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6 minutes ago, Lovethailandelite said:
Are you stupid to think this has just been put out on a whim without the UK speaking with Thailand? The requirements are there on the government website. I have no idea what other information you need? It's easy enough to understand. Money needs to come into a Thai bank account. That's it.
Stupid no, intelligent yes, along with many others who, understand things much better than yourself perhaps and would rather address these issue then just attempting to troll and insult another TV member
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2 minutes ago, gintis0604 said:Time to leave Thailand and all stupidity here.
Bye bye then if you think following the laws of the land are stupid.
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4 minutes ago, Lovethailandelite said:It all states quite clearly what will be required on the UK Government website what will be required after 1st January 2019 when no more letters are issued. The money MUST then be in a Thai bank account either 800k lump sum or 65k a month income proved by a letter from your THAI BANK. The money MUST come into Thailand
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/british-embassy-bangkok-to-stop-certification-of-income-lettersWell you just toddle of to any Thai immigration office and tell them what they should be accepting as proof of available funds for an extension because that is what the British Embassy said !!! Should work wonders and they just might remind you that it is Thai immigration that sets the rules not the BE ???? As I and Smedly keep telling everyone it requires definitive information from the Thai authorities as to whether the current requirements are still applicable or whether there has been some update to those requirements. that we need to be aware of. If not then it is the BE making the decision.
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Just now, smedly said:
The bank knows were it came from and can confirm this in a letter for immigration - not an issue
Only issue I see is that some people don't transfer every month - I do 2x transfers a year but I also have a running balance in excess of 800k baht for most of the year which I may not need now
Like I keep saying - we now need clarification from Thai immigration as to what then need for annual income proof
Exactly as I said yesterday Smedly, and as far as we are currently aware, there is not any requirment yet for the source of income to be from ones home country. So any deposit into a Thai bank account including Transferwise or the like should in theory be ok. But as we all know , this will require further definitive confirmation from Thai authorities as that will open up a can of bigger worms.
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Just to cheer everybody up it's just fake news.
The French hacked the BE computer system and sent the spoof email out to those Brits who registered with them in retaliation for the fact the Brits are exiting the EU and the French can't ????
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7 minutes ago, Psimbo said:
Does anyone know what the Embassy actually DOES do- seems to be the sum total of sod all to me.
it appears that of late they are into property investment and sales mainly ????
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9 minutes ago, phutoie2 said:
For many years I have used the embassy income letter and savings in the bank (BKB) for retirement extensions. Will my Imm office accept the annual P60 and pension forecast plus savings?. I cannot raise 800K Baht, so looks like a switch to a marriage extension. Yikes.
And what is the problem with an extension based on marriage, surely the way to go if you are married? If necessary you can even get a WP .
As a side issue it is possibly a more stable, higher quality of person in the eyes of the Thais then Farangs on a retirement visa/extension just acting as if they are single ?
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4 minutes ago, Fred31 said:
yep, a buch of layabouts, with no advocacy for British people -- why don't they protest?
And the numbers of British people actually working in the BKK Embassy (as opposed to foreign, non British), are diminishing every year
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16 minutes ago, baansgr said:The writing is on the wall in Thailand for expats. PI can get a 10 year visa with no passing go or any other crap, if you are over 37 years old can get a lifetime retirement visa....this place is starting to get worrying
And if it gets rid of those scammers that are bucking the system, using dodgy agents to fix their extensions or just telling downright lies to facilitate extensions then my view is damn good job too and clear off to PL ASAP. Some of us who have been here years legitimately are sick to the back teeth of being tarred with the same brush as the scammers/system buckers.
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25 minutes ago, theoldgit said:
That may cause a problem to the increasing number of us, including me, who now use Transfer Wise to transfer funds from overseas.
Maybe not as income can be from any source, anywhere. Deposits/transfers into your bank account should be considered income but of course would require definitive clarification
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46 minutes ago, pagallim said:No, what Immigration are saying is that income verification letters issued by an Embassy are no longer acceptable. My understanding is that Immigration now require proof of either 4/800,000 baht on deposit for the required period, or minimum 40/65,000 baht/month being credited to a Thai account, neither of which any Embassy could provide verification for, only your bank could do that. My question would be, for what period would you have to show the monthly credit for, i.e. the previous 12 months, or as in the case of the lump sum, 3 months.
We do not know what Thai immigration are saying new if anything. All we know is what was in the email provided by the British Embassy. Until we have verification from the Thai authorities of exactly what is being asked/required differently everything else is conjecture
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52 minutes ago, Joe Mcseismic said:
The retirement visa allows you to stay 365 days a year as long as you do 90 day reporting. For what possible reason would they shorten this time period? It's called a retirement visa for a reason.
