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One in five Chinese EV owners wouldn’t buy another A report by McKinsey China has shown significant disillusionment among Chinese electric car owners in 2023, with 22% stating they wouldn’t consider new energy vehicles (NEVs) for their next car, The dissatisfaction among owners in smaller cities stems from inconvenient charging infrastructure, highlighting a major challenge faced by electric vehicle adoption in these regions. However, this growth has outpaced infrastructure development, particularly in the provision of charging points, leading to grievances among electric vehicle owners, the report said. https://chinaeconomicreview.com/one-in-five-chinese-ev-owners-wouldnt-buy-another/

Last October in the Facebook groups I did see approx 10-20 Byd atto 3 appear from owners that want to sell and buy the Seal model used prices advertised were from B800,000 -B1,100,000 the top end pricing was very close to the official retail price for the extended version Problem for both sellers and buyers as finance wouldn't lend on used ev payment options were limited to cash or taking over the finance contract (Can be expensive if original buyer went for low down payment option and finance repayments over 72 months So some people took a B400k hit on a few months old car because they wanted the seal model I have seen recently someone wants to offload their November Byd Atto3 model problem for them total outstanding on their finance agreement was B1.3million baht no-one is going to pay that amount on a used 2023 model when a brand new atto3 extended can be purchased for B949,900

Electric vehicle market faces risk from non-performing loans Pinyo further explained that if these seized EVs were to be sold in the second-hand car market, it’s unlikely that financial institutions would provide loan schemes for potential buyers of used EVs. The lack of confidence in granting loans in the second-hand EV market stems from the market’s expected small size and the continued fluctuation in new EV prices, making it difficult for banks to calculate the value of used EVs, said Pinyo. https://thethaiger.com/news/business/electric-vehicle-market-faces-risk-from-non-performing-loans

The Tesla website shows $6,000 gas savings over a 5 year period 10,000 miles per year https://www.tesla.com/modely/design?financeModalTab=gas_savings#overview if the buyer qualifies for a federal tax credit then $7,500 would be taken off the $42,990 base price So potentially a combined saving of $13,500 from the $42,990 base price

Not everyone on this forum would consider them to be EV's This number can be divided by categories as follow: Battery EV: 120,719 units; Hybrid EV (benzene): 326,178; Hybrid EV (diesel): 11,596; Hybrid EV (LPG/benzene): 400; Plug-in hybrid EV (benzene): 53,172; Plug-in hybrid EV (diesel): 278. https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40033855

automotive manufacturers have no input into the price of fuel be it petrol, diesel or electric Even when the price of fuels go down end customers see little difference as governments normal use any long term fall in prices to increase they % of taxes built into the price In 2020 the price of oil in Texas when down to -$37.63 per barrel but is bounced back the next day so end customers wouldn't have noticed anything https://dwfgroup.com/it-it/news-and-insights/insights/2020/4/oil-prices-dropped-to-negative-figures-on-monday-20-april

Doesn't appear to be a problem for Toyota and they don't appear to becoming insignificant They have announced a change in their Forecast of Financial Results as there selling more vehicles than they expected Net sales are expected to increase due to the depreciation of the yen beyond expectations as well as continued high levels of production and sales in the Materials Handling Equipment Segment and the Automobile Segment. All kinds of profits remain unchanged from the previous forecast reflecting the impact of engine certification issue, such as the compensation to customers and suppliers associated with the shipment suspension of engines, although the increase in net sales will contribute to the increase in profit. https://www.toyota-industries.com/news/2024/03/29/008641/index.html Toyota reports 20% jump in first-quarter US auto sales https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/toyota-reports-20-jump-first-quarter-us-auto-sales-2024-04-02/ Why would any automotive manufacturer entered the current EV market when the current market is one of price cuts I expect there will be a number of smaller EV manufacturers that will simply file for bankruptcy over the next 5 years What EV manufacturers and EV owners require is price stability when you purchase a vehicle you expected to devalue over a number of years what you don't expect is the manufacturer to increase that devaluation by huge price cuts because their products aren't selling in the numbers that they require EV manufacturers seem to be doing a very good job of sabotaging the uptake of EV’s with price wars Out of Interest did MG agree to your price protection guarantee For people that are interested in buying an EV what is holding them back is the current price war as you yourself have stated you wouldn't be happy to pay 50% more for a vehicle

