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BlackArtemis
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I worked at a Gov't school and we had a few foreign students.
On that note, If I had kids would do everything in my power to ensure they never went to one.
Get a tutor or send her to a language school instead.
Depends in which school...they're not all the same!!!I did work in different schools in Thailand,and they 're all different!!
If you worked at some, then you should have known the answer to your own question.
Furthermore, despite the fact that there may be a few good Gov't schools out there, there is a reason why so many try to get their kids out of them, because on a whole they are worse off.
Is she currently studying in English, French, or Thai? If she is studying in English or Fench, why switch her over to a Thai curriculum so she can study a second language.
There are plenty of private tutoring centers teaching Chinese, Japanese, French, Spanish, and German.
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Well my experience working in a well known government school (k-6) involved the following:
Students were beat/hit on a regular basis.
Teachers refused to accept corrections from students, sometimes resulting in a hitting.
I knew of one teacher who set up a lounge chair in her classroom and slept while kids did whatever they wanted.
If you did not pay for extra class after school or on Saturday with the homeroom teacher, your child's grades began to slip, they quickly rose when they began the tutoring, despite what their real abilities were.
Favoritism was rampant, if a child was labeled bad or dumb, he was labeled for good and was graded differently than a "good" student.
Now we bring in the idea of languages, if you expect a Thai government teacher to teach your child a language other than Thai, go read some of the horror stories about Thai English teachers, just substitute whatever language you want.
These examples are not true for all Government teachers, but true for enough that I would stay away.
Aras: There are plenty of international schools that are under 100K for k-6. I know of one school that costs about $100,000 for K-12 but there is also one that costs $40,000 in the same town. Both are fantastic schools.
Further more if you expect to have children go to some of the Thai private schools (which some are good, but no substitute for an international school) or one of the few high up Thai government schools, be ready to bribe your kid's way in, at a cost of 300-500k Baht in case they don't make the scores/lottery.
As for Homeschooling, this is not a problem for non-Thais. However if they are Thai (or half) it is much harder, there are only a handful of homeschooled children in the Kingdom, it is very new and you must teach to the MoE standars and syllabus, which you purchase from them. I also believe they have to take all the same standardized tests as regular students.
I may sound like an asshol_e saying this, but here goes. If you can not afford to send your child to an international school, do not expect them to perform on the same level as students from your own country, nor have doors open for them as if they had a western education. If you are OK with the idea of you child graduating from a Thai school and going to a Thai University, then it's OK.
I am also not stating that a Child will not succeed unless they go to a Thai School, I know many Thais who graduated from schools and then went on for their BA or MS in the US, my own Wife went to a private school did her BA at CMU and is now getting ready to do her MS here in the states.
Also not all Thai Universities are Bad, Chula, Mahidol, and Tammasat are decently ranked. I have even been considering a MS in Industrial Ecology at Mahidol when I return.
But the fact still remains that life will be easier and they will have more opportunities if they study at an international school.
Cliffnotes:
Many Thai Teachers are underqualified, burn out, and hit students
Tutoring is a better way to go
International Schooling is the best way to go, do what ever you can to afford it
If you can't that doesn't mean your child will not succeed in life.
I talk too much.
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Cognos, why dos'nt your wife's family have a Chinese surname? Somewhere along the line they adopted a Thai surname. If they are so proud of being Chinese I would have thought they would have retained the Chinese name so everyone would know their origin. In Malaysia they did not change their surnames.
I think the Thai Chinese are not proud to be Chinese, only on Chinese New Year.
Well there is a 50/50 chance that a Thai man once married a Chinese girl & she took his name eh?
Then also the other political mentioned reason....
Funny how that works huh? My wife is Thai with a Chinese Maiden name and a western surname and who knows what will happen in the next generation.
Outback: As for not being proud, go hang out in some of the Chinese neighborhoods, it's no different than the many americans who still hold fast to their Irish, Italian, Dutch, German, Swedish, Etc roots. Some are more deeply rooted than others, but it is evident.
