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Given that in Thailand, "no quarantine" and "quaranting exempt" still include a quarantine, what will they call it if they actually remove the quaranting in the future? Maybe: No Quarantine, We Really Mean It This Time!

They didn't just change the name but made it a bit more cumbersome. That should really help attract more people!

If they ever actually totally remove any quarantine requirement, since they have now used "quarantine free" and "exempt from quarantine" to include quarantine, would they have to come up with a new name? Maybe that could call it "Quarantine-free, Really!" or "Exempt from. Quarantine (Jing-Jing, we really mean it this time)."

We'll see. Seems like it will depend on when you land, when you get to the hotel, when the swabbing staff get to you, and how quick the turn-around is (esp meaning do that do all of that before you have to book another night).

Because Thailand is so good at speaking with a coordinated voice?

The borders not being policed pose a much, much bigger threat to Thailand in regards to infections than letting in fully-vaccinated travelers who are tested twice. On a related note, if only about 40% of the 70 million people in Thailand are vaccinated and they could get around 65 million vaccinated tourists to arrive all at once, then 70% of the people in Thailand at that time would be vaccinated even without giving any more vaccines to Thais.

I'm pretty okay with whatever consenting adults choose to do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. But, who buys used medical gloves. And, why?

How does that solve his problem? He will be employed, working remotely, and in Thailand with no work permit.

I appreciate all the comments on this thread. I'm left as confused as when I started, though. Thailand needs to address this issue partly to come up to speed with the nature of remote work and also to clarify to potential digital nomads and other remote workers exactly what is accepted and what is illegal and could carry consequences (such as deportation and/or getting blacklisted). Given the general confusion about all types of policies in the government, I'm not hopeful this will happen soon or in a coherent manner. So, seems that anyone working remotely while located in Thailand just has to lay low and hope they don't get noticed.

I always have an alcohol plan.

Why is Miss Universe always from Earth?

Scrolled down and found it. Thanks!

In the past, when I applied for a visa to visit Thai family in Thailand, the length of stay was 90 days. When I went to the e-visa page to start a new visa application, it said "less than 60 days" on that type of visa. Did that change?

Yes. Under the "no quarantine" rules as a "quarantine exempt" person, you only need to quarantine at an approved hotel for one to two nights.

...especially when the one night turns into two.

Agree.

Me, too. So far only finding the 100k policies.

That does seem to be correct. Under the "no quarantine" program, a "quarantine exempt" person can do the one- to two-day quarantine within a two-hour drive of Bangkok.

Where is that list?

Hail to Richard for pointing to the fundamental issue! We can't debate numbers in Thailand when they are being hidden and manipulated to the point of being invalid and useless. It renders this survey and subsequent discussion mostly moot.

It's a <deleted>-ing circus.

Waiting until the beginning of November to try to save this high season was insane. So many of us have to make plans ahead of time.

Me, too. Pushing my flight to the end of November due to such a high level of confusion and nonsense.

Test & GO: Quarantine-Free Entry Requirements From 1 November, 2021. Travel by air from the approved countries. Currently, Thailand has approved quarantine-free entry for arrivals from Australia, Austria, Bahrain, Belgium, Bhutan, Brunei Darussalam, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Canada, Chile, China, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Malaysia, Malta, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UAE, UK, USA, and Hong Kong. Must have been in the approved countries for 21 days or more. For returning Thais and foreign residents, it is not necessary to be in an approved country for 21 days or more, as long as they are travelling from Thailand to the approved country/s and return within the last 21 days. A Certificate of Entry (COE) or a proof of registration for entry Thailand via specified platform. Currently, the COE can be applied online https://coethailand.mfa.go.th/. A Medical Certificate with an RT-PCR lab result indicating that COVID-19 is not detected issued no more than 72 hours before travelling. A Medical Certificate of Recovery is also required from those having a lab result with COVID-19 detected to show that that have recovered from COVID-19 no later than 3 months. An insurance policy, with coverage clearly identified as no less than US$50,000, which should cover the cost of the treatment and other medical expenses associated with being infected with COVID-19, including in-patient hospitalisation for the whole duration in Thailand. *Except for Thai citizens who are entitled to the national health insurance system.* A payment confirmation for no less than a 1-night stay upon arrival at the approved quarantine facilities (Alternative Quarantine – AQ, Organisation Quarantine – OQ, or Alternative Hospital Quarantine – AHQ), or SHA Plus-certified hotel. The prepayment should cover both the 1-night accommodation, the required RT-PCR COVID-19 test, and an Antigen Test Kit (ATK). A Certificate of Vaccination (fully vaccinated). For those fully vaccinated, proof includes a Certificate of Vaccination with a vaccine approved by Thailand’s Ministry of Public Health (MoPH) (see here) or the World Health Organisation (WHO) (see here) no less than 14 days before their travel date. and a Certificate of Vaccination with at least one dose of the approved vaccine at least 14 days before their travel date. Travellers under 12 years of age, travelling with their parents or guardians, are exempt from this vaccination requirement, but must have a Medical Certificate with an RT-PCR lab result indicating that COVID-19 is not detected issued no more than 72 hours before travelling. Undergo the entry screening (health screening and Immigration procedures) upon arrival at Thailand’s International Airport, and submit all the required documentation to the officials. Then proceed directly by the approved airport transfer to the pre-arranged COVID-19 test centre, or the reserved accommodation and undergo the required RT-PCR COVID-19 test on Day 0-1. Travellers must download and install the specified alert application (MorChana), and must wait within the accommodation only for the test result, which should be available within the day. If testing negative for COVID-19, travellers can go anywhere in Thailand. Each traveller will receive an ATK that they have prepaid when booking the accommodation. Any traveller experiencing COVID-19 symptoms must immediately get a test done, using the provided ATK. If experiencing no symptoms, travellers must use the provided ATK for COVID-19 self-testing on Day 6-7, and show the result to staff at the hotel or accommodation, as well as record the result (bot detected and non-detected) in the MorChana App. Hotel/AQ staff must recommend that travellers self-monitor themselves for at least 7 days. If any traveller experiences COVID-19 symptoms, Hotel/AQ staff must immediately notify the officer in charge of communicable disease control in their respective area. For travelling from Thailand to other countries, travellers are advised to follow the guidelines and measures announced by the respective country of their destination. For #9 since I plan to go to my apartment after the mandatory two-day quarantine of the "no quarantine" plan, I suppose I show the ATK test result to my wife?

Right. I think for many (maybe most), it will be a two-day quarantine.