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44 minutes ago, AndrewMciver said:
That was a bizarre one too.
What about the DJ too.
And the 3 that arrived in Japan a few days ago.
And the Lumpini boxing event.
And the famous case of Vietnams patient 91 (Scottish pilot) who had been in BKK a week earlier for a visa run.
Yes, and this was a long time ago (June), but it suggests what most savvy farangs have thought about the lies and deceit perpetrated by the dictators for a long time now.
etc, etc.....
There are countless other cases which I could dig up.....but I don't need to, I already know.
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22 hours ago, Expat Tom said:
I have said this many times before but it needs repeating ad nauseum. THE CCP CORONAVIRUS CAME FROM WUHAN CHINA. The Chinese (CCP) knew that the virus was capable of human to human transmission yet covered up the fact and allowed travel from the source , Wuhan, to Thailand, America, Europe and all corners of the globe.
The people of the WORLD, Thailand included, have the Communists Party of China to thank for all of the death and financial misery. Thailand should remember this before they let their beloved brothers from the Middle Kingdom back into Thailand to bring their next new viral present to the Land of Smiles.
When would be a good time to welcome the Chinese hoards back? HOW ABOUT NEVER!!!!!
Thank you Tom.....nail on the head.
These CCP <deleted> should never be allowed to forget what they have done..... again!!!!!
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19 hours ago, DavisH said:
There is a lot of testing going on here - just not random mass testing of the population - prisoners and those admitted for surgery are two examples, and those suspected of having covid, are tested. If noone is presenting to hospital with symptoms - and any that are infected but are asymptomatic anyway, who cares? I don't buy the story of high numbers of asymptomatic carriers present in Thailand - they would spread the virus and infect others causing symptoms. Many would end up at hospital.
Incorrect.....see graph for the amount of testing going on here.
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Let's hope she does the honourable thing and kills herself.
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Great news....made my day ????
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29 minutes ago, JusticeGB said:
No point testing people in Thailand because it will spoil it's record of 100 covid19 virus free days. We should give that person a prison sentence for damaging Thailand's reputation.
Less than 1% of Thailand's population has been tested according to the worldometers website and that includes people who have been tested more than once.
I believe that Thailand has a low number of infections but not as low as reported. This guy was only tested because he was in prison.
How many other untested people are infected?
Nail on the head......thank you.
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1 hour ago, Tich said:
Who in their right mind craves for an airline meal ?
Beat me to it.....you'd have to be on the verge of starvation in my book
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1 hour ago, hotchilli said:My missus's friend has had a cough & fever for a few days, she went to a clinic which gave her a bag of pills.
5 days later no change, so she went to the local hospital, they gave her another bag of pills and said rest at home.
NO COVID TESTS DONE.
you work it out !
Thank you.....it's been like this from day 1.
I know of at least 6 people that have had 'flu' symptoms.....exactly the same response....no test done, sat at home to wait it out. The latest incident was a friend 2 weeks ago. Anyone who believes Thailand is covid free is deluding themselves. Don't forget 95% of all cases only exhibit 'mild flu symptoms'....it's been in circulation here since January if not before.
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1 hour ago, Flying Saucage said:
Interesting! I know the case about this pilot of Vietnam Airlines, but I didn't know that he visited Bangkok a week before the diagnosis. There is no proof, of course, that he was infected in Thailand. But it is an interesting coincidence. Can be, good possible. This is a very sad and serious case of Covid. He almost died, and will have problems for the rest of his life.
Do you remember when it was? I heard that the Vietnam was among the first countries, if not the first at all, which closed the borders for tourists from Wuhan, while the Thai government even end of February still invited, welcomed and embraced tourists from there.
Here you go......
"When he first fell ill at an expat bar, which was the site of southern Vietnam's biggest outbreak, his case caused controversy as there was speculation he was the source of the outbreak".
"There seemed to be a desire to pin it on me coming from abroad, as I did a visa run to Bangkok a week earlier," he told the BBC in June, when he was still in Vietnam.
"I was the first person to put my hands up and say: 'Look I don't feel well'. It was inevitable I would be blamed."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-53544345
Comes at the end of the article.....
