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1 hour ago, kenk24 said:how would that help in setting a fair comparison?
Compare to Cambodia instead, a more fair comparison.
A country's wealth, average income, unemployment rate, must be in consideration to make a fair and honest comparison.
I think, with your question, you will not accept any alternative to Thailand.
Not until immigration tell you to leave within 7 days.
I was a hardcore defender for Thailand for more than a decade living there. When immigration started their first frequent changes, I started to explore alternative country for relocation. I opened my mind for a new culture, less comfort, and easier steady visa.
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11 minutes ago, Letseng said:
Can you afford the treatment?
Hospitals are often nice and new but doctors can't diagnose a hookworm infestation in a kid.
Yes, doctors and diagnose are not up to western standard. I visited chemotherapy room, and I was instantly 'back to the 1970s'. For many the lack of western medicine is what frustrates us the most. The huge population and lack of hospitals are very obvious. Bare minimum of staff in hospitals incl doctors, are below par.
Expect 15000 - 25000 peso (288-480$) per 24 hrs admitted to hospital for more serious condition.
Minor conditions with treatment 2000-5000 peso. (38-96$).
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13 minutes ago, Letseng said:
But not all pinays are like this.
Not all Thai females are out to fleece you either.
Absolutely agree on this.
However we all know that many many foreigners in TH built house in the past, bought brand new car, and was kicked out.
It happen in all countries worldwide, here too in a far less numbers. Earlier in this topic, many painted TH as much better country, without consideration for that TH has a GDP per capita more than twice of the PH. Very unfair comparison.
So please excuse me when I compare the few things that's actually better or cheaper here in PH.
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1 minute ago, Deerculler said:
Thank you very much for your postings on PH.
I will continue to read them.
The only thing I would like to ask if you can.
When you are talking about the cost of things.
I would like to see it in Peso’s.
The reason is that it is easier to convert to my own currency instead from the US dollar and it give me a better picture to work from.
Thank you again.
Will do. What items objects do you have in mind?
Thank you.
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PH unemployment rate and the future.
Unemployment has since early 2000 seen a remarkable decline that seems to continue.
Building sector obviously have a boom in major cities. In Cebu city, more skyscrapers are piling up month by month.
2-4 BR spacious luxury condos price more than 2 Mill USD (more than 100 mill peso) has been sold. 1 of these are located on top of Ayala center, with direct elevator down to Cebu's #1 supermarket Rustans, and more are available in Cebu.
Private housing estates boom following, also in higher price range 100.000 - 200.000$ (5.200.000 - 10.400.000 Peso)
Although I'm sure it's huge grey numbers about unemployment, the country is moving up and forward.
If only more quality hospitals was built and run under foreign management, PH would attract expats who require top medical care.
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ExpatPH
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Huh. It's just one mans opinion, doesnt matter until we see what new changes the remain of this year will bring.
At one point, immigration and those higher up will realize that loss of Expats lead to less new houses built all over the country, less new vehicles bought cash, less employees in factories, and transport and tourist industry.
At one point, they will see it, and realize the value of expats.
That was my 5 minute day dream.
One must have a Plan B for alternative relocation prepared these days.
The good and easy days are def over.
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Driving a vehicle in Cebu.
Car and motorcycle rental in a limited scale. Tourist and expats dont use them or need them in the city. 7000 Taxi meter and new Grab car taxi available.
In province most expats buy a moped or motorcycle. Only a few own a car. Moped and motorcycle are cheaper here in PH than TH. Some up to 1000$ less. Check out 'motortrade Philippines' for prices.
On Bohol island next to Cebu, many tourist rent a motorcycle and explore the island. Police here was very friendly to tourist, so one could know ahead about driving culture, and usual spots for checkpoints.
