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7 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

Defining Uber drivers as employed rather than self employed has nothing to do with seasonal farm labourers, who are usually employed and therefore entitled to the minimum wage.

 

But don't take my word for it; take that of HMRC: National Minimum Wage Manual.

 

Will you now respond to what I actually asked.

 

Namely were you posting about foreign workers, British workers or both?

 

And what do you mean by "literally and figuratively" and why put self employed in quotation marks?

 

Surely you can't mean paying them cash in hand so they evade tax and NICs!

 

 

If you cannot understand my post its pointless trying to explain it to you,brexit will do more for workers rights than all the <deleted> which came out of the eu.

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Certainly and war criminals...

Has there been any statues of tony blair erected?

3 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

I still travel with my Yellow Fever book.  

 

The problem is, the vaccine for Covid doesn't stop you getting it, and spreading it.  So, proof of vaccination is useless when hoping to go to a country where the population hasn't been vaccinated yet.  

 

By the time Thailand has vaccinated the population to a percentage that will allow tourism, most of the western countries that make up Thailand's tourism market will have already been vaccinated, so whilst a vaccination certificate may still be required, it will not mean much.  

Western countries.gain in tourism,thailands loss.

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

Foreign workers, British workers or both?

 

What do you mean by "literally and figuratively" and why put self employed in quotation marks?

 

Surely you can't mean paying them cash in hand so they evade tax and NICs!

On your first point,gig economies require a glut of cheap labour as provided by " freedom of movement ." a recent court case re uber has established their workers are actually employees subject to all its benefits,this will result in tax and nic contributions made at source,a nice little earner for the inland revenue bearing in mind the pending depression..

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Then you should have left ‘body count’ out of it, or at least checked the facts first.

I don't disagree the uks death toll is higher,what i was stating  that had the eu adapted their vaccine programme as fast as the uks less of their citizens would have died.the main reason britains body count is so high is the new variant thats more highly cotagious variant that originated in kent.and where were all the illegal boat people immigrants pitching up?...kent.

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Then you should have left ‘body count’ out of it, or at least checked the facts first.

I,m not disputing uks body count is highest,what i was saying if the eu were on the ball like britain were with its vaccine program a lot of their citizens wouldn,t have died in the meantime

So you,re willing to walk out on your kids?

Have you got a job in the uk?

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Tragically the body count does keep rising, the UK is suffering very much worse than most nations, perhaps that’s a ‘Boris bonus’.

 

 

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

The post was about vaccine implementation.

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why is irrelevant, it has nothing to do with Brexit.

 

 are making the claim that the UK would have been obliged to join the EU vaccine procurement pact and that the UK’s success in vaccine procurement/roll out is a product of Brexit.

 

And yet Brexiteers can produce no evidence to back these claims.

 

 Why din’t you have a go.

Why don,t i din't ? Why don,t you google it up like i did,sorry to hear about your servant rolling a double  six.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The EU could have ‘wanted’ whatever the EU wished, there is nothing in EU membership that could have compelled the UK to share it’s vaccines.

 

 

Not since we left,didn,t stop them trying to invoke article 16 in bully boy tactics using the border situation in ireland,and you wonder why people voted to leave?

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where in the  ‘news about the vaccine roll out’ is there evidence to back up Brexiteer false claims that as a member of the EU the UK would have been compelled to join the EU Vaccine procurement pact OR that Brexit player any part in the UK’s vaccine policies?

 

These are Brexiteer ‘inventions’ of the alternative reality they wish us all to swallow.

 

Brexit had no part in the UK’s vaccine procurement policy or vaccine roll out.

So why are the eu lagging so far behind the uk?

23 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

It's evidence that we've handled it better; no one is denying that. Though other aspects of this government's handling of the pandemic vary from woeful to corrupt!

 

But it is not evidence that we could not have done exactly the same if Brexit had never happened. 

 

As MHRA Chief Executive Dr June Raine says, as the relevant EU directive says; we could have done.

So the eu countries could have done the same as the uk?pity they didn,t as the body count rises.

29 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

But you don't mind importing foreigners to do it?

 

Note; foreign workers in the UK have the same rights as British workers; including the minimum wage.

Not if the employer takes them on(literally and figuratively )) on a " self employed " basis.

46 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

 

Well I think its the duty of all you Brexiteers to get into those fields and help those farmers. Its the patriotic thing to do.

After all you guys voted to stop Romanian workers coming here to do the work. 

Its not the duty of brexiteers,however it could be the duty of the growing numbers of unemployed should they wish to remain on benefits.

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

“But if you're honest with yourself you know that if the UK had never voted for Brexit and had still been a full EU member, we'd have been obliged to join the EU vaccine program whether it was in law or not. ”

 

OK you made the claim, now back it up with evidence of why your claim is true, or accept you don’t have such evidence and made the claim up.

So the success of the uks vaccination programme compared to the eu isn,t evidence?

On 2/19/2021 at 3:14 PM, Leaver said:

 

It's not about what the UK want.  It's about what the countries receiving tourists want.  

 

If Thailand, and many other countries, insist on proof of vaccination, than the NHS, through government policy, will be obliged to provide such proof. 

 

This will allow people to travel internationally to such countries that require the document.

 

Of course, proof of vaccination will be worthless inside the UK.

 

Basically, as far as many countries in the world will be concerned, no vaccination, and proof thereof, no boarding the fight and no entry.  

Theres nothing new in " health passports" 45 years ago i travelled overland through africa and had to have a card with all my vaccinations on.a lot of countries wouldn,t let you in if you hadn,t had up to date vaccinations.

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

These guys don't attack people for no reason. I wonder what the young guy said to him and what is a guy that age doing in Pattaya anyway?

Perhaps he attacked him because he didn,t like his haircut.

3 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I was watching a YouTube video of Pattaya yesterday and it occurred to me that one step towards making it a world class resort is to provide pavements/sidewalks for the rich tourists they so desperate to attract. Every side soi and even the main roads require pedestrians to walk in the road. It is such an obvious thing, so basic in any real world tourist town or city, that I'm amazed I've only just realised that Pattaya lacks such basic infrastructure. In Bangkok, it might be a good idea if they installed street lighting, starting with the main streets. Nearly all the light comes from shop or other business windows. Quite extraordinary.

Quite extraordinary? Not really thailand appears to be a third world country with 1 st world prices and aspirations.

13 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

No country in the EU was bound to join the collective effort to combat coronavirus. The UK could have ordered the vaccines regardless of whether it was a member or not. So Brexit has zero to do with the vaccination program. 

So why did the eu try and invoke article 16? And why are the eus vaccinations half of the uks?

14 hours ago, polpott said:

Try learning Issan. The things those bar girls say about you when they think you don't understand. If you're not thick skinned (I am) your self esteem could hit zero very quickly.

I speak a bit of thai,and my esteem won,t hit zero,the only thing that,ll hit zero is any hope of me buying a them a lady drink,anything can be bought in the los,friendship,respect,etc and its all a delusion.last thing i,m concerned about when out and about is what a ho,s opinion of me is.

23 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Which again has nothing to do with brexit.

Again cause it has,if we,d still been in the eu we,d be in the same position as them,however as we,re independent we were able to go out and sort our own affairs out without being bound by the eu and their  fiasco handling of it