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1 hour ago, Flying Saucage said:Yes! And do you remember the case of the male Thai celebrity who attended the Lumpini boxing event, and who informed the public a few days later that he was tested positive and was infected on this event? He was threatened to be sued by computer crime law and defamation law.
And there was also this case in March, of a Thai tested positive, in which the authorities stated that he was infected in Hongkong. The Hongkong authorities were very good in fighting the virus and tracing the people at the same time. They were alerted and immediately asked the Thai authorities to provide more info, to be able to track the people who had contact with this guy. The Thai authorities never replied. Was quite embarassing for them.
That's why the daily info on Thais tested positive after returning home from abroad should be taken with a grain of salt.
Do you also remember the Scottish pilot that the Vietnamese hospital cured after several weeks. He had been in Bangkok a week before he was diagnosed....As someone else pointed out, remember we live in 'lieland'
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7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:There are 1318 hospitals in Thailand.
Thailands death rate is 7.068 per 1000 of population. Approx 500,000 people die each year anyway.
IF there were 20,000 or even 50,000 additional deaths, would it be noticed when decided amongst all the hospitals ???
Of course, not everyone dies - for arguments sake, say 50% of people die in a hospital. Thats 250,000 across 1600 hospitals:
Would an extra 3 deaths per month be noticeable ????
Looking at the numbers vs the argument that if there were more covid-19 it would be noticeable, I don’t think it would. The vast majority of cases are asymptomatic anyway and thus not noticeable if there is little testing and spread amongst the hospitals an additional handful of deaths per month is also not really notable.
Of course there are flaws in the above logic with regards to population clusters etc, however the point is made to highlight the relatively small numbers and the fact that it would be easy not to notice higher numbers.
Spot on!!!! Also given the fact that the old age population here is significantly lower to more developed parts of the world. Old age care homes are simply non existent....I would love to have access to country wide hospital data with regards to deaths associated to pneumonia.
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12 hours ago, herwin1234 said:
Its jealousy. The Brittish cant handle that Thailand does very well handling the covid crisis, so they gotta make a negative item about accidents in Thailand.
Question: Why on earth would road accidents in Thailand have any relevance to the UK. Its just searching for a negative story just to feel good about their owncountry and conveniently forget they totally mismanage covid crisis.
How do you know 'Thailand does very well handling the covid crisis'......there is no testing done period.....so how do know how many people have it.....A good friend of mine had 'the flu' 10 days ago.....no test done!.....bullsiht numbers....lieland again.
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This really is one of the most ugly countries in the world at present.....it was so good 6 years or so, ago....I yearn for guillotine movies.
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51 minutes ago, 321 BOOM said:Let them think whatever they want. I don't care. I only want to leave LOS as soon as regular flights are available and never come back.
Me too....off to Portugal....better weather, better food.
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9 hours ago, wxyz1 said:
reminds me of a murder/suicide case when I just moved to Thailand;
police forensic expert- suicide
Dr. Pornthip and her team - murder
Welcome to 'Lieland'
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"Wouldn't it just be easier to ban Chinese from entering other countries?
Almost all new disease comes from China."
Gets my vote......you are absolutely correct....They've done it 4 times in the last 60 years.
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On 6/23/2020 at 1:50 PM, KhaoYai said:
You might find reading the statistics on Pneumonia cases and deaths since January interesting reading.
I know a married couple (Thai & English) who both caught a virus whilst visiting Thailand earlier this year. The English guy was pretty bad and was hospitalised in Pattaya - his symptoms point strongly towards Covid 19, yet neither were tested. All that was recorded was a Respiratory Infection. I'm just one person who knows 2 that are very likley to have had Covid whilst in Thailand - how many more are there?
I have lived in Thailand for 15 years.....when I used to live in the UK, I would always get 3 or more colds/flu every year, guaranteed.
Since living in Thailand, I never get ill (touch wood) and I would always relate this to friends of mine when working abroad.
I agree with someone else who posted about westerners touching each other a lot....shaking hands/hugging/kissing....basically touching each other, whereas here in the far east, people rarely touch each other when greeting etc.
I think this is a huge factor in spreading any disease.
