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1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

Wrong.

 

Imports into the UK of the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine from Belgium were never in danger.

 

I'm not excusing her, but what von der Leyen tried to do was stop extra vaccine being taken from EU counties to the UK via the RoI as the manufacturer was not meeting their commitment to the EU.

 

Neither, come to that, are UK company AstraZeneca with their Oxford vaccine.

 

As said, her actions were inexcusable; but there are always two sides to every story. Sometimes the EU are in the wrong, sometimes we are. 

 

Not that I expect many Brexiteers will accept that. Their knee jerk reaction has always been to ignore the facts and blame the EU for regardless!

By your own admission the eu were wrong in this instance,so whats there to accept about that?

52 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

So it's ok by you for Johnson to renege on an international treaty because the other side won't kow tow in other, separate negotiations.

 

Not surprised; typical Brexiteer wanting the UK handed everything on a plate without having to give anything back in return.

 

After five and a half years, it's time you lot entered the real world!

Eu good uk bad,eu good uk bad.

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

Wrong.

 

Imports into the UK of the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine from Belgium were never in danger.

 

I'm not excusing her, but what von der Leyen tried to do was stop extra vaccine being taken from EU counties to the UK via the RoI as the manufacturer was not meeting their commitment to the EU.

 

Neither, come to that, are UK company AstraZeneca with their Oxford vaccine.

 

As said, her actions were inexcusable; but there are always two sides to every story. Sometimes the EU are in the wrong, sometimes we are. 

 

Not that I expect many Brexiteers will accept that. Their knee jerk reaction has always been to ignore the facts and blame the EU for regardless!

Yeah theres always two sides to an argument,their commitment to the eu?ever heard of the argument first come first served?sometimes the eu are in the wrong,yeah and will only hold their hands up and admit when they,re caught out bang to rights.

1 minute ago, david555 said:

Two weeks before Boris told in HOC. he would not be affraid to do same by tearing up it ....on a intervenrion from "N.I.lovely Irene" ...pot> ketle but from the honorable side ..i guess ????

????????????

5 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Interesting, how much are you offering for they extended grace period? if you add some of your sufferinity back on top of the money, maybe we can talk ???? 

You,ll have my undying gratitude

2 minutes ago, david555 said:

And you expect some consideration from E.U. in other things ? ....????????????

 

Oh boys you brexiteers must be really happy with this brexit outcome ....venom is dripping out of your joy..????

Learnt it off the antics of the remainers in the last three and a half years,anyway who was it threatening to invoke article16? Just because they screwed up they,re trying to bully the uk,well sorry to say ( for you ) it didn,t work.

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Alternatively, the UK does and did at is is was told.

Been slinging it down your skagg? Can,t make head nor tail of that.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The UK has its supply contract with private businesses, it has no control at all over those businesses and the growing number of other vaccine producers supplying the EU.

 

The UK has a supply contract, it does not own any vaccines beyond those in hand. 

 

If if you take your jingoism glasses off you’ll see the truth of the matter.

The uk put in an order early while france dithered don,t know wording of contract but would assume it was legally binding,france put their order in and were told they would do all they reasonably do to fulfill the order , for whatever reason they couldn,t and france tried to take our supply,its always someone elses fault according to the eu.

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Just keep Johnson away from the VP, she’ll maul him.

Knowing boris he,ll try and slip her a length.

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Please explain to jay vaccines belong to the UK?

 

The UK buys it’s vaccines from pharmaceutical companies that are not owned by the UK.

We ordered them early while the eu ran around like headless chickens,so they,re now ours,i bought a harley davidson made by an american company and paid cash,so now you,re saying it dosen,t belong to me?

2 hours ago, Victornoir said:

Here is the problem of exchanges with English, endless negotiations, shattering declarations bordering on insult, final agreement torn from the forceps at the 25th hour ...

And just after signing, request for exception, renegotiation, extension.

I hope that the EU will hold its own this time to make any modification of the agreements conditional on heavy financial compensation.

And i hope the uk holds its own on the vaccine issue and sells there surplus to the highest bidder.

18 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So asking for an extension is not eating humble pie?

Obviously there must be talks if the french are going to start playing up.anyway i won,t be eating it prefer a nice pair of hairy kippers.

On 1/20/2021 at 9:53 PM, scubascuba3 said:

, who wants to sit on a cramped plane

Me for one for 12 hours if theres abit of naughty at the destination.

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

What exactly did they actually do with regards to the vaccine. Oh right, they got criticized and changed course. So corrupt of them to accept valid criticism.

Changed course because when it came to ordering the vaccine they cocked it up,then tried to bully and bluster the uk,when that didn,t work they bottled it,and " changed course ".

2 hours ago, bkk_mike said:

Gain?

Where?

Seriously - what exactly is the "gain" of Brexit. Still to hear something other than the sovereignty bull-<deleted>.

They did lower the tax on tampons. That apparently is a genuine gain of Brexit - cheaper tampons... Shame everything else is getting more expensive... - except fish - apparently fish dropped in price by a LOT, so long as you want to eat herring.

Rather eat herring than humble pie,very nice fried with a couple of slices of crusty bread.