I stated that "Ev evangelist's don't want automotive manufacturers to offer their customers an alternative choice to EV's its EV's or nothing I think that statement is correct As to the Mirai From the article Many of the Mirai owners I spoke with made it clear that they love their cars. With its Lexus underpinnings, the current-generation Mirai has been described to me as a "dream to drive." What they don't love is the infrastructure supporting it and the way it was represented to them before they purchased it. https://insideevs.com/news/708375/toyota-mirai-hydrogen-stations-close/#:~:text= we will have to see how the court case goes at the end of day car manufacturers be it electric or hydrogen are not in the refueling business if all the EV charging stations suddenly decided to shutdown for whatever reason then EV owners would be screwed

I think you will find that the preferred policy of the Thai Government is "You can buy what you want, so long as you can afforded it and the purchase doesn't over burden your existing household debt we don't mind if you buy EV or ICE vehicles we would prefer your choice of vehicle to be made in Thailand Srettha said Thailand would remain a hub of ICE vehicle production during the transitional period. Thai government agencies would continue to collaborate with Japanese ICE automakers on support measures, he told Kishida. https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/policies/40032908 Hence subsidy on Hybrid extended for 2 more years

I have owned a trickle charger such as this one AA Car Battery Solar Charger Maintainer Conditioner - AA Solar Charger https://www.care4car.com/12-volt-electrical/aa-car-battery-solar-charger-maintainer-conditioner.html The main difference between dumb trickle chargers and smart trickle chargers is dumb trickle chargers will continue to charge even if the battery is 100% where smart trickle chargers stop charging when the battery reaches 100% Look forward to you providing links to your claims of A dumb trickle charger will bring a drained battery back up to charge, everytime. And it is the method battery manufactures recommend. "

Why don't you provide links that support your claims of "A dumb trickle charger will bring a drained battery back up to charge, everytime. And it is the method battery manufactures recommend. "

trickle chargers don't bring a drained battery up to charge Trickle chargers work at levels where the battery is between 90% and 95% and will top up the battery to 100% and then will cut off This article states "They can also fail to charge completely dead batteries." https://lithiumhub.com/trickle-chargers-do-i-need-one/#:~:text= CTEK MXS 5.0 is a battery charger and Maintainer , the maintainer only kicks in when the battery has reached 95% https://www.ctek.com/uk/battery-chargers-12v-24v/mxs-5-0-uk

A trickle charger is not designed to charge a drained battery I used a solar trickle charger in the (UK which is not known for sun everyday) and I left my car standing for more than 100 days and the solar trickle charger top up the battery every day , battery drain while my car was left standing was due to Car security system A good trickle charger will cut off once the battery has reached 100% I plugged the trickle charger into the car OBD port as that was always on Personally I think a solar trickle charger is a brilliant product if your leaving a car standing for long periods https://lithiumhub.com/trickle-chargers-do-i-need-one/#:~:text=

Here is the article and link that you forgot to provide The coin-sized prototype is still in laboratory phase, but to make yourself an idea, the automaker managed a fivefold increase in power output regarding the technology it had in 2012. These batteries are called “solid state” because the liquid electrolyte used in nickel-metal hydride and lithium ion batteries is replaced by a solid ceramic or polymer electrolyte. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/toyota-to-offer-high-performance-solid-state-batteries-in-2020-90501.html Toyota sets out advanced battery technology roadmap https://media.toyota.co.uk/toyota-sets-out-advanced-battery-technology-roadmap/

Chinese cars imported into the UK are currently subject to tariffs of 10% under World Trade Organisation rules. Its all vehicles not just EV's Thailand market share of imports into the EU is small at 0.7% If Thailand wants to export to the EU I think they will mention current Thailand import tariffs on EU cars entering Thailand of between 40% to 80% https://www.acea.auto/figure/eu-motor-vehicle-imports-main-countries-of-origin-by-value/

