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19 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Bullsh*t. You know nothing nor does anyone else here. 

You’ll see at least you might anyway.  Log into VPN and start googling it on other news outlets from other countries.  The information may already be out there.  

11 minutes ago, CGW said:

Good that you have found the time to hang out with us again today ????

 

In what possible way does the new laws benefit you - please share? For me they make no difference whatsoever as I have money in an account that I never touch.

I fail to see how they benefit you.

Well just for one of many things I don’t have to drive 5 hours to Bangkok every year when I renew my extension to pay $50 dollars for that stupid income affidavit.  From now on all I have to do is just show Immigration my bank records for the whole year and it’s all done locally right here where I live.  I’m also saving money by using a Thai bank account I wish I would’ve thought about that before the new income verification procedures.  And those are just a few things that benefit me I’m not gonna go round and round with you about it or argue about it with you.  And I’m not getting sucked into this dialogue again.  But like I said that’s just me everyone’s personal situation is different.  For some maybe it’s not better but for me it’s awesome I’m glad they made the new policies.  Although I can understand why people don’t like the 800K policy.  But I’ve already explained everything in my above posts and I don’t really have to explain myself to you.  

Bottom line you don’t need a law degree to figure out that nothing is going to change regarding the new policies.  He was appointed for the purpose of implementing those policies and to clean up immigration and his transfer as they’re calling it today had nothing to do with his job.  I like the new policies regarding income verification procedures because in my personal situation it works out better for me than it did before.  But that’s just me everyone’s situation is different.  

4 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Why was he de-promoted ?

 

Trust me they DO NOT want anyone to know but I don’t think it’s going to be a secret much longer eventually the whole story will probably come out probably in news outlets outside of Thailand if it has not already, and maybe in Thailand as well if he’s formally charged.  They’re keeping it pretty hush hush right now but last night I had the opportunity to learn a little bit about the story from a reliable US government source not much but enough to know that it’s pretty bad.  There are certain things they can’t discuss but I heard enough and if what little I heard is even half true it’s not good at all.  I can’t write the details of what I was told because of forum rules and because of defamation laws here.  You have to be careful what you say on here especially about government officials.  I spoke to a few other people on the forum in private via email and I’m not the only one who has heard the same thing.  But even what I was told isn’t 100% confirmed as far as I know anyway.  

Huh I have actually watched a few videos from this same lawyer before including this same video last night.  Obviously nothing is going to change anytime soon because his relief of duty had absolutely nothing to do with his job performance or policies.  In fact he was appointed for the purpose of implementing those policies and procedures as well as to clean up immigration.  I’m glad because I don’t want anything to change I like the new policy just the way it is.  

I can understand why you might not like it if you go by the 800K Baht in the bank method that particular rule would kind of suck I guess.  I sure wouldn’t want to have to leave my money just sitting in the bank either at least not because someone told me that I had to anyway.  I can understand why people disagree with that one particular policy.  

But for those of us on monthly pensions the new income verification procedures make things so much easier especially if you don’t live anywhere near Bangkok or Chiangmai because we don’t have to worry about getting the income affidavits once a year anymore and making that long trip to Bangkok before extension renewal time.  Instead from now on I just show them my Thai bank records for the whole year and it’s all done locally where I live.  So next year’s extension should be a lot easier.  Especially when your pension totals about 187,000 Baht a month as mine does.  I’m 21 years retired military and a disabled veteran 100% rated.  So obviously I like the new income verification procedures.  

Apparently a lot of people were hoping this would mean that we’d go back to the drawing board but even I could have told you that isn’t gonna happen and I don’t even have a law degree.  You don’t really need a law degree to figure that out it’s pretty obvious.  Although the attorney did say that some things remain to be seen.  I’ve watched a few of his YouTube videos before and that attorney seems pretty knowledgeable, and that’s gotta be tough for an American attorney to get licensed to practice law in Thailand of all places.  Makes me wonder how many clients he deals with and what type of law he practices but he seems pretty knowledgeable.  Reminds me of that movie Broken Down Palace I think it was about the American criminal lawyer working in Thailand.  