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I worked at a Gov't school and we had a few foreign students.
On that note, If I had kids would do everything in my power to ensure they never went to one.
Get a tutor or send her to a language school instead.
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Solve the problem by either having a foreign teacher sign in, or as my school a computer.
In by 7:50am and leave around 3ish, but stay till 4 or longer once a week so parents can catch up with you.
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America or "Sa-had-rat", Which is great because most Thai's have realized us American's have no interest in soccer
I have no problem telling my nationality to anyone. And to be honest the only people who seem to have a problem with my nationality are other farangs who are unable to realize that 1 person does not equal nor represent the entire government of his home country.
so why did every game David Beckham play in sell out, what about the soccer moms, aarrghh its football not soccer, we invented it like rugby netball, rounders.etc or should i say Football, Basketball and Baseball it wont be long before USAs favourite sport is football, the real thing played with the foot. look forward to the world cup as our first game is USA, wont be easy for us. its the worlds number 1 sport and we are wining you over slowly. i visited the states during the world cup, orange bowl Orlando, has to be the best organised event i have ever been to, shame the irish lost though. ASTON VILLA, MANCHESTER UNITED, DEBY COUNTY,LIVERPOOL all American owned. your cracking slowly but surely
Sadly the #1 "sport" in the US is Nascar, or as I like to call it "Non-Athletic Sport Centered Around Rednecks"
And I jest, My university was known for soccer and lived and thrived on it, though only Div III. Soccer is popular in America from k-12 Many people play intermural leagues when they are young, but no one cares to watch it. kinda like lacrosse.
Also I look like Rooney, which has actually gotten me out of a lot of tickets with the BiB haha
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They don't go to class in Hoodies, pink University sweatpants and ugg boots, nor do they go to pubs in mini skirts and ugg boots
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never known it to be a big deal who told you it was ?? your wife
..its not a big deal to me, and it should not be to others either, as about 60% of Thai women could be Thai Chinese... however it SEEMS to be a big deal to some, as when you mention you are (one of millions) with a thai chinese partner.. many on TV seem to assume you are lying.. why they think that is the million satang question, hence this post
signed: strange days indeed
I have noticed this as well.
My wife constantly has to mention it because she doesn't look like a typical Thai. And constantly hears "why do you speak Thai so well?" and then she replies she is Thai, most Thais think she is Korean or Japanese.
The funniest incident was when we were walking through the night bazar in Chiang Mai and my was was talking and said "Baa-saat" (crazy) and as we walked past some Thai/Burmese guys said to eachother "Baa-saat pen passa yipon mai?" (Is baa-saat a Japanese word?)
Date and marry who you love and find attractive and ignore the BS from others. A lot of people are never happy unless everyone around their either adheres to all their expectations or no one is happy.
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America or "Sa-had-rat", Which is great because most Thai's have realized us American's have no interest in soccer
I have no problem telling my nationality to anyone. And to be honest the only people who seem to have a problem with my nationality are other farangs who are unable to realize that 1 person does not equal nor represent the entire government of his home country.
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I made the mistake of doing mine in Phuket. While the teachers were more than competent, I quickly realized I was studying with people who had little to no interest in teaching, but rather find a way to support their drinking, drugging, and whoring habits while in Thailand.
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The police background check was required at the government school I worked at in Chiang Mai.
The rest of what I was talking about is required for me to teach int he US.
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Look, as I stated above, if you're American. It takes 3 minutes, instant results and costs you $10 or so.
For example, this is Pennsylvania's https://epatch.state.pa.us/Home.jsp
I have to do background checks, FBI, Child Services, and TB tests yearly. The background check is the fastest and easiest out of all of them.
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I agree with PB, both of you should teach at an international school, unless you wish to make a great amount less than you are currently making.
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"...criminal background check done for the work permit requirements."
I must be missing something.
Is this new? I've had WP's in 3 provinces and never required one.
