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4 minutes ago, Genericnic said:

Obviously the guy you talked to at Pacific Cross has no idea of how insurance companies work in the rest of the world. Your chances of getting two directors and the mysterious "Authorized signature" to sign the form have a probability approaching zero. If it were that easy, I would have done it.

 

David

As I pointed out in the first sentence. I DON'T KNOW. Here is the conversation anyone interested can learn about for themselves. 
 

1 minute ago, Trolleen said:

Thai insurance is much more cheap and better choice if you are not very seek. As I said to fulfill ???? requirement for 50 years old man cost 25.000 baht per year. 

I actually found this IMG international insurance, with a high deductible, which means I must pay out of pocket to activate the insurance on demand. But I paid 19,000 baht for the basic bronze level coverage which far exceeds Thai insurance. International insurances are still a better deal to simply have emergency coverage to satisfy the insurance requirements for OA. You would then need to get the attached form (link below) completed for your next OA renewal. 

https://longstay.tgia.org/document/overseas_insurance_certificate.pdf

38 minutes ago, Genericnic said:

If you are single - as I am - and 70+ - as I am - they are half way there already. My non-O-A that I have been on extensions for since 2011 now requires the the overpriced, low quality insurance from a Thai company that in no way would cover me as well as the first world insurance I already have.

 

In January, rather than renew my non-O-A extension, I will be getting a new non-O visa based on retirement from one of the neighboring countries. While I have no more firm information than anyone else, my best guess is that by the end of next year, if not sooner, insurance - most likely the same overpriced, low quality insurance as is now required for non-O-A visas and extensions - will be required for non-O (retirement) visas and their extensions. And, as with the current situation, I don't anticipate any exceptions for people covered by the Thai social security program or by international insurance that is equal to or better than the coverage required now - the main reason being that those exceptions would not bring any money into the Thai insurance companies. 

 

David

I don't know as I have a Marriage VISA but here is some information to consider. According to this guy at Pacific Cross you can incorporate your current coverage to qualify your current OA. Or you can consider getting the attached form (link provided) filled out by your current insurance carrier. The form requires two corporate "directors" names to be listed and one signatory. This should directly qualify you at your next OA renewal. 

Jamie Connell from Thaivisa Protect / Pacific Cross Insurance For further information 02 401 9171

https://longstay.tgia.org/document/overseas_insurance_certificate.pdf

Very interesting... Got it. NWO HQ. Just a subtle hint Thailand, you're expected to join or be conquered. 

I cannot vouch for Benjamin Hart an American Attorney based in Bangkok... but you clearly need someone. 

http://www.integrity-legal.com/

3 hours ago, Suradit69 said:

Apparently three directors need to sign it. Something tells me that if they were willing to help they could find three people in some office who are authorized to sign  on behalf of the company or Board.   When policies are issued they would need to be signed on behalf of the company/Board.

 

According to Sheryl (as far as I could tell) the signed certificate is only good for your original entry on a visa ... although I thought that acceptance was made by Thai embassies when issuing the O-A visa and indicating proof of insurance with a notation on the visa??

 

According to another poster he was able to renew his extension at CW without any mention of insurance, but then another poster went ballistic because that poster didn't mention whether his first entry was on an O-A or O visa.

 

So, as usual here at TV, we have an abundance of "experts" who all post conflicting information or at least conflicting interpretations of the same information... and of course a good sampling of posters who "reliably" report the experience of a friend.

 

 

The way I read the bottom of this form, the two directors names are printed in and then anyone who is "authorized" to sign documents within the insurance company signs it. I would suggest getting a translated copy of the relevant cabinet resolution, read it, explain it in a letter, include a copy to the insurance company and I would think that would go a long way to getting the form completed. 

https://longstay.tgia.org/document/overseas_insurance_certificate.pdf

9 hours ago, hereforgood said:

No it is incorrect as it has been reported insurance from your home country will not be considered or the guys that have tried and been rejected are not telling the truth and I doubt that is the case. They seem to be requiring Thai based ins companys and they are happy to show you a list

Foreign insurance can in fact be considered... The way I read the bottom of this form, the two directors names are printed in and then anyone who is "authorized" to sign documents within the insurance company signs it. I would suggest getting a translated copy of the relevant cabinet resolution, read it, explain it in a letter, include a copy to the insurance company and I would think that would go a long way to getting the form completed. 

https://longstay.tgia.org/document/overseas_insurance_certificate.pdf

That's right Gosmk10. Extensions of stay are just that extensions of a VISA. When one applies for "retirement" extensions of stay within the Kingdom, they do so based upon a Non-Immigrant "O" VISA. Now... because the new health insurance requirement only applies to O-A and O-X Visas, only those who are seeking an extension of the original O-A and O-X Visas will be required to have health insurance. To summarize. Only O-A and O-X Visa applicants and extensions of those VISAs are required to have health insurance. 

16 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

Yes, the financial part. Do the math, let's say 5 year Elite visa för 500k. Compare that to 5x 1900 baht for annual extensions. You have to do almost exactly same at the immigration office as if you have an O Visa with extensions, except the extension part, which in May took me less than 4 minutes to do. Elite visas are for people who don't meet the requirements for a long term visa/extension, or have loads of money to throw away. 

