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6 hours ago, sidneybear said:

Thankfully, Thailand ignores people like you and preserves its charming traditions, customs and ways. 

No!

Corruption, nepotism, dictatorship, hypocrisy, ignoring their people, crushing any dissent, lying, deceiving, disappearing any dissent, jumping into bed with Russia and China, are these the charming traditions and customs of which you speak?

You're a lost cause I fear....

The NY Times also ran the story and it seems there are three sides to the story his side their side and the truth but who knows which is which, what is beyond doubt is the hotels reaction has had long term affects

I have no doubt they have lost business through their overreaction. Most business's would just ignore it but not hi-so Thai's their concept of face is uber alles!

Hotel in Thailand That Jailed American Gets New Tripadvisor Label - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

I wonder if the hotel would still follow the same actions as their latest reviews are pretty scathing and they don't seem to have gone for the jugular with those, maybe they have learned that Thai face mean's jack <deleted> to the rest of the world and actions have consequences

SEA VIEW RESORT & SPA KOH CHANG - Updated 2024 Prices (Ko Chang, Thailand) (tripadvisor.co.uk)

Tripadvisor puts out warning on Thailand hotel after guest gets jailed for one-star review | The Independent

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   He wrote untrue accusations about the hotel , they were fabricated and malicious false reviews .

All Countries have laws against slander and making false accusations about people/businesses .

   He retracted his false allegations and he was free to go 

No I don't agree, he was dragged back from Bangkok and jailed for a negative review by petty, small minded management

How do you know his accusations were untrue?

What is beyond speculation is that he was held in the jail on Koh Chang and threatened with further legal action unless he made a public apology, I would think many people would bend to the bully's will if they where in a similar situation especially if the hotel owner was potentially local mafia

We have seen what happens on Thai islands when the local hi-so's lose face if anybody needs reminding google Koh Tao

Why do you think Tripadvisor still have a warning for this hotel?

Would you see the hotels action's as a positive or a negative?

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   He was held in jail for two days whilst the police were investigating him , but he wasn't jailed after that .

   He got upset because he had to pay corkage to drink his own beer on their premises 

He was dragged back from BKK and jailed for 2 days by the local plod for a negative review it's really not difficult is it!

He also was forced to give a cringeworthy apology or risk further charges by the weak, pathetic dim creatures in charge and years later it is still front and centre on Tripadvisor for all to see

I have used Seaview on several occasions prior to this episode but never again...

ps their latest review aren't very positive either who knows if it is a hangover from the managements ill advised public spitting of the dummy but I reckon that has cost them massively and rightly so! 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The man who got in trouble in Koh Chang didn't get jailed and he didn't just leave a bad review , he prolonger campaign against the hotel, writing fake reviews under various names

I call BS on this! He was jailed by the local plod as the family that own the hotel are local big shots and couldn't put up with any loss of face, weak entitled pathetic creatures

This is still on Tripadvisor so their petty vindictive natures are there for all to see, dare say they have lost a shedload of business through this and rightly so!!

Message from Tripadvisor:This hotel or individuals associated with this hotel filed criminal charges against a Tripadvisor user in relation to the traveler writing and posting online reviews. The reviewer spent time in jail as a result. Tripadvisor serves its users best when travelers are free to share their opinions and experiences on our platform – both positive and negative. The hotel may have been exercising its legal rights under local law, however, it is our role to inform you so you may take this into consideration when researching your travel plans.

Dictators tend to stick together, weak pathetic little men on both sides of the border speaks volumes about Thai democracy and whom they are willing to climb into bed with if any extra evidence was needed...

13 hours ago, sidneybear said:

Good to see these so called 'progressives' getting slapped down. Thailand is proud of its traditions and the monarchy is an integral part of what holds Thailand together. 

That's right let's keep the serf's in their places wouldn't want anything to derail the hi-so's gravy train or god forbid drag Thailand out of the middle ages!

Sarcasm alert for the hard of thinking....

2 hours ago, Highlandman said:

 

Yes. He is a Thai national. The complaint was also made in the Thai language . Where did you get the idea he was an Australian? The only Australian part of this story is it involved a passenger on a THAI flight to Australia and his post was made in Australia. 

Yeah they really like to control and punish their own, cowards and bully's you see!

I think they still might remember the uproar that the hotel on Koh Chang caused when they got a foreign customer locked up in gaol for a negative review but they have no problem going after their own...

If you want a really good well written summary of this whole sorry saga here's a link. You can thank me later...

Secret Siam | Andrew MacGregor Marshall | Substack

Zombie apocalypse - by Andrew MacGregor Marshall (secretsiam.news)

Ain't karma a bitch!!!

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

IMHO nothing WILL change until the military and the police are finally and firmly kicked out of politics completely, emasculated by a purge of the "senior" generals, and sent back to their barracks.

I 100% agree but can you really not see that nothing has changed?

They had one chance and it was blown by Thaksin and pheu Thai. They put getting Tony back and the chance to get back to the trough above all else

Anutin and drug dealer still at the top table, no meaningful reorganization of the military, no end of conscription

Submarines still on the table, record prison sentences for lese mageste. Neverending persecution of anyone who dissents and wants to reset the wrongs of the past

No prosecution for PAD and closing the airports yet any chance to prosecute anybody who disagreed with the powers that be absolutely smashed to the eleventh degree 

Senators still calling the shots, the judiciary and corrections department an even bigger laughing stock. The complete and utter contempt shown to the people of Thailand by all the establishment. The complete laughing stock that Thailand have shown themselves to be to the whole world

You get the government you deserve and Thailand have got this lot, better than public junta probably but actually anyone who looks can see bugger all has changed and the will of the people has been roundly ignored....

6 hours ago, billd766 said:

How did Prayuth's 9 years of corruption eradication work out?

Prayuth and the junta will carry on enriching themselves as if nothing has happened because the deal has been done

The only chance of a reset was MFP but Thaksin and PTT put their own enrichment above resetting Thailand so no point sounding off about Little P the watchman and all the others as Thaksins homecoming put paid to any chance of justice happening. All bought and paid for

'I will never get in bed with the junta' oh really you reckon... 

On 1/18/2024 at 12:40 PM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Yes - but they got close last time and with the Senate being 'removed' in May, it is likely the next election will be closer to what the people want (which IMO is no more Juntas).

Personally I think that is the key part of why Thaksin is free I reckon he has sold that one down the river and PTT won't argue when the senators get elected again for another term

The man has sold himself and his followers down the swanny for his own ends with no thought to what's right or wrong for the country and his supporters. I hope I am wrong but I reckon the senators ain't going anywhere...

From the linked article:

'It would imply that our legal system can be manipulated by those in power to serve political ends, thereby undermining the very foundation of our democracy'

I would argue that this sorry travesty grandly illustrates that not only those in power can make a monkey of the country but also convicts with money can make a mockery of the rule of law, democracy and justice and thereby undermining Thai democracy. Same same but different...

14 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Actually it will be a call for cloud seeding by Air Force to make rain to clear some of the dust from the air.  Nothing about prevention.

Nah they tie big nets to the back of the plane and scoop up the dust that way!!!

Been there and done that and would never do it again!

Was working offshore 5 on 5 off between BKK and Houston for a year ended up getting bilateral pulmonary embolism post DVT and the Doctors reckoned it was thew fact I was using sleeping tablets to crash out

Problem is you're not in a bed and staying in the same position for 16 hours on a flight due to being comatose is dangerous hence how I ended up with the DVT. The blood clots could easily have gone to my brain rather than the lungs and for that I am grateful

Each to there own but I would never use a sleeping tablet on a flight again no matter how miserable it is