Traffic in Cebu move slowly most of the time 30-60 km/h, no racing motorcycles. New strict laws about use of mobile phone, and lane splitting. Traffic officers on most main roads in out of the city. These officers are strict, no excuse to be a foreigner. Cars are almost never stopped at checkpoints, only motorcycles. We know where checkpoints are, a indication is a huge number of motorcycles parked on the side of the road, with the driver on the mc. They know its a checkpoint just ahead, and wait for it to end. Many dont have a DL or proper registration. Registration of new motorcycle takes more than a year, explains why so many drive illegal with only 'for registration' plate. The law states that brand new motorcycle can only be driven until 7 days after registration. Then one must wait for registration documents. After million of complaints, they came up with a new temporary system and plates, only with digits. This temp plate can take 1-6 months to get. Depends on dealership and their connection to LTO.
Drunk driving are a big problem late night. I had many close calls. Never seen any alcohol test been performed, or speed control, on Cebu island. Only outside city limit can I reach more than 60-70 km/h. Traffic is just to heavy within city, lack of city planning.
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ExpatPH
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3 hours ago, stravers said:Due to supply and demand factors, these girls have few choices. It's usually down to you or Somchai the taxi. Great she's with you and devoted but what's her better options?
That's our western mindset, beliefs and logic. Forget thinking like a westerner, and try start thinking like a Asian. Many things becomes easier that way, and we westerners become less ignorant.
A call center agent here, salary can be 400-600$ per month.
A kitchen chef here, salary can be 1.000$ per month.
A web designer here can salary can be 2.300$ per month.
Not all of them a poor and 'must find a foreigner'. More people get a good education now, than just few years ago.
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2 hours ago, stravers said:
Here in Quebec, Canada, immigrants learn French or face a huge uphill battle gaining employment.
It would not surprise me if Thai immigration added the language test hurdle and it's not out of order.
People will look back and say "remember how great 2019 was?"
If that would happen, how many would qualify?
Less than 10%? Less than 5%?
Gaining employment, I can understand the reason one must learn their language
Be a tourist, TH prefer we dont speak their language for many reasons.
But TH is TH, when is comes to visa regulations, anything can happen.
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6 years relationship with a Pinay.
Short version: I never been asked for money. No sick buffalo. No family member who needed emergency money help. No request for a house. 6 years on and counting.
Long version: we met at hotel I stayed, she worked there. We started talking and within short time, I thought this could become something.
I changed to another hotel, so we now could date without worry that she would be fired.
After 4 months relationship, I asked her if she would quit her job, and live together with me. I offered to compensate her salary 120$ per months. After few days she said yes.
I met her parents after almost a year, after she had asked me a few times. Meeting her family was a breeze. Her father was a hard working man 7am to 7pm, 7 days a week. We got a good connection instantly, and until this day, he's a fantastic man. Mother was in charge. Had her piggery as income and a small money lending business.
Thrue the last 6 years I known her, she has saved a lot of money for me. She know where to get lowest prices, she negotiate like a expert, she hardly use any money on herself. Sends half of her allowance to family. She learned to cook western food, she do laundry and make breakfast by the time I wake up. Over time she received some gifts from me, nothing that would break any budget, but very appreciated.
I frequently travelled to other countries, often back to Thailand, where I always bought lots of clothes for my gf and also to her siblings. For them to get clothes from another country, was like a christmas every time. Feels good to give gifts that get so appreciated. A typical person in province, do not buy many new clothes per year. To receive clothes that no one had, was a much better present than money. Lots of chocolate from Thailand as well, and anyone who know how much they love chocolate here, can imagine their smiles and happiness.
We had our ups and downs, and she always ask, when you going to marry me. She's been a good help last 2 years when I got a medical condition and in and out of hospitals. Sleeping on a bench for a week without anything isn't comfortable, never a word of complaint.
She tolerated my late nights out with the guys, she tolerated my smoking, she tolerated many minor things. She tolerated that I didnt propose yet, while shes eagerly hoping.
I had previous long lasting relationship in Thailand, that felt more like a business deal than love and mutual respect.
House: check. Car: check. Motorcycle: check. Gold: check. Hand out family: check. Check. Check.
Here in PH I feel its more real love, she sacrified her job and future advancements possibilities, and her dream to work overseas.
