Clifford S

As per a previous thread of mine I'm legalizing the split with the EX-girlfriend (not wife) mother of 3 my children...

So before we go to court I've offered 7,500thb per kid, 25-30k for a house in a gated community, 100% International schooling and 100% medical expenses etc etc

(And the kids would be with me 50% of the time also)

The Ex rejected it wanting a salary too as she doesn't want to work even though she's well (Masters) educated ...

So as per the title I just wondered what the max awarded Child support payments that BMs know of....

I did a 1 hour search last night and the max I found (cant remember the OP and think it was on TV and he was a teacher who the court awarded the Mother 25k for 2 kids which he then got reduced at the Supreme Court to 15k pcm.

I'm happy to pay house and kids child support, just not so keen for the EX to sit around drinking Mont Clair all day which is her desire ...

Cheers,

Cliffy.

17 minutes ago, RickG16 said:

It's a carvery, so they shouldn't have any problems keeping the meat hot??!!

 

Tell me more about the Robin Hood roast dinner... is this carvery or straight from the kitchen....

 

Cheers

Agreed re Carvery, let me know if you try it and its hot then OK !!!!

Robin Hood, sorry havent been there yet, was recommended by a  friend

I've spent plenty of time researching Sunday Roasts online, still find Sportsman hard to beat ...

Ps And there's Robin Hood too...

2 hours ago, RickG16 said:

Apologies as I've just seen there are a few threads on this already..... Looks like the Kiwi Pub has unanimously good reviews! Will head there unless there is somewhere similar nearer to soi 26....

Kiwi Sunday Roast was cold when I went there 1 month back.

My mate couldnt eat his and sent it back, I perceived with one plate and we left !

We were there about 1pm. I find Sportsman Soi 13 pretty good currently....

(But as carvery's go, I do miss Londoner and MollyMalones in Silom!)

On 8/2/2018 at 11:02 PM, swissie said:

This 5 year clause has found entry into courts of law more by taking "precedent cases" into the equasion. Going back for decades.

- 2 scenarios from personal experience.

During my stay in Rural-Thailand, I "witnessed" 3 divorces (Thai/Thai, no Farang involved). All 3 different judges were very much interested in the 5 year clause!
Also "witnessed" a Farang/Thai divorce in Bangkok. At first, the Legal-Eagles came up with "Only applicable to Thai-Nationals". But the Farang insisted on bringing this subject into the dealings (not his Thai-Lawyer). The Farang claiming "discrimination, unequal treatement before the law". Don't know the outcome, his e-mail address seems to have gone "inactive".

 Nevermind, the 5 year clause can be disregarded in your case as all other relevant factors would indicate that she is most certainly not entiteled to any of your properties. You can choose to be a "nice guy" and offer further child-support and possibly even include a little "pension" for her.

As an other poster and I have suggested: For now, just lean back and await the actions of "the other side" before you do anything at all. Or pick up the phone and call her (not her lawyer) and explain to her that co-operation on her part would be more beneficial for her than confrontation.
Keep you upper lip stiff, Cliff!
Cheers.

Hi Swissie

In the above post you mentioned 3 divorces, where these REAL DIVORCES ie between a married couple of was it a separation from two people who had lived together more than the 5 years magic number ?

Cheers

Cliffy

4 hours ago, LivinginKata said:

Phuket Residence Form.pdf

 

Here self registration form

And do you sign the form yourself as HOUSE-MASTER ? And just include the name on the individual on the front page or the additional page listing names ...

Ps Cheers !

59 minutes ago, Jimi007 said:

This is the form you need and you need to have the landlord or property manager sign it. Or get power of attorney to do it yourself from what I have read. Here is the correct form. Although I did sign up and do an online one as my landlord died. His son signed one for me as well as he has power of attorney and provided the documents, but I wasn't asked for a new one. I was asked back in 2015 and that one seems good still according to their computer system.   

http://www.immigrationbangkok.com/files/visa_forms/tm30.pdf

 

Thanks Jimi, I'll check with our Property Managers tomorrow, Yeh I've never been asked for one before but would appear a Phuket thing currently ...

Many Thanks LivingKata, I might give the online one a try, the form looks a bit different from the one they handed out today....

