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3 minutes ago, transam said:

When there was no clear winner in the UK General elections was there a second vote.....?.....No...

Yes. February 1974. Harold Wilson formed a minority government but just couldn't make it work. Called another election in the October which he won with a clear majority, enabling him to form a viabe government, which remained in power for the full term of 5 years.

1 minute ago, transam said:

I don't have a problem, sobbing remainer's do...

So you're happy to call another referendum then?

1 minute ago, luckyluke said:

When democracy is not respected, pretty sure :

 

French people will come on the street. 

 

We Belgians, I presume, will whine about it. 

 

Don't know about U.K.,

 

not really see the people in the U.K. hitting the street,

more like we, whining. 

 

And people who aren't disgruntled, don't take to the streets and don't whine.

It's always the vocal minority who take to the streets and whine the most.

The recent street protests in Venezuela are a classic example.

On ‎5‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 5:45 PM, AlexCanada said:

Are there any good Hungarian restaurants in Pattaya?  Just looking for a simple Hungarian Schnitzel and potatoes dish or Goulash.

The Beerfest (T21 and the Avenue) has a signature Goulash and a pretty decent draught weissbier too.

43 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Corbyn still only has one vote in Parliament. So criticise the unprincipled for being.......... unprincipled! 

He has the power of the whip, and don't put it beyond him to make veiled threats to MPs. Momentum now control many constituencies. There have already been moves to deselect sitting MPs and parachute Momentum acolytes into their seats.

9 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

65% of Labour voters didn't vote remain,  65% of Labour voters that voted in the 2015 General election voted remain which is completely different to 65% of Labour voters voting for remain

Is it? In what way? I'm all ears.

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

If these MPs and parties do not stick to their manifestos then they can be fairly criticised then. Can't they? And what about the 35% of labour voters who want out?

 

Whatever, if prospective MPs want to go against their own party manifestos, then they should declare so before the vote.

"If these MPs and parties do not stick to their manifestos then they can be fairly criticised then. Can't they? And what about the 35% of labour voters who want out?"

And have been after every GE that I can remember. Corbyn represented the 35% of members that wanted out. And who represents the 48% (allegedly a lot more now) of voters in the referendum who wanted to remain?

"Whatever, if prospective MPs want to go against their own party manifestos, then they should declare so before the vote."

Agree, but that would require them having principles, something that I see very little of in the HoC.

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Be flabbergasted then. If those MPs were so principled then I say that they should have openly declared that they disagreed with their own party manifestos while standing for Parliament in 2017? That is what is relevant.

How often do parties stick rigidly to their manifestos after being elected? Never.

Should those MPs have and ignored their manifestos? Absolutely. Remember, 65% of Labour voters, voted remain. Their MPs should have backed their constituents rather than towing a party line that they had no real belief in.

1 hour ago, transam said:

Not really, NOBODY agrees on EVERYTHING.....????

But why such venom and personal attacks when they don't agree? I don't see that on non Brexit related threads.

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh dear oh dear....

But at least you know something of my forum history....

Not sure if it was this thread or another Brexit thread where a poster noted that his friends had splintered into 2 camps, Brexit and remain, and, due to the amount of animosity between the 2 camps, they no longer associated with each other. It's a really sad reflection on how this issue has divided the country.

I have found exactly the same on TV, posters that I previously shared most of my opinions with and had the banter with, now abuse me openly without any provocation. Very sad really.

55 minutes ago, bomber said:

Labour know what they have to go if the 65% is correct,

65% is the official YouGov figure. The number of Labour MPs who support remain is even greater. However Momentum have hijacked the Labour party and installed Corbyn as their leader, an inveterate Brexiteer. Nothing will change until the ordinary working man takes back control of his party.

11 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

Excuse me!  Have you ever noticed that Thais all have nicknames?  Because no one can pronounce their official ID card names...case in point...how do you pronounce the name of the new king?  

 

I rest my case...????

I found the new king's name quite easy. Maha. However, yesterday he was bestowed a completely new name. Even my wife can't pronounce it.

21 minutes ago, Stupooey said:

 

People seem to be very quick to criticise the MPs, but seem to absolve those who voted them in, namely the UK voting public. In the 2015 General Election, 650 MPs were elected, over 75% of whom believed that it was in the UK's best interest to remain in the EU. Just one year later, they were being asked to abandon their principles at the behest of 37% of the electorate.

 

One of the many ironies of the whole Brexit issue is that the people who claim to want to take back absolute sovereignty are the self same ones who are now being critical of the way parliamentary sovereignty currently operates in our representative democracy.

 

 

It's probably the biggest single issue that irks me about the whole debacle. In the run up to the referendum, no one really put up an impassioned opposition to the Brexit campaign. Labour were the biggest culprits, with the majority of their MPs and 65% of their electorate being remainers. Corbyn sat on the fence but it was clear that he was and remained a lifelong Brexiteer.

Who represented me in the debate, a lifelong Labour voter and remainer? No one.

The biggest stumbling block to getting Article 50 revoked is Corbyn. A traitor to his own party if not his personal agenda.

I firmly believe that if the Labour party had a credible leader when May called a snap election, we would have a Labour government now. If that leader had been a dedicated remainer, Article 50 would already have been revoked.

3 hours ago, transam said:

I don't understand why every day you post here slagging off one side of the debate as somehow demented. I for one do not take you seriously because of it. 

I only reply in that tone to those that slag me off. If someone posts reasoned debate, I reply in like. Rare from a brexiteer though.

As for yourself, king of the one line, one word posts which add nothing to the debate, as in your post above. Does anyone take you seriously? POTY? Ye gods, remind me never to accept such a dubious accolade! Who was your predecessor, Jingthing? 555.

6 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

Sorry that you misprinted ,i think you meant remainers ,not Brexiteers .

Nope you got it right first time. Brexiteers, not remainers. Desperate and bereft of sane ideas.

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Good for him although I expect it beyond many. 

He makes liberal use of EDs.

22 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

All the talk of moving to another place is only talk.

After the BS rhetoric in his OP, my money's on him having bit the bullet and paid an agent for a mucky visa extension.

Just now, jacko45k said:

You got a few things to learn about being 90 I am sure. 

Friend of mine is 81. Snowbird. Can't keep him out of the bars and gogos when he's here. His favourite bars are BJ bars, where he just reclines on a couch, in the bar and lets a couple of girls go to work on him.

You really are never too old.

9 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Mrs best friend is considering divorcing her husband over his cocks, told him it's them or the family. He's turned the garden into a breeding farm, got about 30. He fights with blades on them and gambles heavily on the fights, seriously addicted.

Visited a large cockpit arena near my home, with a Thai friend who had entered his cock. The fighting didn't interest me much but the behaviour of the men attending was very revealing. Lots of big money changing hands and the guys faces! Ranged between pure venom and ecstasy as the cocks ripped into each other. Electric atmosphere.