misterjames

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The researchers found that antibody responses peaked roughly two to three months after infection.

For a start that post has nothing to do with Sinovac, secondly if it takes 3 months (90 days) for the antibody response to peak and Sinovac antibodies levels decline by 50% every 40 days.

It doesn't take a maths phd to realise the antibody levels of a person injected with Sinovac would be zero:D

11 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Well it wouldn't affect me it's just game like many other sports.

To follow football in a fanatical way is something I don't understand.

I agree with you I'm not into football either but my point is don't believe everything you read a lot of this stuff is designed to cause division in the west and it's not just football.

It's called cyber warfare.

"They create favourable comments or articles on popular Chinese social media networks that are intended to derail discussions that are unhelpful to the Communist Party, they promote narratives that serve the government's interests, and they write disparaging comments and misinformation about political opponents and critics of the Chinese government, both domestic and abroad."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

9 minutes ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

It was in the article we are discussing here, the one you put all your faith in 

Via instagram? You must be joking, surely??:D

1 minute ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

Give me a minute, I’m looking from a quote from an interview with an actress that confirmed this 

That would not be considered a credible source.

2 minutes ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

Gladly

 

”Now there going to mix and match vaccines.  WHO strongly recommends against this.”

 

this is completely false. What the WHO actually said was:

 

“The World Health Organization's chief scientist has advised individualsagainst mixing and matching COVID-19 vaccines from different manufacturers, saying such decisions should be left to public health authorities”

 

Do you understand?

I see no source for your claims regarding the Sinovac vaccine plateau in your reply.

Just now, FridgeMagnet1 said:

All vaccines work like this, antibodies drop quickly then plateau 

If you are going to claim that then you need to link to a source regarding the Sinovac plateau.

3 minutes ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

why are you desperately posting misinformation about Sinovac all over this forum? 

You have just accused another member of posting misinformation so please post a source to your claims? 

2 minutes ago, FridgeMagnet1 said:

But that’s not what happens
 

The biggest drop in immunity with all vaccines is in the first few months after completion, but then it plateaus.

at 20%? do you have a source for this?

13 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

Why are you talking about China when the subject is ENG fans racist hooliganism?

Because it's been proven that a vast majority the comments of racism came from overseas (possibly Chinese trolls) not England fans! 

It's clear that posts like this are designed to cause anti-western sentiment on this forum.

A lot of people, including western governments know what is going on.

Listed vpn services which IP's listed have been known used for cyber information warfare

24 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

"This is not a conspiracy the documents are out there as sky news reports"

 

It's not a conspiracy because it comes from Rupert Murdoch?

 

No it's not a conspiracy because the Chinese government actually submitted those documents to the United Nations.

That is a fact. Nice try though

15 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

It wasn't Chinese trolls who beat mob handed Italy supporters in the streets.

I see two people being mildly kicked in that video.

What about the millions of uyghurs in xinjiang imprisoned beaten and enslaved? 

Why don't you talk about that? I wonder...

On 7/13/2021 at 8:28 AM, Kwasaki said:

There is racism all around the world the UK is one the countries where it can be protected about and bring it to people's attention.

It's our Chinese friends again trying to cause unrest again.

It's a well known CCP tactic they use our sense of fair play to try to silence us regarding all kinds of matters.

Wake up guys it's going on here on the forum too:

Google wumao

"Sanjay Bhandari, chair of Kick It Out, the campaign group against racism in football, says that data from the last two seasons of football shows around 70 per cent of abuse originates overseas. “These are not football fans,” he says. “They are people who have never been inside an English football ground.” In part that’s because – while our problem with racism is acute – we don’t have a monopoly on being morons. Italian and French football fans are as likely, if not more likely, to abuse black players with monkey emojis.

Some suggest that Russian or Chinese trolls may have weaponised discontent around football to intensify political and social tensions in England. “It will be totally unsurprising if trolls started sharing bad stuff for these players, given that their goal is to sow public discord, and this is an excellent opportunity to do so,” says Savvas Zannettou of the Max Planck Institute for Informatics in Germany, who studies information warfare online."

