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My mother in law needs a hip replacement but she's terrified to have it done as three of her friends in the village have died post op

This is a bog standard low risk procedure in most of the world but due to Thailand handling out anti biotics for absolutely anything they no longer work when people need them and people are dying needlessly due to over prescribing 

I took my daughter to the doctor's a few years back and again he prescribed antibiotics when they weren't required they went straight in the bin and she was back to health in 2 days with simple analgesia 

I have a medical background but I would advise caution when you're given medicine in Thailand especially antibiotics as it can cause more problems than they solve 

The Thai government would wouldn't they, both governments are pro Putin though in Fico's case he genuinely believes it whereas Thailand is just doing what it always does i.e make a profit regardless of right or wrong...

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

It's quite perplexing how people can support radical Islam. I've seen gay men in dresses, sorry gender disphoria men in dresses, yelling "Free Gaza". Love to see them doing that in Iran for example.

Unfortunately many, many people are absolutely mind bogglingly stupid, when you mix this with an entitled attitude that's been enhanced with 'wokeness' it's a truly toxic mix

You are absolutely right radical Islam is laughing loudly at western stupidity but that won't save the stupid when the radicals get the knives out and you can bet they would be the first to welcome the IDF or Nato when it happens, fools and hypocrites...

Nepo? what was it again--- nepotism that's the one!

On 5/16/2024 at 3:57 AM, jonclark said:

I am utterly gobsmacked that so much has been revealed about this poor young lady's medical conditions in the press - surely all the conditions and ailments she was suffering from are confidential and cannot be reported by the media under threat of legal action. Remember this?

 

Report on Taksins illness 

 

Sadly it seems she was returned to the corrections department hospital as it was thought her life was not under threat...unlike taksin whose doctor claimed his life was at threat if he returned to the corrections department hospital. So he who lived it up in the VIP room of the Police hospital returned home cured as soon as parole was granted and then showed great energy and vigor rushing around Chiang Mai and Phuket meeting and greeting one and all, before trying to get involved in solving Myanmar crisis. 

 

Expect his daughter / PTP spokesperson to say it is unfair to taksin to compare the cases as he had nothing to do with the decision the dept of correction made and is allowed to keep medical information confidential...

You are correct the hypocrisy is great in this one!

5 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

So you’re a genocide supporter. Got it. You and genocide Joe are of the same ilk. You should be proud

You're very, very naïve!

Carry on with your delusions and keep supporting them terrorists they are well known for their love of none Muslim westerners, would love to see how that works out for you... 

2 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

So the navy boys keep their toys.

So what happened about the government saying that they would not pursue the purchase? Buy a frigate instead?

The military still runs the country.

True, looks like they have ditched the subterfuge in this case and aren't even pretending to be a democracy! 

On 5/11/2024 at 2:51 AM, fondue zoo said:

 

come on man, why the beret now?

 

 

It's dressing up day for the man child! Little weak men do like a uniform...

On 5/10/2024 at 10:47 AM, Will B Good said:

Good luck with that......🤭

 

Anutin is starting to look like a bull dog chewing a wasp.

I prefer a bulldog licking piss off a thistle!

He does look like he's fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down...

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Ok, it's not sinking in, I'll try one last time. Let's go step by step.

 

No, I wasn't there. But I have read many reports and they weren't contested. I have also seen his posts. They ended up using a sledgehammer because conversation, negotiation, asking nicely over a period of time didn't work, he just refused to talk and kept posting slander.

 

See above. And you're one of those that's gets a tingle out of calling Thailand a third world country, stands to reason.

 

Yes, you take a bad review on the chin and try to improve. I am tired of saying it but I left a bad review of this very resort on TripAdvisor. Did I get sledgehammered? Did they sue me? No, they replied and thanked me for it as it was constructive and referred to genuine service issues during my stay that they could use to improve.

You do not simply suck up a dedicated and sustained campaign of slander, accusing your hotel of slavery - no one would.