Evening BMs

So I spent yesterday searching/reading/completing my Retirement Visa one year extension and this morning compiling bank paperwork etc.

I was reasonably nervously/doubtfully/confident I had what it takes to get an extension but failed with the TM30 form.

Didn't need it last year or the year before.

Was told go The big room with a TM30 form "House registration house registration". The big room was 99% full, as it was 2pm I doubted I'd get processed in time and and so did the Volunteer police.

Considering heading back tomorrow, question is I have a 30 year lease agreement on an apartment and we're in court with the new Thai money lending Land owner ...

So who can sign and HouseMaster Owner or Possessor of Residence ? Do they even check ?

Many thanks

Cliffy

Ps Or doesnt anyone know a good Visa agent (but not silly price) who can do the queuing for me ?

Great thanks Mattd and Tanoshi ...

Morning

I just flew back into Phuket  this week after a few days abroad. My 90 day reporting was due whilst I was away. Does the TM6 mean I dont have to do the 90 day report? I've just tried on line (twice) and get the following message eventhough I did a 90 day report online 3 months ago :

For further information regarding The 90-day Notification Report Service,

please contact the Immigration Branch Office in your residence area.

My retirement Visa current extension expires 1st September. I believe I can get the new extension upto 45 days before the current expires. So I guess I could try for my extension tomorrow or next week and I'm assuming this will include a 90 day report or do I go to the 90 day reporting room also ?

Many thanks 

Cliff

Quick update ...

Didnt go Japan, kids didnt fancy the 6 hours flight so popped over to Singapore for the week. (took ALL relevant documents with me incl. the letter from the Mother.), presented Thai passports at DMK, Immigration lady just said to my kids in Thai wheres your Mum, they said she's in Bangkok, and we were on out way...

I still think I'd take all docs with me each time just in case though ....

7 hours ago, swissie said:

This 5 year clause has found entry into courts of law more by taking "precedent cases" into the equasion. Going back for decades.

- 2 scenarios from personal experience.

During my stay in Rural-Thailand, I "witnessed" 3 divorces (Thai/Thai, no Farang involved). All 3 different judges were very much interested in the 5 year clause!
Also "witnessed" a Farang/Thai divorce in Bangkok. At first, the Legal-Eagles came up with "Only applicable to Thai-Nationals". But the Farang insisted on bringing this subject into the dealings (not his Thai-Lawyer). The Farang claiming "discrimination, unequal treatement before the law". Don't know the outcome, his e-mail address seems to have gone "inactive".

Nevermind, the 5 year clause can be disregarded in your case as all other relevant factors would indicate that she is most certainly not entiteled to any of your properties. You can choose to be a "nice guy" and offer further child-support and possibly even include a little "pension" for her.

As an other poster and I have suggested: For now, just lean back and await the actions of "the other side" before you do anything at all. Or pick up the phone and call her (not her lawyer) and explain to her that co-operation on her part would be more beneficial for her than confrontation.
Keep you upper lip stiff, Cliff!
Cheers.

Once again many thanks for your background knowledge and thoughts Swissie ....

On 8/1/2018 at 7:00 AM, BritManToo said:

He's already trying to cheat you, you shouldn't be talking to this guy.

I'm with Swissie, no contact with any other party unless served with a court summons.

Thanks Swissie and BritManToo....

Still think the 5 years living together requires further research.

Some Farang must have faced this before here in LOS with an EX, if Not, I can relax perhaps !

Cheers

CLIFFY

Thanks Swissie,

although she's not financially well off I'm sure some of the family or other EX-wives will help financially....

Looks like I need to investigate this 5 years living together/or not more thoroughly....

Mind you she has declared on a Tabiian Baan she lived in one of the properties whilst my retirement visas have been listed as a different property for about  8 years. Will this help when it comes to "the same roof" discussions I wonder ....

B Regards

Cliffy

6 minutes ago, swissie said:

Under these circumstances: A Thai Man would just walk away and support the kids on a voluntary basis. Legally, she has no leg to stand on.
Caution: As long as your lawyer is Thai, he may be tempted to "partially satisfy the lady" (after all she is also Thai and you are only a rich Farang).
Be prepaired that your lawyer and her lawyer will co-operate and eventually present you with a "mutually satisfiying settlement". You can accept or decline. (Or accept part of it, up to you).
Cheers.