Sounds like you're one of the "skint" and your post is just a rather weak retort, or, spiteful wishful thinking.
Perhaps you are one of the retired with failing eyesight ? I said renewal of retirement extension. Is it you could not read properly or just you don't undertsand the difference ?
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Just now, 50BahtLeo said:
Writing on the wall for skint farangs now. Other embassies to surely follow. You'd have to think the 'soft touch' Non-O's will then be targeted. Game over for anyone without the cash.
And if or when they introduce the minimum annual residency period in order to continue to qualify for a retirement extension it will be game over for many non skint farangs
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8 minutes ago, Pilotman said:Don't believe it.
So a document provided at the request of a British Citizen, by the British Embassy to that British Citizen is no longer going to be provided as the Thai authorities said they must not provide it? That is a strange thing that one sovereign state can dictate to another sovereign state what it can, or can not issue, to a national of it's own country. That's the claim by the British Embassy.
Perhaps that was the excuse.
Now if the British Embassy had been advised by the Thai authorities that the letter confirming income , as issued by the British Embassy, was no longer acceptable to the Thai authorities, then I could believe that. Given that, then the British Embassy has then consequently decided to no longer issue same. So hence they should come clean and admit upon the actual basis that the British Embassy has come to that decision. It was not a Thai instruction but solely a British decision based on the foregoing.
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5 minutes ago, Mickmouse1 said:
Funds must be on regular basis if not the lump sum.Of course they will check your annual statements when you go for renewal.
Best solution move to Laos or Cambodia. If you love LOS so much you can still live across the border.
Please reference the Thai requirement that requires funds to be on a regular basis
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Just now, Mickmouse1 said:
What do you want them to do? The only option is to levy a few hundred quids charge for such a service.
Probably cost far more than that given most of their work is now outsourced to Mumbai anyway.
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1 minute ago, CharlieH said:
Personal circumstances will vary, but for me it was only 4 months statements from Kasikorn, that was totalled then ÷ 4 = av.per month ×12 to give annual income. Letter produced.charged £50+
Dependent on how many months statements the Thai IO asks for I see no difference except no letter writing to Embassy and no £50+ payment.!
Or am I missing something ?(based on above circumstances)
You mean you provided the above to the British Embassy to get the confirmation of income letter ? I always used UK pension statements as I thought that was needed as proof of income outside of Thailand. Back to my post 22 then my friendly IO is saying just show me your Thai bank book next ( of course it will show credits from foreign transfers). So that being the case you are right and we save money
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21 minutes ago, CharlieH said:
Be interesting to see how this gets interpreted and implemented by the numerous offices around the Kingdom. As we all know, rarely any consistency.
I would suggest to talk to your local office for what they want.????
done that already in post 22. no one corroborated it yet though
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Just now, giddyup said:Let's face it, the letter of income, or signing an statutory declaration, as is the case with the Aussie embassy, in a lot of cases is a scam, and taking advantage of a loophole which allows those with insufficient funds or income to remain in Thailand.
I see that but so are many of the so called visa agents running scams , and that is not going to stop, rather than increase their business
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21 minutes ago, Joe Mcseismic said:
When you get the letter from the bank, the bank also supplies a certified copy of every page in your bank book. At least they do for the seasoned 800K route.
so what is the point of the letter then if they also have the real bank book pages as proof I wonder ?
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2 minutes ago, Pilotman said:
If you are not transferring money from the UK to live, then how do the idiots think that you are financing yourself. Income doesn't need to be checked by the Embassy. beyond ensuring that the supporting docs are genuine. Its not the job of the Embassy to do the work of the Thai Authorities for them, its to support their Citizens.
perhaps they may think you are getting income thro working in Thailand illegally ?
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Well a contrary argument could be that a retired person is probably on their own, predominantly living a Farang lifestyle in Thailand. A person married to a Thai, even with an extended family, could be benefiting from a Wife's income and even benefiting from Brothers and Sisters contributions dependant upon lifestyle. Not everybody marries into a non working lazy Thai family you know, no more than in Farangland land that the man is the sole breadwinner.
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2 minutes ago, Joe Mcseismic said:
Maybe Thai banks can issue official letters confirming that a minimum of 65,000 Bt each month has been deposited in your account with them. This will be the same kind of letters that the bank issues for the seasoned 800K.
even easier if like my previous post 22. But maybe they will no longer accept letters ( due to the dodgy scams) rather want to see actual bank books to witness the history of all credits ?
British Embassy Bangkok to Stop Certification of Income Letters
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
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Go back to the earlier comments on this thread. Said already and responded to by others