Chomper Higgot

But now the UK has decided to permit more carcinogens and poisons in UK food production. No wonder public opinion is moving against BREXIT.

Banning a few carcinogens and poisons from food production seems sensible. Though perhaps not in the best interest of profits at cost of people's health.

But this is a UK thread and the UK Government have recently used 'BREXIT Freedoms' to permit the use of carcinogens in UK food production.

But, erm, this isn't a thread about the US? Or had you not noticed. Oh you had noticed, but you didn't like me pointing out that BREXIT freedoms include allowing carcinogens and other poisons in UK food production. So you went into but but but whatabout mode.

But but but... whatabout Germany? We should have a thread on that.

Have another go. Which of Sunak's fiver pledges where working well? How has 'the left' derailed the migrant boat situation? Your claims, so shouldn't be too difficult for you to explain.

I'm not complaining, I'm simply pointing out the fallacy that post BREXIT UK is somehow independent of foreign control. Oh... it was you who was making such a plainly false claim:

Which ones were working well? How has 'The Left' derailed the migrant boat situation, 'The Left' aren't in government and have no control over policies.

Yep, the UK can now have carcinogens and other poisons in the nations food production.

Yes, it puts Washington in a remarkably strong position when dealing with the UK Government.

Yep , those things the political parties contesting the next election are using to decide on what policies they shall put in their manifestos.

Well that and Washington giving London direct instructions on the limits of Westminster's policies in Northern Ireland.

Perhaps I asked because I think BREXIT zealots made a decision that was clearly harmful to UK Science and which has now had to be reversed. Refer 'Project Fear'. https://royalsociety.org/-/media/policy/Publications/2019/01-25-19-consultation-response-commons-inquiry-science-innovation-preparations-no-deal.pdf

Let's take a look at your question once more: So you want me to predict the future, you want a date. perhaps a time of day. as you yourself say 'A bit of lefty foresight', Maybe you should ask questions that don't rely on time travel. Alternatively you could challenge my point of view by addressing the points I have made.

I think I knew that Vinny.

Any that amplify Trump’s attempts to avoid Justice without explaining the actual likelihood of his attempts failing. Examples being attempts to delay trials, replace judges etc. Trump keeps losing, but the media play up ‘he might win’ with his spurious and weak court filings, without explaining how unlikely a Trump win is.

Meanwhile scaremongering that he might drives online traffic to media outlets struggling for revenue.

I feel it beyond my responsibility to explain public opinion research to you.

Nevertheless, an example of an EU benefit and a reversal of Government policy. To the sound of silence from the ERG and other BREXIT zealots. And of course if it were always such a good scheme, why leave HORIZON in the first place?

Oh no, he’s going to get away with it all.

You seem to have forgotten it’s you who last had the crystal ball. Here’s a sign though. Recent moves by the UK Government towards the EU, starting with the Windsor Agreement and lately rejoining the EU Horizon project (at cost of £Billions) have had near zero response from the ERG and other BREXIT zealots. BREXIT has passed its zenith.

When did I agree BREXIT isn’t a failure? Oh, you are dreaming up points of view on my behalf again. BREXIT is a clear failure, and continues to damage the UK, the UK economy and the position of the UK on the world political and diplomatic stage. Refer examples given in this thread.

Who said there was? Don’t fret, if public opinion hasn’t moved against BREXIT you’ve nothing to worry about.

Refer OP at top of thread.

Then obviously nothing for BREXITEERS and those hoping for a Tory victory at the next election to worry about. You are correct, Starmer will not seek to rejoin in the next electoral cycle, who ever said he would. The UK will rejoin the EU when there is cross party agreement, which will follow public opinion. The EU will not engage in rejoin discussion with the UK until the Tory Party ride itself of the xenophobic nationalist zealots that have been in control since the BREXIT vote. Starmer will negotiate a better BREXIT deal and re-demonstrate the benefits of the EU. The rest will follow with Public Opinion.