Source:https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-media/2021/07/who-behind-online-abuse-black-england-players-and-how-can-we-stop

5 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

You are wrong and telling lies.  It is less effective not utterly useless. You don't appear able to read

If it drops antibody levels by 50% every 40 days then it is utterly useless after 80 days.

8 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

By the by... How do they know who it was that edited the Wiki entry? at

 

serious quesrion, not knowing how it works.

Good question. Perhaps he didn't use vpn and they requested the details from the website via law.

(but I imagine that would take time, and wikipedia might not be interested in helping convict the young lad)

Or it has something to do with this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_Thailand#Single_Internet_gateway

Quote:

"single gateway system makes it easier for state authorities to monitor, filter, delete, and intercept information on the internet that the authorities deem inappropriate."

52 minutes ago, RobU said:

todays WOKE and Cancel culture where the big social communications platforms are practicing more draconian 'Thought censorship' than the Chinese

Wouldn't be surprised if it was all part of the CCP plan it's been proven that 70% of the racist comments after the Euros were posted from dubious proxies abroad causing unrest in the UK.

"Sanjay Bhandari, chair of Kick It Out, the campaign group against racism in football, says that data from the last two seasons of football shows around 70 per cent of abuse originates overseas. “These are not football fans,” he says. “They are people who have never been inside an English football ground.” In part that’s because – while our problem with racism is acute – we don’t have a monopoly on being morons. Italian and French football fans are as likely, if not more likely, to abuse black players with monkey emojis.

Some suggest that Russian or Chinese trolls may have weaponised discontent around football to intensify political and social tensions in England. “It will be totally unsurprising if trolls started sharing bad stuff for these players, given that their goal is to sow public discord, and this is an excellent opportunity to do so,” says Savvas Zannettou of the Max Planck Institute for Informatics in Germany, who studies information warfare online. But to date there is little evidence of what social media platforms call coordinated, inauthentic behaviour."

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-media/2021/07/who-behind-online-abuse-black-england-players-and-how-can-we-stop

5 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

are just the part of the immune system that's designed to fight off what the body identifies as a foreign biological entity. Once they've done their job and eliminated the "foreign Invader" -

TAT's guidelines?:D

Every thread about vaccine u find the same clowns defending Sinovac like it's their job:D 

It's getting amusing.

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Nor is there much you can do about people choosing to take the vaccines?

I'm not the one here telling them they "gotta go with what they got am I? you are!

32 minutes ago, placeholder said:

gotta go with what you got.

At this moment the Thai people have the free will to choose for themselves but the evidence is clear.

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It was the doctors demanding different vaccines

There's also more than quarter of a million signatures from the Thai people on change.org that don't want Sinovac injected into their bodies.

Also 9 million that have registered for mRNA vaccines instead of the Chinese stuff. 

I suspect they and many more will not be going with what they (the government) got.

Not much you can do about it is there?:D

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

you gotta go with what you got.

People don't have to inject any vaccine into their body that is ineffective against the delta variant. 

It is their human right to choose what they put into their body. 

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Did you get that definition out of a medical dictionary? Because efficacy, effective, and effectiveness have precise meanings in epidemiological terminology.

Good job I use the word ineffective then isn't it?:D still trying to split hairs? there is no dual meaning to the word ineffective that is some nonsense.

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Is that all you've got? No scientific reports say that Sinovac is ineffective. Less effective, almost certainly. It's just this reporter for the thaienquirer who claims this is the case. He couldn't get a doctor - even one who is greatly disaffected - to say that.

Why are you always splitting hairs? the Virologists are saying it won't have the desired effect of halting the Delta variant.

Gosh you do tire me but I have googled the definition of ineffective for you because I'm nice like that.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Not "ineffective but "less effective".

Clutching at straws again?:D 

17 minutes ago, placeholder said:

there's been corruption? 

You obviously haven't been paying attention to the news have you? not behind the great firewall are you?:D

I'm not here to do your research for you.