Got it yet? It wasn't a single bad review, it was repeated campaign of slander and the perpetrator refused all offers of dialogue. At the end of the day the hotel had no other recourse and they do not make make the laws. But glad to hear you would let it go and watch your business go down the drain thanks to a violent bully spamming all review sites with lies.

Read the facts, don't react to headlines and think a single bad review got him in trouble - far from it.

More waffle!!

this is all that matters wrt Koh Chang and their heavy handed use of gagging laws to coerce and bully and I know that they have damaged their business and their economy. They should have grown a pair and dealt with it like a grown up instead they damaged their business beyond repair hence having to rebrand

Hotel in Thailand That Jailed American Gets New Tripadvisor Label - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Not a gagging law you say, there's a few that disagree:

In Thailand, Defamation Lawsuits Can Make Free Speech Costly - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

To Speak Out is Dangerous: Criminalization of Peaceful Expression in Thailand | HRW

Thailand_Truth_be_told_decriminalise_defamation-1.pdf (article19.org)

Thailand: UN experts condemn use of defamation laws to silence human rights defender Andy Hall | OHCHR

Law and Order: Tangled Thai defamation laws | Thaiger (thethaiger.com)

3 activists are acquitted of defaming a Thai poultry company accused of violating labor laws | The Independent

and for those who have forgotten the backstory to the Koh Chang TripAdvisor episode that goes to show its hard to get the genie back in the bottle when you use corrupt third world gagging laws and then get caught out by the world

 Hotel in Thailand That Jailed American Gets New Tripadvisor Label - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

7 minutes ago, steven100 said:

to be honest .... I'm trying to understand your reply.   So are you trying to say the law is wrong ?    are you trying to say what he did is correct  ?     so you think it's fine to have  5 buddies post sh_t reviews about any place they visit and lie about it ?

Reckon if you lay off the sauce it could make more sense....

4 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

hahaha ....   this is a funny post.

Yeah I reckon you would prosecute and yes you would be!

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

So imagine you own a business and you're doing well, then one day a violent and aggressive man comes in to your restaurant with his own alcohol and gets angry when the staff inform him there is a 500 baht corkage fee, then he gets more belligerent and the manager comes out and waives the fee to placate him (so he bullied his way to "success").

Then a few days later the man starts leaving nasty reviews saying all the staff in the hotel hate the manager, the hotel is guilty of modern day slavery (none of these "reviews" are about the actual experience). He does it across many sites repeatedly and, I repeat, accuses them of SLAVERY. You contact him and ask him to take them down but he refuses. You ask again but he refuses and keeps going. Meanwhile your business is suffering.

Let me get this straight, you would happily let this go even after trying all civilised forms of communication. You would accept having slavery attached to your hotel for all eternity even though YOU DID NOTHING WRONG and you resolved a bad situation peacefully and sensibly by waiving the fee that applies to everyone else everywhere in the world because you were bullied in to it and other guests were getting disturbed.

 

The hotel doesn't make the laws but they took the only option left to them. They even said at the time they don't agree with the harshness of the law but they had no other recourse to protect their business as this guy was on a one man crusade to bring them down and was refusing to talk.

Don't confuse the people who make the laws with the people trying to protect their business against unjustified and vindictive attacks.
 

Waffle, waffle, waffle

You wasn't there and neither was I but there's three sides to the story his, theirs and the truth what you don't do is smash a peanut with a sledgehammer and then whine when the world takes notice 

They resorted to a third world gagging law in order to silence criticism whether it was valid criticism or not is besides the point 

If you run an hospitality business you take the rough with the smooth, prosecution of a customer is the actions of an idiot....

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

 

Reviews are welcome ...  they are not ' gagging laws '     if you get a cr_p meal,  or the service is sh_t ... then fine, write an honest opinion review ....   but don't just willy nelly write 1 star reviews because of some underlying issue with the owner, and then get your friends to do the same,  that's not ' gaggling law '    .....  that's being an ass_ole and he deserves to be punished.

