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Nice list of care facilities in Thailand from this guy's description are of his youtube post. 
 

Honestly... do a quick search to get you started on the obvious things that will be needed. Beyond that, you have to go down to the Ampur you will be dealing with. They can give a list of what THEY will need. As previously pointed out, each Ampur will have different requirements. I used a service, it was not a lot, I think I paid 8000 baht. But it was all facilitated nicely within three days. I am not endorsing Siam Legal... just providing this video for the basics. 
 

I had it for years. About 8 years ago my life changed radically. I had not been eating well, not exercising and had a stressful job that kept me up at extended periods of time. A sudden life change allowed me to change all of this and I would say within about a two year time span, the episodes slowly reduced frequency very near to zero. I find that when I get tired/sleepy/fatigued now, those leg urges will come back just slightly, but resolve quickly with a good nights rest. So I can't tell you what the exact remedy was other than to say that I think the overall stress was the cause. And I think the primary factor was not getting good sleep. I am a 3 cup a day coffee drinker (all before noon time) and drink alcohol regularly, I have never changed that. I only changed the stressful life situations, eating better and exercise that now allows me to sleep better at night. 

The time to buy gold was right before the 2008 mortgage backed financial crash. 

For me the title of the OP misses the important point. That this it is not an issue of either/or, or avoiding covering your health needs. It's an issue of wisely choosing/covering both necessary requirements, a VISA and health coverage. Regarding the TE alone as a VISA, to me is a complete waste of money, unless your Uber rich or a busy executive. And I would go on to say it is even a complete waste of money even if you have the money to spend. When you factor in that TE still requires you to comply with TM30/28, 90 day reporting, personal presence for your annual renewal (albeit with no paperwork/bank statements but still requires 1900 baht payment annually) and... 5 year renewal on top of the annual renewal it starts to look like a very expensive annual Non- O or OA doesn't it. Just get the Non O or OA and have an agent do renewals for you if you don't want the paperwork hassles and dealing with immigration. There are really only three situations IMO that can make TE worth it, even necessary. 

1. You can't qualify for the health insurance. To me, I do like the TE option as my go to for planning purposes should I somehow not qualify for health insurance in the future. 

2. The Uber wealthy/business execs who don't want the hassles of immigration reporting (TE advisors purportedly facilitate this for you) and you want to enjoy a golf discount and your own VIP line and transport at the airport.

3. You're too young for the retirement VISA options.

Because, when you breakdown the actual benefits of TE, it is clearly not worth it from any normal practical financial point of view. 

Do a border run and obtain another 60 day VISA at any embassy/consulate.  

10 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that Indians were already familiar with places like Bangkok and Pattaya but interest in Phuket, Chiang Mai and Koh Samui was growing. 

With the exception of Bangkok for obvious reasons, I now know where to stay away from. Likely marketing these same places to the Chinese?

29 minutes ago, impulse said:

I'm still hung up on all the guys who think they're going to fly home for treatment when they have a stroke or a heart attack. Or the guys who can self fund a hospital stay, but then they won't have enough money left over for the rest of their lives in Thailand.

 

Comparing the cost of an Elite visa to the cost of insurance?

 

 

These are obviously people who are ignorant. That kind of planning will obviously catch up with them. What you are describing is the very issue that the Thai government is trying to mitigate. The real issue are the older folks who don't qualify to get the insurance by pre-existing conditions or age. If the insurance requirement gets pushed into the Non-Immigrant O category, people who don't qualify are are pretty much screwed. Their only option is the TE. This of course doesn't solve their issue of funding any healthcare costs. 

7 hours ago, ukrules said:

Some people have mentioned that they don't like the process of 90 day reports, yearly extensions and the ridiculous TM30/28 address reporting , that's fair enough and there is a way around all of this - it's called 'Permanent Residency'.

I would love to get my PR, can you tell me how I get a work permit. I have a Thai Marriage VISA, just need a work permit for three years correct?

7 hours ago, ukrules said:

It costs 1900 Baht for the extension

Ha ha!! Wow. The applicant spends all that money on the TE and you still have to pay for each annual extension... brilliant! ????

9 hours ago, lupin said:

You are only required to go to immigration annually to renew the extension ONLY IF you stay in the kingdom for the entire year without leaving... so traveling out and back in to Thailand throughout the year negates the need to renew annually. Each entry back into Thailand will be stamped in again for another year. The exception is after the 5 year sticker expires, you then need to affix a new sticker at immigration.

Ok. Thanks for that explanation. It's so ridiculous. You have to be sure your TM30 is filled out on every travel period, or complete a TM28 if the TM30 doesn't get done for whatever reason, then have to do the 90 day reporting, then do the annual renewal as you describe, and then finally go for the 5 year sticker. So in reality the TE VISA only removes the annual hassle of paperwork/bank statements for the IO as required for the Non O for retirement or Marriage. 

On 10/16/2019 at 4:18 AM, Caldera said:

No. But whenever you arrive on an elite visa, you get stamped in for one year.

 

As with the 1-year permission to stay based on having a Non-OA visa, they COULD enforce the same health insurance requirement when stamping in an elite visa holder in the future - all it takes is another police order. That was my point, there's no guarantee that this won't happen eventually.

