JBChiangRai

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Where appropriate and the meaning isn’t lost

Some of the enlightened already are

Oh yes we could cue: pantomime

My came with a new fangled Nuclear Backup Battery

No I only smoke the anti-EV’ers silly arguments

What are you smoking? I haven’t seen any EV owners here. Afraid of questions.

We have a very weak grid connection, I can't charge more than 2Kw at night, so I choose to charge it during the day at 5.3Kw I commute every 2-3 weeks to Chiang <ai where my daughters go to University, we have a 7.2Kw charging point there but it's not solar. I have only ever charged on one trip at any other public or private CS, obviously that is not solar either. 90% of my charging is from my solar system during the day here in Chiang Rai. I didn't buy EV's or Solar for the greenness they may have, it's purely economic for solar and mostly pleasure for EV, I love the way they drive.

You won't be getting your UK state pension at 65 years old, I think you will find you need to be 66.

I knew there had to be a rational explanation

First service for my MG4 yesterday, less than an hour and free. I told them I would have an MG4 X-Power when they get them. Lady sales manager says it is coming, she didn’t ask for a deposit, in my experience the staff at MG have more product knowledge about banana’s than their own cars.

I charge from solar.

The main cause of that is cake Wedding Cake

A vacuum cleaner for her wedding anniversary?

I prefer to refute them with statistics (eg prevalence of EV fires), where valid points are made, I accept them, you can see what I say about Hydrogen vehicles possibly being superior to BEV's, but H2 is just too little too late. There is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that BEV's are far superior to ICE vehicles, by almost every measure.

Folk like me? Do you mean people with EV's who defend them against the same old nonsensical arguments from the same old luddites who repeat themselves like broken records? It's probably true to say that for the members here who bought EV's, it was an epiphany about how excellent they really are and we like to share our good fortune and help others tread the same path.

In it's exact phrase, Edward Lorenz but in it's meaning it goes back to the 1800's and the German Philosopher Johann Fichte.

Great! So looking at that line on the graph we can expect 91.5% battery SoH after 250,000 km & extrapolating that line, more than 85% SoH at half a million km.

That was caused by an EV Butterfly effect. Fan came on whilst EV battery being charged causing ripples in the fabric of space-time and a typhoon on the other side of the world sank that banana boat. +1 to the Anti EV'ers.

I don't doubt that starting with a clean sheet of paper, Hydrogen can be argued to be a better solution than Batteries...Today. However, battery tech is going to improve, maybe Sodium-ION batteries will win the day, less energy dense than LFP but still workable and Sodium is abundant. One car already with these batteries. Your point 4 about the grid, equally applies to electrolysis of Hydrogen. EV'ers have got used to charging at home, I don't want to waste time going to a fuel station ever again, and whilst there is already one product for making hydrogen at home for your fuel cell car, it is prohibitively expensive and we still then have the same power grid issues. Hydrogen has it's own problems, not least being distribution and for me the major issue is it is too late. BEV has already won this race. If we struggle to make enough batteries then supply & demand will kick in, BEV cars will become expensive and there will be less cars on the road, governments will be happy, but I think any supply issues will be transient. China is already starting to dominate the BEV market. Their cars are high quality, drive well and are typically 2/3 the cost of everyone else. Just today I read that Germany recognises it's BEV cars are currently too expensive to make for it to compete.

Sorry, but the Hindenburg airship was buoyed by Hydrogen. Helium is largely inert and wouldn't have burned.

Converting a petrol car to hydrogen can’t be much more difficult than converting it to LPG or CNG. Every Somchai in Thailand can do it. But why would you want to? EV’s are already the optimum solution with battery technology tipped to improve exponentially.

Indeed, I have had 2 petrol and 1 diesel car converted to LPG in Thailand

Many people think H2 is a better solution than Battery. But I think it is too late now, BEV has already won. Incidentally, there is ample Lithium, we need to scale up battery production.

Sorry, I must’ve missed those warnings at the entrance to central, I’m sure there is a sign there somewhere telling you you’re EV has to be well insured.