It is plainly a gagging law

It's express purpose is to protect the wealthy nothing more nothing less

It is of no use to the poor and it is used extensively to stop free speech if you have a problem with a review take it up with the website and if it is vindictive it will be removed

Don't take it up with a corrupt judiciary in order to gag opinions then bleat about it when karma kicks you in the nuts and the outside world takes notice...

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

That guy in Koh Samui was wrong! Period!

 

This English guy is wrong, end of story! 

No you're wrong, period!

Opinions are like <deleted> we all have one but the fact is the hotel in Koh Chang is still losing business to this day even if it's only my business! I hope the Phuket restaurant also suffers for its heavy handed use of a corrupt gagging law 

What the hell has Koh Samui got to do with it, wakee wakee!!

42 minutes ago, RobU said:

Again the hotel will not suffer, the warning is that negative reviews may result in prosecution in Thailand it does not mention the hotel in question. Since all the bad reviews he posted were removed their website reputation remains the same as before the incident 

I hope they do the same as TripAdvisor but in this case maybe they don't have the integrity to stand by their beliefs that good or bad reviews should stand even in corrupt vindictive places 

The public should be allowed to decide without the owner resorting to an archaic gagging law requiring the participation of a corrupt police and judiciary to silence any response

Hope this goes international as these actions are appalling and any business that resort's to these tactics deserves their time in the spotlight!!

1 hour ago, RobU said:

Again the hotel will not suffer, the warning is that negative reviews may result in prosecution in Thailand it does not mention the hotel in question. Since all the bad reviews he posted were removed their website reputation remains the same as before the incident 

It does for Seaview Koh Chang the warning is there to this day on TripAdvisor. They have changed the name to Sylvan but it is the same place and like me many know this and take our business elsewhere, reap what you sow!

1 hour ago, RobU said:

JosephBloggs explained it correctly. The violent and dangerous bully needed to be reined in and this was the quickest way to do it resulting in his deportation back to America. The hotel will recover it's reputation since those people who stayed previously know that he lied. He had to be stopped. 

The hotel in Koh Chang has not recovered it's reputation in fact it's had to change it's name and myself and possibly others refuse to go there to this day. It will recover one day when everyone forgets or dies but the TripAdvisor warning is there for all to see. Reap the whirlwind bullies who think a negative review needs jail time cos I won't forget any time soon!!

I have not seen the restaurant reviews for the OP and have never been there but the one and only place I have been a guest who have gone down this route are on my blacklist for ever. I hope there's others who do know the resteraunt bullies who take similar action as their actions can never be right 

5 hours ago, Ebumbu said:

 

The hotel guy did get arrested for leaving a review. That's literally what he was charged with, defamation. I don't dispute that he was belligerent. Arrest him for belligerence then. But any business is going to get some disruptive customers and unfair reviews. It's the nature of Google and Yelp. There is no way that it's justified to put someone in jail who shared their opinion, whether they're right or wrong. Same goes for this case. A bad review cannot be a crime in anything resembling a free society. It's a backwards, North-Korea style practice that needs to be amended. 

At the end of the day, sending the cops to get this hotel guy did far damage than anything he could have written. After the incident, the hotel was buried with angry, negative reviews. What did they accomplish? Self sabotage. Opinions, even if wrong, should no be crimes. 

They've had to change their name but I would never ever go there again since the managers did this, so yes year's later it's having consequences and I reckon I am not the only person either. Reap what you sow!

10 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

great posting gents

 

now let get to to the FACTS....a rare thing theser days on this site

 

the POST say he seemingly left many FALSE statements about the business....yes that IS defamation...

 

TRUE statements would NOT be...see how that works. as i have left BAD reviews here in LOS based on BAD service aka truth

 

Saying FALSE things about any business can lead to this ,,anywhere....see how this works???

 

but do go on about freedom of speech etc,,,you must be the one making jokes about bombs on planes.....smh

 

whats your grievance today ????

Are you intoxicated? You seem confused and you are plain wrong in your assertion 

If you want to educate yourself look up TripAdvisor koh Chang the truth has no bearing but these actions can have unexpected consequences for the hard of thinking Thai hi so.....