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4 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

I couldn't be bothered to do the maths but iimagine the waiting when your dehydrated and exhausted after 18 hours travelling.

I think they are arguing behind the scenes about the final details.

 

Here's some math:

If it takes 25 minutes to process one person, a plane of 400 people would take 10,000 minutes, or 7 days to process (if there is one processed at a time). If they had 14 processing stations running non-stop simultaneously, then that plane-load would take 12 hours before the travelers could proceed to baggage claim. But, what if another plane lands during that 12 hours?! In order for the plane load to be processed in only 1.2 hours, they would have to have 140 processing stations running non-stop.

So, if it takes 25 minutes per person to process them out, it would take total of 10,000 minutes, or 7 days, to process 400 people arriving on an international flight. If they have 14 processing stations running non-stop, then the people on that plane could be all on their way to baggage claim in only 12 hours. Of course, what about the people on other planes that arrive during that twelve hours?

"He did not refer to this as quarantine by name." So, if we don't call it quarantine, it's not quarantine. 

3 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

This is why you get Covid insurance that covers this sort of thing. Quite a racket!

I can imagine some Covid insurance policies not covering you if you simply test positive but are asymptomatic. Could end up being a big out-of-pocket expense. 

ASEAN can now note that there is even more confusion.

It's not the double- and triple-vaccinated travelers that pose a risk to Thailand. It's the un-vaccinated populace of Thailand that poses a risk to the travelers. Just require a test before flight and proof of vaccine. Do that, and you might save some of the high season this year. 

1 minute ago, fusion58 said:

Well, I found this:

 

https://quick.md/fit-to-fly-certificate/
 

75 bucks a whack for those in the U.S.

Complete <deleted>. They ask you, "are you sick?" So, you say, "no." They collect the money and you download a certificate. Sounds like a great method to protect public health. 

Just now, HeijoshinCool said:

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Doctors will issue one....

 

Hey, it's only another $150! ????

They won't in the U.S. even for $150. 

19 minutes ago, fusion58 said:

I thought they did away with this requirement?

 

Why are they bringing it back now, and where the hell am I supposed to get one?

This is a circus.

6 minutes ago, gk10012001 said:

Just how do they or he define safely?  Just by some percentage of vaccinations?  Do they have some Risk calculation?  Who decides?

If they thought vaccines provided safety, they would have vaccinated people in Thailand by now. No. That's not what they mean, I'm sure. What they probably mean is by keeping all sorts of things in place (multiple PCR tests on arrivals, keeping some sort of quarantine, transporting us in hazmat suits on sealed routes in vehicles driving through a land filled with unvaccinated Thai people, and such) to maintain the view that it's we dirty farangs who threaten the safety of people in Thailand rather than the fact that such a low percentage of the population has been provided vaccines. 

Did he clarify if "no quarantine" for vaccinated visitors actually means no quarantine?

2 minutes ago, Jaffacake said:

Does anyone have any more information on the 1 night ASQ stay required for the "quarantine free" entry into Bangkok? 

 

My mum is visiting in January and is currently in the process of getting things booked,  can't seem to find much about it online and wasn't aware of it until I read this thread. I presume she would be taken to the hotel from the airport by officials and then free to go anywhere thereafter? 

 

 

Nothing yet. As it is said to begin November 1, I suggest checking back in around December 15.

3 minutes ago, overherebc said:

I have a feeling that the 'openly obvious' dare I use the expresion sex oriented bars could be a thing of the past. Very likely the bars with the girls sitting outside may not be seen again. Will they survive with only the 'waitresses' inside and out of sight? I also reckon the pole dancing bars have gone for good. The underlying industry will still be there but in a different form. Can I say more behind closed doors?

Where would that leave places like Nana and Soi Cowboy?

Oh, all those places can just convert themselves into family-friendly restaurants like Chuck-E-Cheese or something. Didn't you hear? Thailand is going to attract families now instead of the kind of people who have traditionally enjoyed Thai night life. 

They have to:

1) come up with a reasonable plan that tourists actually find acceptable (not done, yet), and

2) enact that plan in a way that subsequent tourists can trust (unlikely...what happens if a person tests positive and spreads the word about the mandatory 14-day hospital incarcertation...or, what if a person is on a plane with a person who tests positive and they get quarantined, too?)

This is October 16. No clear plan, yet. 

It's already a failure. People make their travel plans ahead of time. November 1st is now only two weeks away and confusion reigns. They're still telling people to use the tracking app that doesn't work. They said "no quarantine" for vaccinated travelers from selected countries but now say one to two days of quarantine and can't decide on which countries are actually on the list. If they wanted to save this high season, clear rules for entry would have been in place two months ago.