Province to province the requirements are different (TIT). In Chiang Mai I have never heard of a police check being a requirement. Which 3 provinces didn't require the check Terry? I'm sure this will be useful information.
Friend needed one for a school in CM, this was about 2007-2008. I didn't need one because it was a newer requirement.
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Mostly it deals with skin color. Thai/Chinese girls are, on average, whiter/paler than the average Thai.
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I hate kids. teaching them is a nightmare - the best I taught were 16+. University and corporate were good. Why on earth an experienced teacher would choose a large class of kids beats me. I look back at my teaching days with fond memories but none of them with kids.
Any teachers in Khon Kaen are looking to teach a couple of kids - mine ?
For the same reason I don't want to teach chemistry or math, preference. I love the energy that can be tapped in such a class.
I had no trouble with 35 3rd graders, in fact I loved that age group, my biggest problem was to have them raise their hand before answering.
But if you want to see hyper, try an emotional support classroom with 7th grade girls with ADHD.
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errp, I meant to say Individual Education Plan, IEP not ILP haha
This sounds great!!! Could you post a blank IEP or a template?
Here you go, this is a blank IEP. There are plenty of websites going in depth on this topic.
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I know lots of Thais here who come via Au pair, then simply sign up at a community college for a student visa and skip classes.
On a side note, not one Thai person I know who has come here has come here due to a rich mommy or daddy.
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I found mine a bit useful, but severely lacking in many areas. I think it was more of a confidence builder if anything. If you already have experience of any sort I don't think it's worth the money. But learning how to write a lesson plan and learning how to handle yourself in front of a classroom really helps some who dive in head first.
I used to think they were a huge waste of money, but others here pointed out the good in them.
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errp, I meant to say Individual Education Plan, IEP not ILP haha
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I found quite I few just doing a google search for aptitude test. I didn't link because they don't want us to :/.
I remember having a high aptitude towards engineering, which I found funny since I despise math.
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An IEP is an Individual Lesson Plan this came about from the IDEA act of 2004 here stateside. you can read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individuals_w...s_Education_Act . Basically it ensures that every student is given the chance to succeed. An IEP is written up by a special education teacher and with the help of guidance counselors, normal subject teachers, parents, and admin is a way to cater to a student's disability. These disabilities can range from learning, physical, speech, emotional, etc. They are also used to monitor a student's progress.
For example, a student with ADHD might have an IEP that states they are able to have time and a half in a private room on tests, while a student with MS might have an aide who helps him around school, the right to leave class early to avoid the between class rush, and a laptop to take notes because they may lack fine motor skills to write legibly.
It's something I really see missing from Thai classrooms. We as educators will have students who would be classified under the IDEA Act. While we often think of mental retardation and other obvious disabilities, it is easy to look over the hyper kid who seems to forget his homework all the time, or the student who is slow to respond because it takes them longer to process information. The other downfall falls into the "there is no failing in Thailand". This also seems to carry over to parents completely ignoring any possible problem their child might have.
There are other things in America like the ADA, Americans with Disabilities Act which basically led to making sure everyplace has enough ramps, handicapped parking etc.
I hope that was enough, as I myself am studying these subjects, and my focus is not special education.
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if you want to live in a world where everything is safe, works properly, you have your rights etc, then go home
Seriously
This is Thailand.
I think we need an emoticon for, if you don't like it leave. That would save some posters a lot of time.
Maybe this one saying go home
I prefer the SA Goons get out frog.
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I just started some middle school observations here stateside. I am doing work with a special education math teacher for 6th-8th grade and will start sitting in on IEP's etc. Should be rather interesting and a big jump from teaching 3rd and 5th ESL in Thailand. Looking forward to my student teaching and being able to teach middle schoolers.
I am doing everything backwards haha
Cmu 1 Year Thai Study Program
in Chiang Mai
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I think your post was fantastic. In fact I think it should be stickied somewhere, because it is going to answer a lot of future questions.
I would love to come back on an ED visa and solidify my reading and writing, but I don't think I will have the time to do so.