Perhaps the heat/UV radiation contributes to killing viruses more quickly than would happen in colder/less UV intensive countries???...basically reducing the viruses shelf life on any surface that someone might touch.
The UV index here in Thailand is always listed as 'Extreme' in any of the weather apps I look at (we are close to the equator after all).
I think there must be a lot of contributing factors, but the 2 I've outlined.....touching and UV are big in my opinion.
That said....in previous years I know of basically no-one/very, very few people who had a cold/flu here in Thailand during the time I've lived here.
However, this year I can think of a least 6 people I know of, who had some sort of cold/flu like symptoms.....they are all fine and in good health I'm glad to say, but the point is I had not seen anyone ill in previous years.
One of them was taken to hospital by his wife as he had breathing difficulties.....no test!!!!
For sure it's out there, perhaps not as widely spread due to factors I speculated about above.
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I would never buy anything from the murdering CCP....Ever!
Anyone that does, deserves getting the piece of <deleted> they will be buying.
After what the totalitarian, authoritarian, repulsive, kunt dictators have just inflicted on the world, I can't believe anyone would buy <deleted> from them ever again.
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Exactly, the idiot has obviously not read the latest news where they have discovered that asymptomatic cases actually account for extremely rare cases of the disease being passed on. They found that the disease was largely transmitted by people already showing symptoms/were inflected.
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6 hours ago, mikebell said:
The one that gave the world Peking Duck and Covid 19 (& SARS?).
& Bird flu.......& Asian flu......what will it be next time???.....Human population annihilated???
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What a shame....well done TUI....do not budge.
Treat the corrupt country the way it treats others.....tell the thai gov to stick it where the sun don't shine.
Make these corrupt baboons hurt as much as possible.....they do it on a daily basis to other innocent folks, without a care in the world for anyone except themselves.
I hope this country collapses.
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He has to explain why would 'rich people' want to come to a cesspool of corrupt, filthy, uneducated, disease ridden, South east asia, when there are infinitely nicer, friendlier, less corrupt, cleaner, destinations through out the world.
I can't think of one good reason why the worlds wealthy would want to come to this run down filthy country.
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Using our old friend Google....
It's worth pointing out that people over the age of 65 in Thailand account for 11% of the population (69 million)...7.6 million
People over the age of 65 in the UK account for 18% of the population (67 million)....12 million (4.5 million more than Thai)
People over the age of 65 in France account for 19.6% of the population (67 million)....13 million (5.5 million more than Thai)
People over the age of 65 in Italy account for 22.75% of the population (60 million)...13.6 million (6.6 million more than Thai).
Therefore, 1st world countries, due to their much higher rate of aging populations will of course show more deaths.
Coupled with social interaction in the west...shaking hands/hugging/touching in general, it's not surprising that infections there are much higher in general.
Coupled with a much higher testing rate and more accurate reporting....these countries again will show a more accurate 'big picture' than here....currently, Thailand has tested 0.4% of its population...the government figures are obviously not credible.
Then of course there's the mutation factor/different strains of the virus to complicate the issue further.....this time next year, hopefully a clearer picture will be available for all to see.
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29 minutes ago, sandyf said:
Only a fool can think any country can carry out unlimited testing.
In any country testing is a limited resource, even the wealthy west is struggling, but people like you would advocate wasting what resource is available.
Like many other situations a targeted approach is far more appropriate than any shotgun version.
The UK took a targeted approach but bashing them does little for the appetite of the Thai basher.
Ahem....South Korea.
You need both blanket testing to isolate the infectious, then targeted to find out who these people had been with and where.
Very simple....South Korea nailed it.
As soon as they got wind of what was happening in China last December they immediately instructed companies to produce test kits.....They knew from previous experiences of the Chinese.
Medical experts see Covid-19 risk for Thailand from foreigners
in Thailand News
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Thanks FFF.....nail on the head.
Sandy.....wake up.
What FFF said is spot on, and thats not including the untested. The dictators are not allowing testing on a large scale, it's impossible to know how many people out there are +ve....period, full stop.
Remember 95% of cases only display mild flu symptoms. How many people do you know that have had 'flu' this year?....I know of at least 7 friends.....they're trying to protect their 20%+ GDP tourist income. Blindingly Obvious!