House: no request. Car: no request. Motorcycle: no request. Hand out family: no request.
She had access to my wallet, local ATM card and also my visa card. Never a problem. She has proven herself many times to be totally honest and loyal.
I love Thailand and its beautiful ladies, but I trust my Pinay more, and she cost me peanuts in comparison.
Regards
ExpatPH
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2 minutes ago, swissie said:
On a more serious note. As I mentioned before, your Info's concerning Phil are outstanding. You may have noticed that there are other Threads floating around with regard to "Leaving Thailand" and moving somewhere else. (One Thread focusing on South America has drawn a lot of attention). But nobody delivering comprehensive Info's about any of those countries as you did concerning Phil.
- Checking out SA Countries is like playing Detective on the Internet.
Folks, interested in SA would be delighted to have an Info-Source comparable to what you deliver in connection with the Philippines.
I mean it. Well done.
Thank you so much for those nice words of appreciation, swissie.
I also mentioned before to join our local forums, for more opinions than mine.
Colombia, Costa Rica. Dominican republic. Latin America, so many options. Personal safety is a big issue also at those locations. And who knows about hospitals.
Repeat our local forums related to PH.
Livingincebuforums
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Thanks again swissie.
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24 minutes ago, swissie said:It's like a verdict: Few smokers will re-locate to Phil.
Smokers. Who need smokers?
We have 10.000s jeepneys!
Guaranteed better than 2nd hand smoking.????
(Sorry for my late night humor)
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1 minute ago, swissie said:
Do you think the Smoking-Ban will be lifted if the current "Head of State" takes up smoking again?
Don't hold your breath.
Not until after next election, and even after that, the political correctness and conservative culture, I would assume that the smoking ban will last forever.
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27 minutes ago, swissie said:
Question: Are Bars, Restaurants, Hotels "public places"?
----------------------------------------------Every inch of the country is 'Public place' and Non - smoking (except private property) unless,
- 'Designated smoking area'
- Tiny minority of restaurants that got exemption from local city hall.
In Cebu city I only know bar area at TGIF, and designated smoking area on 4th level Ayala center near The Social restaurant.
However the smoking guards stop work at 6pm, so we do smoke on the streets after that time, but look out for police and other officials.
Angeles less strict, according to tourists who been there.
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25 minutes ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:
I've been trying to find condos around Fields vicinity, but couldn't really find anything that is comfortably walking distance. Any idea if any exist? Ideally with a pool and a gym, but not 100% necessary. Speaking of gym - I assume they exist - any idea where and prices?
Ask on local forums.
Livingincebuforums
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On local forums we had and still have a never ending banter, can you live for 600-800$ per month in PH.
I was one of the naysayers, used to city life and nightlife. Until I lived for a longer time in the province. Then I realized It's absolutely possible without suffering, or 'going on local' food only.
I got my foreign groceries from city as well, All in, my low spending of only 615$ per month.
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5 minutes ago, Frankri said:
A/C is included ??
A/C units all places I lived.
A/C running cost included under electric
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My monthly spending over the years. Some examples.
Rented 80sqm 2 floor house in the province next to the sea. Rent 270$ electric water 80$, grocerys 95$, visa 50$, gf support 120$,
total 615$ per month
Rented 26 sqm fully furnished studio in city center 480$ incl fiber internet and cable tv, electric water 65$. Dine out daily 575$, grocerys 95$, visa 50$, gf support 120$, transport 30$
total 1.415$ per month.
Rented furnished 1 floor of a 2 floor house 60sqm outskirts within city limit rent 230$, electric water 75$, transport 75$, grocerys 150$, dine out 200$, gf support 120$ cabletv 35$, visa 50$, total 935$ per month.
Lowest spending per month 615$.
Highest spending per month as single 1.500$
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ExpatPH
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1 minute ago, Danielsiam said:
getting amoxicilline exemple maybe only half of pharmacy will give it without prescription..
And easier 1 hour outside the city.
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I can drop by another day and ask if they have 40mg, if you need that dosage.
Maybe i get a photo of the box as well.
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