Just Weird

On 10/14/2019 at 8:23 AM, baboon said:

On 10/14/2019 at 12:26 AM, Salerno said:

What about the rest of the countries that cancel visas at the border ... should we all have faux outrage about them too?

'Your Honour, my client may well be guilty of murder. But what about the Khamer Rouge? Why aren't they in the dock instead of my client, eh?'

Dear oh dear...

Dear, oh dear, they were.

On 10/14/2019 at 12:17 AM, whitemouse said:

No! These posts are extremely helpful. Tourists need to know that Tai immigration does not honour a visa issued by Thai embassies, this is extraordinary. People need to know this! 

"Tai immigration does not honour a visa issued by Thai embassies..."

Garbage.  A tiny proportion of visitors do not have their visas "honoured".  Just like in UK, US, Europe, Australia and every other country with border checks! 

No genuine tourists to Thailand have problems with IOs at entry points, none.  Unless you can point one out, of course; go on, link to just one.  I won't be holding my breath.

On 10/13/2019 at 11:27 PM, lemonjelly said:

It should be the Thai embassy that should be refusing to issue visas rather than issuing them to people who then get refused by some low level IO with the consequence of being thrown into a cell and wasting money on flights. It’s outrageous

The "low level IOS" you describe are higher level than the clerks in the Embassy

On 10/13/2019 at 10:17 PM, fforest1 said:

WRONG.......If he was issued the visa he should 100% be let in period...I dont care how many visas he has had....

 

If Thailand does not want certain people here then dont issue the visa...

 

To not let some one in with a visa is just criminal....END OF STORY...

No, that is not the "END OF STORY"!  Even when you shout it!

Do you have that same attitude to your own country's IOs, that anyone with a visa should be let in regardless of how they may not be going by the rules?  Sure, you don't, so why apply that standard here?

On 10/13/2019 at 9:54 PM, mngmn said:

Australian authorities seem to think that visiting your partner in their country is an acceptable reason to get an Australian visitors visa.

What's Australia got to do with this?

On 10/13/2019 at 9:48 PM, sweatalot said:

On 10/13/2019 at 9:24 PM, SteveK said:

Someone needs to do this. A few cautionary stories about Thai immigration in some Western papers would help to raise the issue.

Thailand could easily counter this by telling that those people had not the correct visa and were trying to cheat and make clear what a tourist visa is for and wha not.

And Thailand would be spot-on right with that response to that hypothetical situation.

On 10/13/2019 at 9:17 PM, baboon said:

Two things folks can do are spreading the word as widely as possible and spending their money elsewhere. 

Spread the word about what!?  That genuine tourists will never have problems with Thai IOs?  That word doesn't need spreading, experience tells them all that already.

On 10/13/2019 at 9:11 PM, SteveK said:

BUT - in those cases, the (Oz/UK) immigration officials conduct a careful and considered investigation to determine the facts.

...and genuine tourists never have a problem, just like Thailand.  Most of the posters here need to remember that!

On 10/13/2019 at 9:00 PM, baboon said:

To suggest visas are being issued which will quite possibly not be honoured is a conscious decision, is with foundation.  There are two sides to that coin.

I don't care which department is in the wrong. It is shocking either way and shame on anyone defending them.

"...shame on anyone defending them".

What?  Shame on anyone using a Tourist visa and trying to use it to live here illegally!

On 10/13/2019 at 8:56 PM, GeorgeCross said:

 

i dont know about germany but i know what the uk would say "welcome to the UK" because we issue 1, 5 and 10 year MULTIPLE ENTRY TOURIST VISAS

 

i cant imagine why a european might then think getting a MULTIPLE ENTRY TOURIST VISA would then get him rejected in Thailand

 

 

"i cant imagine why a european might then think getting a MULTIPLE ENTRY TOURIST VISA would then get him rejected in Thailand"

There's no reason for that tourist to think that because it doesn't happen to 99.9% of tourists.  The ones with the problems are the tiny minority who come here with issues clearly evident to IOs.

On 10/13/2019 at 7:58 PM, ukrules said:

No, it's not worth it - we need to get the word out on this kind of arbitrary treatment

You mean this kind of "arbitrary treatment" that affects a tiny fraction of 1% of the millions who come here?  Yes, we really need to get the word out about something and nothing!

On 10/13/2019 at 7:27 PM, William Osborne said:

Its absolutely insane that a consulate/embassy can issue a visa and then be refused entry on IOs opinion.....

 

Theyre really gonna <deleted> themselves here regarding euro tourists.....especially guys doing rotational work etc

Why is it "absolutely insane?   A visa is not a guarantee that the holder will be allowed into any country, and that includes yours!

"...and then be refused entry on IOs opinion".

Just as in the rest of the world that is what an IO's job is, to decide if the visa holder is legitimate!

On 10/13/2019 at 6:51 PM, SteveK said:

These reports are becoming almost daily now, something needs to be done about getting it out into the public domain.

