoints to go shopping ?

how can they be so stupid to cut pattaya in 2 parts ? darkside is pattaya also...

so idiots they are bord so idiots they will die, incredible !

Maybe not stupid at all. Maybe just because they know what part the most, or maybe all of those in Pattaya that get infected lived or work. You have to be a little bit smarter before you call anyone an idiot.