Anyway it appears that this article is actually on to something big after all.  More than I thought at first that’s for sure.  

51 minutes ago, MikeN said:

So, a former coworker in the spook business is gossiping to you about what would be restricted info on something the Thais would be keeping under wraps, for you to gossip about on an Internet forum ? If all that was even one quarter true neither of you should ever have had a security clearance for even low level stuff.

 The alternative of course is that you are just another internet Walter Mitty, BS-ing your ass off.

People talk man, more than you know.  Everyone talks.  Of course she couldn’t tell me everything she just summarized it and didn’t go into all the details as far as sources and methods and other things.  So no I don’t know the whole story but from what little she did tell me it’s pretty damn bad.  Just wait and see if it comes out in the news.  There are ways of talking around certain things that you’re not allowed to talk about.  

And I haven’t “gossiped” at all if I write what I was told then I’d be in violation of Thailand’s defamation laws regarding government officials and probably forum rules as well.  

I was responding to this earlier and at first I thought the whole thing was just BS and just a routine transfer or something to do with politics but man was I wrong.  Obviously I would not discuss sensitive information online from my former coworker even if I knew anything sensitive, but she didn’t tell me anything classified she just gave me the broke down version of the story which A LOT of regular people besides me probably already know.  I never said that I’m the only one who knows about it, but I can say that it sounds a hell of a lot worse than what the circulating rumors are saying.  I assure you that lot of people have heard what I have but it’s still early in the game.  

You’ll see just wait a day or two and I’m sure it’ll at least be all over the foreign news networks online at least from outside of Thailand.  It’s not a secret dude but they are trying to keep it somewhat quiet at least for now anyway but I don’t think that’ll last long.  There’s nothing secret about it overall it’s just a bit hush hush right now and I assure you that I’m not the only person who knows there are probably people on this forum who might know more about it than I.  I never claimed to have secret information about it just a little bit of insider information about it which I’m sure others know about as well. I can’t possibly be the only one who has heard the ugly truth or at least some of it is true at least it’s still not fully assessed yet so no I don’t know everything about it but I know enough more than I wanted to know that’s for sure.  And yes they do collect information on the local government including allied countries but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s all secret.  Stuff like this is unclassified//confidential at best just the way they found out is classified and no obviously she didn’t tell me those details of course not.  

4 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

Keep taking your Meds dude cos you are boring me to death.

If what I was told is even half true and if the story ever gets out I assure you that you will not be bored by it.  It might not come out I don’t know this seems like something that the Thais would want to keep quiet unless he’s actually charged.  If so then you might be reading about it in the news soon and you’re gonna say to yourself “okay maybe that dude wasn’t so crazy after all”.  Just wait and see even if the whole story doesn’t come out people do talk and I’m certain you’ll hear about it at least some of it.  I don’t know all the details but what I was told sounds horrible.  

If you read my earlier posts I thought it was something political or a routine transfer and BOY WAS I WRONG!  You’ll see.  

33 minutes ago, bander said:

Wow, sounds like you know what's going on but are not allowed to write it. I believe TV desktop detectives are on the case already it will be solved during the night for sure.

It might be something that involves children and I don’t think I would want to discuss some of the details I was told by my former coworker even if the local laws allowed me to.  It actually might be a much sadder story than what people think.  I’m not joking either at first I thought it was just a routine transfer or just political issues until I made a phone call earlier tonight.  Turns out it looks like I was wrong after all if you read my posts from a lot earlier you’ll see what I mean, boy was I wrong.  But the good news is even though there’s nothing good about it is that at least it has absolutely nothing to do with his job performance or policies so everything should remain the same for the foreseeable future at least.  