What do you want to see in the public domain, that some foreigners, ostensibly living here (got a long-term girlfriend, money in Thai banks, condo leases, for example) but goosing the system by doing it on Tourist visas, are being refused entry and that if they want to live here they should get the correct visa? 

Great idea, sounds like something most people would agree with. It should, at least, stop some of the unjustified whinging that is heard here from people who get caught out with the wrong visas and refuse to admit that they're in the wrong.

On 10/13/2019 at 6:51 PM, SteveK said:

They are telling him to get a non-O when they almost certainly know that he won't qualify for one! Very scummy behaviour.

 

Oh well, that's a few thousand Euros that Thailand won't be getting - do as others say and go somewhere else where you will no doubt be welcomed!

 

These reports are becoming almost daily now, something needs to be done about getting it out into the public domain.

"These reports are becoming almost daily now..."

Even if they were reported almost daily, which they are not, it would amount to how many? Four or five personally reported here, i.e. when it actually happened to them?   Hearsay stories about something that they, or their friend, heard don't count.

On 10/14/2019 at 12:51 PM, ColeBOzbourne said:

I've never owned a cell phone

Really?  How would you contact someone in an emergency or how would they contact you?

3 hours ago, justin case said:

as if that is a valid excuse, except in thailand, to be shot at ?

It wasn't claimed to be a valid excuse, it was suggested that it may have been the reason for the other driver's irritation.

3 hours ago, Reigntax said:

But I'm sure the RTP will still struggle.

Geez...the police are not trying to track the girls car down. 

23 hours ago, The Fat Controller said:

On 10/13/2019 at 12:53 AM, Just Weird said:

So you think that bigamy may be acceptable in Thailand, yes?  Geez...

Not at all, you have completely misunderstood me.

 

I meant the Thai person should, if they are in contact with their ex, find out if the person in South America can file for divorce, for example by abandonment, without the Thai having to be present.

 

I know a Thai can be granted a divorce for a Thai marriage that way after a period of time, but as we do not know which South American country we are talking about, nobody can investigate a solution for the OP.

The question that I responded to and the only question that the OP asked was, "Is a Thai person legally allowed to get married in Thailand when they are legally still married overseas (from a South American country) in which they haven't divorced there yet?"

There is no grey area, that cannot be done legally in Thailand, it would be bigamy. 

On 10/13/2019 at 8:14 AM, possum1931 said:

On 10/13/2019 at 12:08 AM, Just Weird said:

Yes, I really do not know what new things have regularly come up that has made being in Thailand unpleasant.   As someone with over 20,000 posts perhaps you can enlighten me, specifically.   And that would be NEW things, plural, that have appeared regularly.

I am not wasting my time going through things that the majority of members are well aware of, just keep logging on to Thaivisa and maybe things will sink in, and I am aware that the TM situation is not new and has only recently been enforced.

Another thing, I am aware of your opinions and you are entitled to them, but you are about the last poster I want to have a debate with.

"I am not wasting my time going through things that the majority of members are well aware of..."

I was pretty sure that you wouldn't be able to come up with anything.  Q.E.D.

"...just keep logging on to Thaivisa and maybe things will sink in..."

I do just that and the amount of nonsense and inaccurate Thai-bashing that sinks into some member's minds never fails to amaze me. 

"Another thing, I am aware of your opinions and you are entitled to them, but you are about the last poster I want to have a debate with".

That's ironic considering you responded to someone you don't want interaction with!

On 10/13/2019 at 1:52 AM, ta158 said:

On 10/13/2019 at 1:02 AM, Just Weird said:

Why?...because the vast majority of posters here love to imply that it is just a Thai thing.  Some people just like a bit of balance.

Not Majority though.

Yes, the majority of comments here are anti-Thai.

5 hours ago, ta158 said:

I knew someone would mention UK or London, as someone always does... how come Brits always have to start mentioning London or UK in crime news from other countries?

Why?...because the vast majority of posters here love to imply that it is just a Thai thing.  Some people just like a bit of balance.

On 10/11/2019 at 9:19 PM, bbi1 said:

Is a Thai person legally allowed to get married in Thailand when they are legally still married overseas

No. 

2 hours ago, The Fat Controller said:

All you can do is find the rules applicable to that South American country.

 

If the "Thai person" is still in touch with their spouse, ask them !

So you think that bigamy may be acceptable in Thailand, yes?  Geez...

2 minutes ago, SteveK said:

5 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

What percentage of people do you seriously think that applies to, i.e. what %age have been refused entry?

A tiny percentage

Exactly.

5 minutes ago, SteveK said:

It's relevant because not only are the immigration requirements deterring long stay visitors and ex-pats, but making life difficult for companies who want to do business here. Some companies will just decide that it's too much hassle and go elsewhere, taking their money and jobs with them, yet another own-goal for the "Land of Smiles".

It may be irrelevant to you but it is not irrelevant to my question directed at the poster who brought it up.

"Some companies will just decide that it's too much hassle and go elsewhere, taking their money and jobs with them, yet another own-goal for the "Land of Smiles".

Ok, that's your opinion but it's not a fact, unless you can point to a company (just one would do) that has made that decision.