SEtonal

21 minutes ago, kuma said:

So you are suggesting that when visiting the IO you must specify you are there to do:

1. 90 day report

2. Confirmation of 800k bank balance

And that in stating such you are given two queue tickets, one to go get your 90 day report complete, and then go to a second queue (and a different officer) to show your updated bank book and get confirmation you met the "800k, 90 day after visa issuance requirement"?

Are there any persons here that can confirm they completed this process? At immigration, I assumed: 1. One office would be responsible for both reporting conditions

2. The front desk that issues queue tickets would have scanned my passport, understood it was my first 90 day, and given me the appropriate queue tickets.

Thanks in advance for responding.

You need to open your passport and find the paper telling you the date to report back to Jomtien Immigration with a bank book.  No one has done a bank book report from Jomtien yet because the earliest report date is in June and Tuesday June 4 will be the first day the Immigration Office is open this month.

Vientiane, Laos is now asking for a bank statement for Non-Imm O visas to visit Thai family.

• A bank statement (for Multiple-Entry visa, an applicant should show at least 6 months of bank statement with at least 100,000 baht or that equivalent in other currencies)

https://thaivisavientiane.com/

34 minutes ago, Danthai said:

Any others been asked to show money and amount to indicate a trend?

 

I haven't seen any reports from Savannakhet, but on a Facebook forum someone reported being asked for a bank statement in Vientiane.  Despite not having a bank statement, he still received a Non-Imm O visa as the parent of a Thai child.  He was told next time - no bank statement, no visa.

From the Vientiane appointment website for Non-Immigrant O Visa to stay with Thai family: 

Quote

• A bank statement (for Multiple-Entry visa, an applicant should show at least 6 months of bank statement with at least 100,000 baht or that equivalent in other currencies) 

 

https://thaivisavientiane.com/

33 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

I report to immigration in Jomtien, I have done for the last 8 years of living here, I did my 90 days last month and report again in August, I have the piece of paper in my passport that says I need to report my address again on such & such a date in August, how am I going to be arrested ??

OP's friend is in Bangkok and reports to Chaeng Wattana not Jomtien.  Different rules. Individual Immigration Offices are allowed to set their own policies. 

In Jomtien, those on extension of stay do not have to fill out a new TM30 when returning home from travel.  However, short-stay visitors do.   The guy in the video owns a condo in Pattaya.  When he went to Immigration to extend his tourist visa, he was fined 1600 baht because he had not filed a TM30 on himself when he entered the country.  

Jomtien Chonburi TM30 information in the link:

8 minutes ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

The 65k does not need to come from a pension. It just needs to come from abroad. If I went that route, I would use the same savings pool that I use for the 800k.

Individual Immigration Offices can are allowed to ask for extra documentation to support an extension.  Some Offices are going to ask for a pension or an Embassy Letter in addition to 12 monthly deposits of 65k.  Based on reports, Chiang Mai seems headed in that direction.  Phetchabun Immigration has stated in writing that in 2020, for extension renewals,  the 12 monthly deposits of 65k will only be accepted along with both an Embassy Letter and a pension. 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1083530-the-latest-info-on-retirement-visas-from-immigrations/

58 minutes ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

So far, only two immigration offices are checking 90 days after extension issued. Jomtien is one of them. They are in the minority, though.

Let's hope that eventually, all offices decide to check at the next extension application.

This is a great incentive to switch from the 800k method to the 65k per month method. Just cannot figure out what immigration are trying to achieve here, by only stipulating that money can't be withdrawn when using the 800k method.

There have been first hand reports from three Offices that require reporting back in 90 days with an updated bank book after receiving a 800k retirement extension: Jomtien, Ratchaburi, and Pathumthani. 

It is my opinion that the 90-day bank book check is a courtesy to help people remember to keep a minimum balance in their account and Immigration won't bother with it in a couple of years after everyone has done extensions under the new rules.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1102763-800k-for-3-months-after-application/?tab=comments#comment-14180001

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1100872-pathumthani-retiremeng-extension

Jomtien is showing leniency this year.  The man who signs all the extensions of stay at Jomtien/Chonburi Immigration was interviewed and said that two months of deposits are enough for first time applicants.
 

Quote

Regarding retirement extensions, Khun Pichai said that first time applicants must be able to show at least two months of income coming from overseas or traceable to a taxable source in Thailand. 