MG ZS EV in the UK prices range from £30,495-£35,495 or Thai Baht 1.4 million to 1.6 million Byd seal UK prices range from £45,695 to £48,695 or Thai Baht B 2.1 million to B2.233 million approx £20,000 difference for entry level Byd seal compared to UK import tariffs into the UK is currently 10%

More so with EV only manufacturers as they have limited options MG can scale back production on EV's and change production lines to produce ICE and Hybrid EV only manufacturers don't have than option its either reduce price or reduce sales

EV makers offer deep discounts as Thai auto market weakens Oversupply and feeble demand hint at a coming price war https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/EV-makers-offer-deep-discounts-as-Thai-auto-market-weakens?

Doesn't appear to be a problem for Toyota They have announced a change in their Forecast of Financial Results as there selling more vehicles than they expected Net sales are expected to increase due to the depreciation of the yen beyond expectations as well as continued high levels of production and sales in the Materials Handling Equipment Segment and the Automobile Segment. All kinds of profits remain unchanged from the previous forecast reflecting the impact of engine certification issue, such as the compensation to customers and suppliers associated with the shipment suspension of engines, although the increase in net sales will contribute to the increase in profit. https://www.toyota-industries.com/news/2024/03/29/008641/index.html Toyota reports 20% jump in first-quarter US auto sales https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/toyota-reports-20-jump-first-quarter-us-auto-sales-2024-04-02/

There are many different types of subsidies The statement "Since 1/1/2023 China has not subsidised the manufacture or sale of any EV's. " is incorrect Since 1/1/2023 There have been no subsidies available for the purchase of EV's by customers however there are tax breaks available to customers who purchase EV's extending to 2027 China Extends NEV Tax Reduction and Exemption Policy to 2027 https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-extends-nev-tax-reduction-and-exemption-policy-to-2027/ There are huge subsidies provided to the EV automotive manufacturers Between January 2023 and June 2023 Among EV assemblers, Shanghai-listed SAIC Motor was the largest recipient of government assistance, bagging over 2 billion yuan in subsidies, almost double from a year ago. BYD, China's leader in EV sales and set to surpass Volkswagen this year as the country's top-selling auto brand, closely followed SAIC on the subsidy list. It received 1.78 billion yuan in the first half, or close to three times as much as the year before https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Electric-cars-in-China/China-gives-EV-sector-billions-of-yuan-in-subsidies

Personally I tend to believe Toyota more than ev evangelist's Toyota will build different vehicles that meet their customer requirements and will offer them choice of types of power source for those vehicles Ev evangelist's don't want automotive manufacturers to offer their customers choice is EV's nothing else

Interest rate does depend on % of down payment and how many months installments As you can see here you can pay a whopping 15.81% per year https://www.motorist.co.th/en/article/2592/car-loan-interest-rates-in-thailand-for-all-banks-in-2024

Your best option is if you know a Thai person that has a facebook account is join the facebook group for that car brand post in Thai that you are looking for model x colour x if there are plenty of cars around you will get replies from dealers , Make sure all replies to facebook page are in Thai so as far as the dealer is concerned its a Thai person that is buying don't mention how you are going finance until the end of negotiation after you have received the initial reply back from your post they will want a phone number make sure you give the number of a Thai person Free Insurance , extended warranty service plan are available to cash buyers but only when you have hooked them in and you let them know that a different dealer or brand without naming the dealer or brand is willing to offer you what you require if they are not interested in a sale You are correct they are more interested in finance only deals as that is where they get the bulk of their commission With Thai buyers they will always suggest lowest possible down payment and spread the finance over 7 or 8 years Government has set rules for new car interest rate at max 10% per year so on a 8 year loan deal that nearly the cost of paying for 2 cars but only buying one At the moment dealers are selling cars in a depressed market so there should be offers on the table

Spec out a table height length width with without shelves, with without castors and then ask your partner to get quotes from local wood shop its unlikely that you will see your specs table in any shop and cost should be lower and better quality than any shop bought

32.95 vs 67.05 I not sure how you can state Nearly a 50/50 vote as the difference is 34.1%