Do you know how this one year stamping in works? I understand the stamping in if you are traveling in and out of the Kingdom. For example, if you never leave the Kingdom, are you required to report annually to receive this stamp? What I am trying to find out is, are the TE holders required, like the Non-Immigrant O holders, to report to an immigration office annually? And if they are required, what are the time frames for this (is it like the Non-Immigrant O that you have a 45 day window to report annually for renewal)? Yes, I understand that the TE will not need to be "renewed" annually, but do you still need to physically show up annually to somehow activate another year OR get a stamp? 

1 hour ago, Momofarang said:

So, what if they asked you to show one of those stupid Thai insurance policies at 5 years renewal time? This is the reason why I wouldn't go for a 20years/1MB plan. Actually, considering the OA scam, I don't see any reason why they couldn't ask TE holders to show yearly policies altogether.

I thinking more and more, like AdamTheFarang, that our long stay days in LOS (whatever the S stands for) are counted. So I do my homework on Malaysia's immigration rules (90 days without visa and M2H).

God bless you.

However, using your logic here, which I totally agree with your sentiment to be aware and cautious, you could also find yourself seeing future similar changes in Malaysia as well. Immigration is an ever evolving issue in most countries these days. The idea here is "retirement" planning. A final resting place where you go all in in your advanced years. 

2 hours ago, stevecarteraus said:

The elite visa suits people that have the cash and don't want any future hassles. I am currently on the 5 year visa, got it when baht was a touch lower, paid it on a rewards credit card which gave me half an economy round trip to oz. I come to Thai 6 times a year, they meet me at the gate, take me through immigration and provide transport to my hotel. When I leave same in reverse and put me in the first class lounge while I wait for flight.

They say they assist with 90 day report, banking and drivers licence etc but I have not needed.

The 20 year is actually 4 x 5 year back to back visas, there is no annual renewal. When my current visa expires in 2 years I will decide which way I will go, I place a bigger value on lack of hassle than many people and will probably take on the 20 year visa. I really find no joy in ongoing dealing with bureaucracy as many people seem to do, then they get to complain about it.

In the end it is as they say up to you. 

Wrong question on my part regarding the annual renewal. What I want to know is, does the Elite Visa still require you to report to an immigration office annually? I have heard that you get a 60 day window of time at the end of your annual stamp to report to immigration. The reason I ask, is I travel in and out of the Kingdom often, sometimes for extended periods, and if I should not be here during my 60 day window, then when I return, theoretically, my TE Visa would not be in effect? If you (or anyone else reading this knows) could clarify the actual annual reporting requirements beyond the 90 day requirement... Thank you in advance. 

On 12/19/2019 at 10:47 AM, ujayujay said:

I have been living in hua for 4 years and my wife has a hairdressing salon here since 20 years.  Compared to 3 years ago it has more than 50% fewer western tourists.  I also wonder: where are the indian tourists!?

Sounds like heaven. ????

55 minutes ago, madmen said:

Outstanding work IO. nothing pisses me off more than que jumpers at airports  and I dont care if Im the only person in line !! 3 sides to every story and 100% OP cut someone off

 

They have a nightmare job with chinese and indians que jumping she was probably in shock to see stupid farang doing it`

 I bet thats the last time OP does that. I bet he was <deleted>ting himslef for a while there

 

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This is a great point. If there is no one around, no harm to jump the tape. But if we are being honest with ourselves, when there are others, nothing pisses you off to see line jumpers. So the IO is only doing what is right. From their point of view, they either enforce the line jumping always or not at all. Don't expect some preferential treatment just because their was no one with you in the line at the time. Don't expect them to evaluate the entire breadth of the rope line to see if there is anyone else in there before jumping your ass. 

Is it just me... I think this is great news. 

Technically, the landlord, home owner or 'possessor' of any residence is required by law to report the presence of a foreigner residing at that address to Immigration within 24-hours. If you are the foreigner and possessor then that is you. If not you, your landlord must still complete another TM30 report. Some jurisdictions allow landlords, home owners and 'possessors' to pre-register so that this filing can be done online (see Peter Denis' post on how to do that). It is impossible to generalize if/when and if provincial immigration offices will support this online system but based on other threads that suggested that certain people filing extensions and/or 90-day reports were being given extra scrutiny and being fined regarding lack of TM30 filing it would be prudent to find out at your local office.

I read one case, after hearing that their local Immigration were asking extension applicants and 90-day reporters to get their landlords, owners or 'possessors' to complete TM30's as part of their application processing and reporting, they took a completed TM30 to immigration as part of their paperwork for the annual retirement extension. In some cases it appears they hand the form back as it was not required, some cases they do require it. This is the inconsistencies we are all facing. 

4 minutes ago, BritTim said:

I believe what he was referring to was 90-day address reporting when on an extension of stay on the basis of marriage to a Thai.

I think this is what he meant also... OP should clarify. 

All you have to do is put her address in as your place of stay, then go online and find a legit flight number and fill that in. If you use the same airline that you flew in on, it will look legit. They won't question it. 

3 minutes ago, rumak said:

i hope it wasn't recently     ...

Just now, rumak said:

Falling in love.....................  or Today ?   different eras    

 

I'm pretty sure I dated that brunette. ????

Six Million Dollar Man...

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