That is a fair point. Don't throw your money away willy nilly. Are you saying that even with the Elite VISA you still have to go in for annual renewals? For me... I have looked at this issue for several years now coming in and out on tourist VISA's... as my current work takes me in and out of the kingdom frequently. But, when I fully pull the plug and slow down on work, it will be clear enough for me and for my peace of mind, body and soul, instead of parking the 800,000 in a nearly non existent interest bearing account that I won't be able to use the entire time I am retire here, I might as well just give them the money and for 20 years I have no worries, No worries about any current or future changes to all the VISA issues. The 20 year TE VISA works out to 4,166 baht per month. I would pay 5 times that amount in taxation costs living back in my home country... I am still getting a deal in Thailand.

17 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Yes it is.

Then this is the way to go... You get a near hassle free, except 90 day reporting, VISA. Can keep your own health insurance, or not have any at all (self insure) and not have to park money in the bank, worry about annual renewals and any future changes to the Non-O and not have to worry about leaving and coming back. Seems worth it. Am I missing any downsides to this?

Looking at the https://www.thailandelite.com/at-your-service/card/elite-superiority-extension-membership?locate=en this seems to indicate a 20 year TE VISA for 1 million baht. That works out to 50,000 baht per year. Is this a correct assessment? If this is true, this could a great option for those who can no longer qualify for health insurance. 

On 5/21/2019 at 5:34 AM, Estrada said:

I entered on a 30 days permission to stay then applied for a retirement VISA. My Visa was issued by Thai Immigration CW and is a proper stand alone VISA stamped type 'O' and headed VISA. I have posted photos several times in the past because of all the arguments that all Visas must be issued out of country. The type O VISA issued by immigration is the only Visa issued in country and is normally for retirement. The Visa gets stamped "USED" within a few minutes of issue and then you are given an extension based on retirement stamp VISA Type: O-RE 

Is it actually stamped "O-RE?" And presumably the RE stands for "retirement?"

10 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You have to be working for a company to get a work permit and be paid at least 50k baht per month for 3 consecutive years to apply for PR. 

Wow. That sucks... so beyond really the "Thai Wife" and "Retirement" extensions of stay, there are no options unless you pay for the OX or Elite... does that sound about right?

I would like to get my PR. I work as a contractor internationally for my income currently. I have a "Thai Wife" Visa and I understand I also need a work permit both for 3 years before I can apply. Questions: Does the financial requirement for PR need to come from my work in Thailand? And why the hell is their a work permit requirement for PR anyway?

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On 7/9/2018 at 11:08 AM, ubonjoe said:

Your info is almost a decade out of date.

Since the nationality act was amended in 2008 a person married to a Thai does not have to have permanent residence to apply for Thai citizenship. It requires working for 3 years with a work permit and paying taxes.

I would like to get my PR. I have a "Thai Wife" VISA. I understand I need three years for the VISA and three years with a work permit. First question if I may, is why does PR require a work permit? Secondly, How does one get a work permit? I currently work as an international contractor, one month in, one month out schedule. Know of, or can you recommend any job that is part-time or volunteer type that would give me a work permit so that I may qualify for the PR? Thank you for your time. 

On 10/9/2019 at 12:44 PM, Carlosm said:

I have just got a multi entry from Savannahket based on marriage. Will i need insurance when i leave the country for my 90 days ?

No. The new insurance requirement is for the Non-Immigrant O-A "retirement" VISA only.

1 hour ago, chilly07 said:

Can't see why anybody would use a retirement extension when a marriage extension is available and can't see why anybody would use the 800 or 400k in the bank method when monthly income is available

Also the use of an agent is perfectly legal if TI approve an extension as they are the law.

And there you have it folks. Chilly07 beat me too it. All you have to do Marry a Thai. I bet most of you retired have a girl right? Or maybe a ladyboy, that's another discussion ;). Why don't you just file a few more pieces of paper and photos and get the "Thai Wife" extension of stay? Then all you are required to show is 40,000 baht monthly income. You never have to park any money in the bank. 

5 hours ago, mmail2you said:

Can someone post the link to where you can do the online reporting as I have a laptop and want to use online report.

https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn24online/

30 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Not understanding your question. there is information on coverage and amounts  for insurance offered by Thai companies at the link

https://longstay.tgia.org   

 

The announcement in April is not so relevant now as it was never implemented and a new announcement is supposed to be coming this week.

 

 

It looks like yet another promised announcement has come and gone. This article was written August 18, 2019 and today is August 29th. Has the announcement been made?

26 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Not understanding your question. there is information on coverage and amounts  for insurance offered by Thai companies at the link

https://longstay.tgia.org   

 

The announcement in April is not so relevant now as it was never implemented and a new announcement is supposed to be coming this week.

 

 

I was asking if you might have any personal numbers you have been quoted? For example 20,000 baht annual for a silver plan or anything like that. 

On 5/15/2019 at 2:58 PM, Peterw42 said:

Maybe do some research before making statments that the insurance isnt available

Here is a list of several insurance companies that offer the 400/40 insurance requirements. These companies have been offering this insurance ever since the OX visa was introduced, the OX has the same 400k in/40k out requirements.

 

https://longstay.tgia.org

It is worth noting that the Guidelines statement... 

"Each applicant, including spouse and children, must hold Thai Health Insurance policy sold by authorized insurance companies only." 

This is deceiving. According to the April 2019 statement regarding the O-A health insurance initative, foreign health insurance that can be used in Thailand and meets minimum requirements is accepted. A question if you read this, do happen to have any annual amounts you can share with us on the listed Thai companies?