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I see Putin will not be attending the funeral. What a classy guy.

33 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

All governments' statements are carefully worded, ghost-scripted and often far from the true feelings of the person in charge. This thread is about Gorbachev, try to stick to it.

Sir, ALL of us. We can fight elsewhere to our heart's content. Why not just pause, pay our respects to a Great Statesman, then take our quarrels elsewhere.

On 8/30/2022 at 10:39 PM, Gaccha said:

For the benefit of non-Americans:

 

After many months of attacks on the American Imperial Empire's ruling regime's buildings, costing billions and dozens of deaths, as well as the ruling regime's rapid acceptance of systemic racism and brutal oppression, even to the extent of senior regime members bending onto their knees to symbolise their failure, the knocking down of its sacred idols, as well as promises for the regime to defund its forces of oppression, a small yet brave group emerged in January 2020 to finally overthrow this regime and its parasitical elite class and their cosy sinecures.  

 

The underclass group bravely confronted this oppressive, militarised regime and moved into its symbolic power centre, obstructing the fake kabuki theatre of political change where one group of elite briefly swaps out for another group. This 'bastille day', so to speak, went ahead with little property damage and few casualties. Hark! The angels had been kind.

 

Yet at that moment, victory was snatched from their arms, as those pretending to curse this oppressor class, turned on a dime, and confronted those who sought its end.

 

For it turned out, that it was all just theatre, and those loud cries of racism and sexism and other such jibber jabber was intended to simply divide the masses and had simply got out of control.

 

Years later, America remains submerged in the stench of an elite vampirically living off its underclass, and well-intentioned but low-information voters, who think justice has been achieved, celebrating the sanctity of their pitiful dying empire. 

Fair play to you. So do you embrace the workers and peasants owning the key to production? Standing together against exploitation of the poorest? A welfare state for all of your compatriots who fall on hard times?

2 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

If every Thai who is disappointed with Prayut and really wanted him out, got off their backside and marched to Bangkok this government would be out.

The government can handle a few hundred young protesters but couldn't manage thousands/millions.

 

I couldn't agree more, but how to actually organise that? Plus the death toll could be horrifying if the military are prepared to kill as many people as it takes to stay in power. And remember the 'safety valve' is no longer there.

13 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Thais are too lethargic.

And averse to being butchered like animals on the street by those who are supposedly there to protect them.

1 hour ago, Scott said:

They are advised to seek asylum in the first country that follows the protocols on granting asylum but they are not required to seek asylum in any country.   In countries that do not resettle those granted refugee status, once they are deemed to be a refugee they are referred to a 3rd country.  If they have family connections in a particular country, they are referred to that country for consideration first.  

 

I worked with refugees in both SE Asia as well as in Turkey.   Thailand, for example, does not accept immigrants for asylum.  They are not a signatory to the UN protocols and most screening was done by the UN and resettlement countries (the US being the main one).   If a person was granted refugee status, they were referred to a country with close family ties.  

 

I am less well informed on the overall picture in Turkey because I worked primarily with those who were referred for resettlement to the US.  

 

Family unification is a the goal in refugee resettlement.  

Turkey was just a country I plucked from my a$$.

Millions of desperate people out there because of worldwide war, famine and poverty. But what do we hear from our (mainly British) baby boomers on this thread? The ones who prospered with their free education, dental and healthcare? They are alright, and the hell with anyone else.

I hope for a rude awakening for them.

5 minutes ago, AhFarangJa said:

Proton, you missed a zero out, it is closer to 400 quid a week.

This is the same government that said my parents could live on 160 pounds a week pension after working all their lives, and fighting a war to keep U.K. free....

From the horse's mouth:

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

1 minute ago, overherebc said:

Dont the rules say they should apply for asylum in the first available country they arrive in?

Anyway in real terms they are economic immigrants, read from that, only want what they can get for nothing.

Do these rules state that they have to apply for asylum FOR that first safe country or WHILE IN that first safe country?

So if they are in Turkey, say, but have family / connections in the UK, how can they apply for UK asylum while in Turkey?

3 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Does that include illegal immigrants who choose to ignore the laws and rules on immigration and arrive in uk to effectively scam the system?

How can one legally set foot on UK soil to request asylum?

How can one request asylum in the UK outside of the UK?

1 minute ago, proton said:

Tow them halfway then.

And back to the UK they come, unless you are advocating machine gunning them all to death.

Complex problems do not beget simple solutions, that's why we are where we are.

7 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Even immigrants have human rights and protection. 

Much to the chagrin of the baby boomers on here who had life handed to them on a silver platter....

5 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Lift them out their rubber boats and then take them straight back and drop them off.

Yes, I understand that, but who would be transporting them?

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Perhaps their former colonial master after leaving them impoverished. 

I meant, who would transport them back across the Channel?

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

And here's something on topic

 

truss getting called out on her economic illiteracy again...

 

''Liz Truss’s plans to tackle the cost of living crisis by slashing VAT across the board will do little to help those struggling to pay food bills and benefit richer households substantially more, Rishi Sunak’s team has claimed.

 

The frontrunner in the Conservative leadership race was accused of considering a “regressive” and “flawed” move that could cost the exchequer up to £38bn a year, while the government faces calls to offer more support with rising energy costs.''

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/28/liz-truss-vat-cut-rishi-sunak-cost-of-living

I think (well, hope) she will HAVE to do something drastic about the cost of living crisis. Surely even she cannot be so dim as to recognise that if she doesn't, it will be political suicide for her. And within weeks, not months or years.

The ERG won't care, but the prospect of a destitute, cold and hungry Britain desperately shivering in the dark at Christmas, might focus a few minds.

(Cue laughter emoticon...)

The woman is a fool.

On 8/25/2022 at 8:43 AM, smedly said:

and who # # # elected him ????

 

democracy - these # bring shame on the very idea, rotten to the core

 

 

Are the Thai people really this stupid, oh but but we get to vote in an election, what they haven't  quite realized is that they did not elect the people who are in charge 

 

The court ruling should have triggered an immediate election, just a pity an election will make no difference

Err, you were one of the most vociferous supporters of the junta for ages. I remember your calling student protesters at the time of the coup, "thugs".

You may get to reinvent yourself, but some of us remember. Now: will you finally denounce the Chan-ocha coup of 2014?