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1092651-explainer-here’s-what-is-required-by-chonburi-immigration-for-tm30-and-retirement-extensions/

I had no idea that Thai Embassies and Consulates wanted to see a bank statement from anywhere in world as proof of 20k baht until I started reading recent posts saying that the Savannakhet Consulate was refusing tourist visas to those without a bank statement.   

57 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

13K, I need to get into this agent business, it's money for old rope. The process is so easy and straight forward that it is a joke for anyone to take money to do it for you.  My advice would be to get to Jomtien immigration and get the most up to date information on your actual situation. After that you can make an informed decision regarding your next step. 

13k is a "no money in the bank" extension.

http://www.thaiconsulatela.org/service_visa_detail.aspx?link_id=48

44 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

Any links (official) to your statement?

20 minutes ago, tingtongtourist said:

Do you know about the visa options for Cambodia?

Do they do a multiple entry?

https://www.movetocambodia.com/planning-your-move-to-cambodia/cambodia-visas/

26 minutes ago, MJKT2014 said:

Just supposing I have been doing these extensions many years at CW and was unaware the rules had changed? Will I be given any leeway for letting my 800k balance drop (as I have always done before) the days following my extension? I might not have arranged enough money with no notice until day of application?

CW was only asked to show leniency in 2019.   If the scenario you described occurs, in 2020 the extension renewal will most likely be denied.   If denied, the retirement extension process would have to be started over again from scratch with a new Non-Immigrant O visa.

5 minutes ago, fletchsmile said:

Thanks.

 

The info is from Ministry of Health which is one thing, i.e not immigration. All the noise so far seems to come from the Health Ministry. As Immigration would implement, it's really what they say will count in the end

 

The translation from the Thai is accurate "may be considered" to request approval. I wouldn't like to buy a policy on the strength of that. Very different to saying "will be accepted". Every chance they consider a particular policy and reject it, or may not consider it too ????

Wording and interpretation is everything.  Some people were denied the 10-year OX visa because the requirements were unclear that funds had to be in a Thai bank for a year prior to even submitting the application for the visa.    The denied applicants wound up wasting money on Thai health insurance that had been required for the visa application.

40 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

And no grace period? 16. AUG, not a few days later?

"They told me that I would have a few days lee way and said they would be phoning me if I did not report."

The requirement of "and/or pension certificate" is something I haven't seen before.   I guess they are also checking applicants who chose 65k monthly deposits from abroad or the combination method, not just the lump sum 800k method.

21 minutes ago, carbon007 said:

Is this really true? That thai immigration issues Non-Immigrant O-A visas? Thought it was not possible as have to be issued by a thai embassy?

 

 'You would then need to get a new Non-O visa from your Immigration Office, which is not a problem at some offices but a problem at other offices.'

O-A =/= O

O-A is not O.

Immigration can only issue an O.  Immigration cannot issue an OA.  An OA must be obtained at a Thai Embassy or Consulate in your country of citizenship or permanent residency.

4 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

Hmmmm.  Wondering if there is any sort of embassy letter such as Thailand USA embassies used to give for income method?  If not, any idea what type of documentation they would accept?  I would have several sources, dividend, interest statements, past income values, projected income etc, from my bank and broker.  And my bank Etrade said they would issue a letter saying the estimated amounts are true and factual for the next year(s).   I doubt the Cambodians would understand all of that, but I would be willing to provide it

If under 55, you might get a Cambodian retirement visa just by showing funds in a bank account.  Be careful sharing any banking or financial information in Cambodia.

ER visa extension. The new retirement visa extension is meant for those of retirement age who can show documentation of retirement in their home country (such as a pension or Social Security) and prove that they have the funds to support themselves. ER visa extensions are usually only granted to those who are 55 and up, but some have reported being able to get one at a younger age. Those 55 and up are not usually asked to show evidence of retirement, but those under 55 will be asked. Often, proof of savings is enough.  The criteria for those under 55 have not been defined and varies depending on which agent you use to apply. The ER visa extension cannot be used if the visa holder is employed, but holders of this visa extension do not need to get a work permit. The ER retirement visa extension can be issued for 1, 3, 6, or 12 months.

https://www.movetocambodia.com/planning-your-move-to-cambodia/cambodia-visas/

14 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

Thats not at  all  clear in any way, it mentions "new" O-A and implies extending an O-A, it doesnt make clear ALL NON O visas types or  ALL  extensions of stay for other O type  visas

No, it is not clear at all.  Expect each Immigration Office to interpret the rule differently.