And honestly I don’t know for sure about all the details, the information is reliable and it definitely had nothing to do with his work and he is definitely in trouble but the information I was told is still being assessed.  It’s still pretty early in the game.  Not to mention that my former coworker isn’t allowed to tell me exactly everything she knows because it’s concerning the collection of information and I don’t work with them anymore or have access to their secure networks anymore.  I retired 5 years ago so of course I don’t have all the answers but now I do have a much better idea of what actually happened.  

And of course I’m not allowed to write the details no one is because of forum rules and because of Thailand’s defamation laws regarding government officials!!!

9 minutes ago, madmen said:

Ha ha another friend of a friend of a friend in a high profile career with a hotline that knows what happened. To funny!!!

No actually a former coworker from Japan and there’s nothing funny about it at all if it’s even half true.  

7 minutes ago, bander said:

Wow, sounds like you know what's going on but are not allowed to write it. I believe TV desktop detectives are on the case already it will be solved during the night for sure.

I don’t know 100% but it’s not sounding good if it’s even half true.  

1 hour ago, roo860 said:

Get yaself a few beers, you must be burnt out!!!!


Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

Actually I did and I called an old friend of mine who works at the United States Embassy that I used to work with in Tokyo and just read my post above turns out it might be worse than what the rumors are saying about it.  

14 minutes ago, bander said:

Let me see, what about corruption or bribes?

Oh man it’s much worse than that if what my POC told me is even half true.  It’s got nothing to do with his job I at least know that much.  

52 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

That segment of Thai society is impossible for most Thai's to decipher, let alone farangs.

 

This has been pretty non existent on TV news, which we watch every day, so I would suggest it has nothing to do with the job he was doing, but he must  certainly have  pis**sed off someone important

Read my last post.  I can assure you that the Thai media will stay as far away from this story as possible if everything my point of contact told me is even half true.  If it’s even half true this particular person could potentially be looking at prison.  I’m actually a little disappointed because I really didn’t have a problem with the guy, I actually kind of liked him because the new immigration policies make things easier for me in my personal situation.  But at least it’s not looking like those policies will ever change anytime soon.  Although I didn’t like the way this person treated a few alleged victims a while back besides that I had no problem with the man.  

Okay I just spoke to an old friend of mine who works at the Embassy that I used to work with in Tokyo and I got some more definitive news about the rumors from a friend of mine in Bangkok who works in the Intelligence Community at the United States Embassy who obviously I can’t name.  I still know a few people in those positions because of my old job I’ve only been retired for 5 years and apparently it sounds like he really did step on his you know what pretty hard, in fact he not only stepped on it but he jumped up and down on it multiple times.  In other words it sounds pretty bad for him and it could be worse than just a “transfer” pending an investigation, but even this information is not 100% confirmed.  

What is confirmed is that he was in fact relieved of duty for cause and yes it would be against the rules here to discuss the details for sure based on what I was told by my very reliable source on the phone an hour ago.  Getting relieved for cause basically means that you got yourself in some hot water and that is at the minimum confirmed that he was relieved which is basically like getting fired except in the government getting fired means transferred somewhere else until they figure out what to do with you.  It’s not that much different in the United States Government I’ve seen very similar things happen with US government employees before I retired as far as getting relieved or recalled and transferred somewhere else until they could pull their security clearance.  It was like that in the United States Military as well sometimes depending on how serious of trouble the person was in.  

So that means that at the minimum it’s confirmed that his “transfer” has absolutely nothing to do with his job performance or immigration meaning that it’s highly unlikely that any new immigration policies will ever change anytime soon or ever regardless of who replaces him.  And honestly I’m glad because I like the current immigration rules just fine the way they are, I have a great system prepared now and I would not want the rules to change.  

Oh and by the way there maybe A LOT MORE to it then what the current rumors circulating around are saying, let’s just say some pretty damn serious accusations against a particular “person” who’s name shall not be mentioned because of the rules about what you’re allowed to say about certain people.  I have not mentioned any names and the information is reliable it might not be totally true what I was told but he was most definitely transferred because he got in trouble that information is at least definitive.  So yeah it’s definitely way beyond political.  Man if only I could discuss the details of what I was told by a reliable source it would surprise a lot of people, I’m not surprised by anything anymore because I’ve pretty much seen it all.  