Thanks Swissie, actually I've known my Thai lawyer for 15 years, so I do believe he's on my side.

although in one of his emails he did state :

the court will consider that two of you as a non-registered partnership while two of you lived together

Which makes me a tad concerned !...

1 minute ago, swissie said:

Must be more specific:
- Not LEGALLY married (only Temple wedding or none at all)?
- Not having lived with her under the same roof for the last 5 years uninterrupted?
- What kind of "a few properties in Thailand" are you talking about? Is she involved in any way concerning those properties? (Property on her land, for example.)
Without those specifics, advice can not be given.
Cheers.

 

Hi Swissie,

No Wedding at all, not legal or Temple, hence no documentation etc.

Actually we have been under the same roof but not at the same time. ie for about the past 3 years we'd do a one month on one month off rota !

She hadnt even seen the kids for the past 6 months, just came back one month ago and decided she wanted to stay...

Properties incl one condo, one leasehold apartment, and a couple of properties held in Thai companies of which she is not on, and nothing to do with her with respect to any land of hers (she doesn't actually have any assets at all)....

Cheers

CLIFFY

Hi

So first let me say I am checking with my Thai lawyer, just thought I'd like to hear from any members who've been what I'm about to go through ....

So I was with my ex for about 10 years. We were NEVER married. We do have 2 kids age 6 & 12. Sort of lived apart most of the time for the past few years with both of us taking care of the kids and me taking care of ALL the costs of everything. Now that I don't want to live in the same house anymore I've received a letter from her lawyer claiming part of my assets which are basically a few properties here in Thailand.

I haven't worked in 15 years and bought the properties with cash I brought in from the UK. Ps She hasn't worked either !

So 2 questions ...

What about UK assets ?

Anyone been in the same before here in LOS, did it go to court and if so what was the split ?

Cheers

Cliffy

1 hour ago, mikesensei said:

Hello Cliff. I notice the mother is the ex wife. Is she willing to sign a document? Also the Japanese immigration authorities may well phone her up  make sure everything is OK. Its doubtful but Japanese authorities may insist on a translation of the documents. I would make sure its in English as Thai may completely throw them. The Airline may well give you the heads up on what to take,because if Japan refuses entry the airline have to repatriate you ie pay.

Yes she'll sign, I think....Might not risk it otherwise !

Ours was 15 days (and a Sorry NO Visa) recently ...

Received SMS to come collect from VFS

4 hours ago, mikesensei said:

Hello Cliff. I am living in Japan at the moment. If you and your children have British Passports then I would use these.

You will get a 3 month visa automatically in Japan. However if the kids name dont match yours they may ask for extra proof. A photocopy of their birth certificates will help. If thats not enough they may interview the kids away from you. It might be a good idea to prepare your children for this interview. It might be something inane like what music does Dad like? Whats his favourite colour? What does Mummy call him? I have had this done to me and daughter in the UK.

If they have Thai passports with a different family name to you this might set off red flags upon departure and arrival.

Make sure this matches the plane tickets. You may also have to show ID cards and complete a departure form for them.

Return tickets and hotel bookings will also be useful.

Thanks Mike, One Brit passport has expired so the plan is to use the  2 Thai passports which are in my family name ( the kids have British first names too)

3 hours ago, SGD said:

Not true. Bit of an urban rumor in fact. That said, nothing lost in taking it as seemingly the mother has custody.

 

I've never needed it, from a babe in arms through aged 11.

 

However, why don't the kids have UK passports ?

 

 

They do, just that one has expired ...

Maybe best I get written consent then just in case ....

Hi

So I'm a Brit and would like to take my half Thai/Half Brit kids age 9&11 to Japan for a holiday without the ex (Thai Mum). Looks like the kids can get in for upto 15 days without a Visa. I dont need a Visa. Just wonder if I'll have any trouble at Thai immigration leaving Thailand with the kids without the mother perhaps ? Any similar experiences anybody ?

Thanks,

Cliff.