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9 hours ago, cheapcanuck said:

No quarantined hotels. Just normal hotels. Stay in place for a day and they can contact you by phone with results.

Um, that's quarantine in a hotel.

45 minutes ago, steevjee said:

Long enough for them to know if you are Covid free apparently, as it's been 3 days since your last test. Most test results should be known within 8 hours so not sure where you get 2 nights from? Also the Sandbox is 2 PCR tests and 7 nights accom' pre booked, so this is better IMO

Hotels charge you for another night if you are not out by a certain time. Say you get to the hotel and check in at 3:00 a.m., their crack swabbing team doesn't get to work until 10:00 a.m., your test result comes back 10 hours later. What if the swabbing staff don't work 24/7 but maybe 10-6? Your result would come back after they are gone for the day. So, you would end up paying for two nights.

14 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

OK , so exactly when will the test be done. You book the 1 night in the AQ but don't get there till say 6pm. Does that mean more nights in the AQ as they testing staff have left for the day ? What time will the hotels be doing tests ? Seems to me , unless the tests are done at the airport and you get the result in the hotel on arrival or morning after, the hotels are about to fleece the incoming as you cannot leave until you get your results.

 

I'm not even sure 'THEY' will be taking you anywhere. THEY will not be responsible for your travel to your hotel I would imagine. You'll make your own way there as I read it.

 

It's all nuts and nothing concrete.

I've seen talk of swabbing stations at the airport (would be a nightmare) or at the hotels or at some place generalized on your way to the hotel. Right. If you get to the hotel early in the morning, when will they actually swab you? Seems to me that many people will end up having to book two days at the hotel rather than one even if the actual test to result time is around 12 hours. 

10 minutes ago, DaveE13 said:

I think the way I read it that when you land they take you straight to the hotel you booked and testing either there or near by. Cant imagine that they will do it at airport. 

I thought I had recently seen articles about their setting up swabbing stations at the airport.

9 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Why’s that?

Imagine that getting swabbed at the airport is a process that takes, on average, about 3 minutes per person. A plane load of 400 people would take a total of 1,200 minutes of processing time (3 x 400). That's 20 hours of processing time added to the other stuff you have to navigate to get out of the airport. If they have 10 processing stations running simultaneously, that would cut the time to process that plane load to 2 hours. So, for an individual traveler, that could mean standing in a line for an extra 2 hours just for that one part (then, there is baggage claim and immigration and such). I would call that a frustration. As for the airport: what happens if more planes land in that 2-hour period? Those passengers would have to wait before even entering the line to get swabbed.

13 minutes ago, Bkktodd said:

My god. One night wont kill you.  I ve done 3 quarantines 15/15/ and a 7 starting tomorrow. I think the one night become a question of many cheap charlies that should just consider somewhere else for cheap beer

Absolutely right. Won't kill any of us. It will dissuade many travelers and work against their goal of saving the high season. Also that PCR test on arrival is going to frustrate the process of going through the airport even if only a few planes land per day. It's also not honest to call it "quarantine-free" or say we are "exempt from quarantine" while it includes a one- to two-day quarantine. 

10 minutes ago, Longwood50 said:

So lets see, lets welcome tourists and eliminate quarantine but expect them to come to Thailand to enjoy restaurants that can not serve them a beer with their meal.  No bars to socialize at. 

What could possibly go wrong with this plan. 

Um, they didn't eliminate quarantine...they just said that they did. It's still there. Just shorter.

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

Personally 1-2 nights would not be a great concern, its all better than 14 nights quarantine, given what the ‘world’ has gone through, anything is an improvement. 

 

 

 

I agree. For me, this is a big improvement. (I doubt that for regular tourists, the hoops have been reduced enough to really save the high season, though.) I wish they would stop calling it "quarantine-free" as there is, in fact, a quarantine required. 

45 minutes ago, aussiexpat said:

ATK kit requires pre-paid payment with the arrival PCR test and 1 nights hotel

• Each traveller will receive an ATK that they have prepaid when booking the accommodation.
• Any traveller experiencing COVID-19 symptoms must immediately get a test done, using the provided ATK. If experiencing no symptoms, travellers must use the provided ATK for COVID-19 self-testing on Day 6-7, and show the result to staff at the hotel or accommodation, as well as record the result (bot detected and non-detected) in the MorChana App.

If no symptoms, we do the self test on day 6 or 7 and show it to staff? If I come to BKK, I will do the one- to two-day quarantine, then go to my apartment. So, on day 6 or 7 I would show the result to my wife?

18 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

This not something that would concern me. 

 

For Sandboxers (in Phuket) the PCR tests results were returned the same evening (within a few hours). 

 

Thus, I very much doubt anyone would be waiting for more than 24 hours for their PCR test result unless there has been some form of mix-up etc. 

 

 

Still, the wait will likely cause many to have to book two nights in the hotel. For example, the flight I was looking at would arrive in BKK a little after midnight. By the time I get through airport b.s. and check into the hotel, it might be around 3:00 a.m. If the test results were to get to me twelve hours later, I would have to book a second day at the hotel as most have the cut-off around noon. 

52 minutes ago, aussiexpat said:

What do they care how long you stay, they already have you locked into this:

 

5. payment confirmation for no less than a 1-night stay upon arrival at the approved quarantine facilities (Alternative Quarantine – AQ, Organisation Quarantine – OQ, or Alternative Hospital Quarantine – AHQ), or SHA Plus-certified hotel.

• The prepayment should cover both the 1-night accommodation, the required RT-PCR COVID-19 test, and an Antigen Test Kit (ATK).

...and an antigent test kit? Where does that figure in?

2 hours ago, yogi yogi said:

ive seen rooms for 15 bucks u can handle it.  they just opened the flood gates and u want more?

I want more. Doubt it will be a flood.

3 hours ago, Prince77 said:

They prepare for something which is not yet clearly regulated? Wow - wish they would make a clear statement regarding November 1st on how it will be handled.

 

I wish they would stop referring to it as "quarantine-free" when they seem to plan to demand a one- to two-day quarantine. Maybe they could be honest and start calling it "shorter quarantine?"

27 minutes ago, scorecard said:

COE? From 1 Nov it's the 'Thailand Pass'.

Might get even another new name in December.

So, for vaccinated travelers from the select countries, we do still have a quarantine. Just one to two days instead of seven, ten, or fourteen. Let's stop calling it "no quarantine" or "without quarantine" please.

3 hours ago, arithai12 said:

 

Do you really believe that you did the "math" better than they can?

 

Um, yeah.

18 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

As with the Phuket Sandbox - it would likely take about 1-2 minutes per person. 

Additionally, each person has to get though immigration and collect their baggage - they do not all queue up at the PCR check point at the same time... they are ‘drip fed’ through based on their progress through immigration and the baggage hall. 

 

IF it takes immigration 1-2 mins per person, the additional PCR testing is only an additional few mins per person. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay. Nice that they were able to process people in 1-2 minutes per person. If that were the rate at Bangkok, then a plane of 400 would take 800 minutes, or 9 hours and 20 minutes. If they had 10 stations for such, it would still take an extra hour and 20 minutes just for that one plane. What if more planes land during that hour and a half? Looks to me like swabbing people at the airport would be a <deleted> show.