14 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

Ask your wife. If it can't be talked about openly on here, what d'you think it's about? 

Yes thank you I understand defamation laws in Thailand regarding government officials lol.  I’m not new here but thanks for your input anyway.  

Oh and before I go bottom line he was never going to be in that job forever they routinely get transferred to their next assignments regardless of why he was transferred.  He’s not the first Immigration Chief and I assure you that his replacement will not be the last one either.  So everyone ought to relax about it.  

I’m done this is like a few hours of my life that I’ll never get back in this discussion.  

17 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

You're hammering out your opinions so hard and fast here that you've completely failed to stop and listen to what people have been explaining about this very non standard transfer. Perhaps ask your wife, rather than telling her what you think is going on. 

It’s not an opinion he was transferred and everyone is speculating why and listening to rumors.  That’s what I’ve been “hammering”.  

6 minutes ago, CGW said:

Read the "link", it leaves you in little doubt what the reason is, its beyond "political" - unfortunately such matters are not discussable here, or any where in Thailand for that matter! be so much easier if this was a "free" society and would stop the endless speculation if it was 

You are referring to the rumors that would be considered defamation if discussed on here I know I’ve read a lot of rumors there’s a lot of talk about why but still it’s the rumor mill and you know what I’m wasting my time right now.  

4 minutes ago, fforest1 said:

Actually you dont know jack about why he was transferred and neither does any one else...

 

Would it not be great if he was let go because they have big plans to loosen immigration policy...  

YES EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS WHOLE TIME NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE EVERYONE IS JUST SPECULATING!  More than likely it’s political as usual but that’s obvious no one really knows the details.  I highly doubt that they’re going to loosen immigration policy but it would be nice for some people who can afford to live here but make less money than required.  But luckily I make way more than enough so it doesn’t concern me.  Man I forgot how I got sucked into this entire thread and discussion.  

4 minutes ago, fforest1 said:

they’re not about to change it again when they are still in the middle of adjusting to the current changes.  

 

LOL......Dont make me laugh....They have been constantly changing immigration rule for a few years now.....So why would they care about slowing down now?.....

 

There have been many bad changes to immigration rules.....The sooner things change the better....

I’m only referring to marriage and retirement visas and extensions.  I couldn’t careless about all the others and all the tourist visa limits and all of that.  That stuff doesn’t concern me I’m only referring to the current police orders regarding the marriage and retirement extensions which was just updated this year for the first time since 2014.  

44 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

You couldn't be more wrong. 

Okay then why am I wrong?  Why is it such a big deal you?  I’m about to log off here I’ve got things to do and I got sucked into this thread.  

15 minutes ago, tingtongtourist said:

 

LoL yeah pretty much 

3 minutes ago, CGW said:

You still haven't taken the trouble to look into the links in this thread have you? your harping as if you know what you are talking about, most who looked further into this news yesterday know that this had zilch to do with immigration, yet all those who cannot legally qualify are desperately hoping for change in recent rules - forget it! - your dreaming.....

Actually what you just said was one of my points I agree it has nothing to do with immigration that’s what I’ve been saying all long, his transfer was either routine or probably political more than likely but no it has absolutely nothing to do with immigration I know I get it.  I also agree that the people who cannot legally qualify for a long stay visa are desperately hoping for change which ain’t gonna happen and indeed I hope it never does because I happen to like the current immigration rules it works out great for me but I do legally qualify for my visa so of course I’m happy and don’t want anything to change.  

Don’t get hostile with me when I’m agreeing with you.  Of course I know that his transfer had nothing to do with immigration I knew that from the beginning it’s more than likely political in nature.  I literally agreed with you in my post that you are replying to before you even replied.