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1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

The department reiterated that everything is conducted according to legal procedures and regulations

Well that'll be a first then!

12 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

It will take decades for this to be fixed, long after all the dinosaurs are dead and in the ground. 

I fear you're right but I think unless it is removed root and branch another lot of dinosaurs will simply take the place of this lot

The people lauding Thaksin are the ones that confuse me his actions and betrayal of the electorate is breathtaking yet some outwardly intelligent people seem completely blind to it

It's as if they think Thaksin is against the junta his actions say he isn't and by not being man enough to stand against it he actively condones them

I can't see any changes to the status quo anytime soon as the hi-so of all colours have shown themselves to be thick as thieves and the Thai people have been shafted yet again by the overlords 

I reckon he will be running down the road clicking his heels come Sunday due to the diligence and world leading medical care of the BKK penal system, a miracle I tell you!

11 hours ago, motdaeng said:

thanks to thaksin and the army there will be no change in the near future...

Bang on sir!

The old establishment and the generals and coup makers get to carry on as if nothing happened all because the convict at large got into bed with the junta

There was a fleeting moment when lasting changes could have happened but it relied on Thaksin doing the right thing and endorsing the electorate and MFP, he chose himself above all that and that fleeting moment has passed until God knows when.....

23 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

 

you're entitled to your opinion, but you missed your calling. You should be writing propaganda for justification of coups.

Still confused I see!

See my point 4, 5, 6 and 7 your hero Thaksin is giving the coup makers power and making democracy an unobtainable goal

By blindly endorsing Thaksin in reality you are condoning the junta and the illegal stealing of power

Thaksin had the chance to make lasting changes if he worked in conjunction with MFP, he chose not to and you choose to condone his actions

Seems to me one of us is making the coup makers lives easier and it ain't me. Because of PTT turning traitor my point 8 is on the rise again 

4 hours ago, JensenZ said:

No, I cannot see that. The rest that you wrote was virtually unintelligible, so I didn't bother to include it in your quote.

 

Can you not see the real problem in Thailand? There have been 22 coup attempts in Thailand since 1933, 13 of which were successful. What's the point of elections and having PMs if they are so easily removed? They serve at the pleasure of the military.

 

A coup is way above the level of a crime. A coup removes the law and then changes it through the writing of a new constitution. A coup removes freedom from the people. In comparison to coup leaders, Thaksin is a petty criminal, yet forum members obsess over him.

I think you might be one of the hard of thinking I mentioned so to break it down for you

1/ there was a vote where the people overwhelmingly voted for change

2/ PTT and Thaksin could have chosen to do the right thing and go with the will of the people

3/ PTT was and is Thaksin's thing, what he says goes

4/ The Thai institution was weak and divided and the spark of change was lit

5/ Thaksin decided coming home was more important than any of that

6/ Thaksin sold himself and his party and supporters out and jumped into bed with the junta

7/ The generals and establishment have realised they have carte blanche to carry on with no fear of retribution because Thai politicians, Thaksin and PTT have taken the money

8/ Lesse majeste travesties are up and Thailand has been set back again with no realistic chance of change

7 hours ago, JensenZ said:

In a land where coup leaders overthrow elected governments, and are lauded as heroes while taking away the freedom of all its citizens, people keep harping on about Thaksin. He's a non-event in a list of Thailand's real political troubles.

Can you not see the coup leaders are walking free because of Thaksin and his me first attitude and abject capitulation?

I am not naive enough to think everything would have been straightforward but it takes a spark and PTT and especially Thaksin staying true to the vote may have been that spark

Unfortunately we will never know as Thai hi- so internal political elites and in this I include Thaksin decided to put themselves ahead of their country

Cowards, hypocrites and scoundrels just as they ever where. Money number 1 in a word snafu and the spark has been well and truly doused with the piss of hi- so treachery to their people....

9 hours ago, billd766 said:

You are absolutely correct. Now try looking sideways through your blinkered vision.

 

IMHO you speak out and what you say is only your opinion. Do you truly have ANY insight as to what went on with in any discussions?

 

You can't even spell his name correctly, yet you expect that everybody believes what you say.

 

You are not even Thai, and therefore, like me, and every other farang on this forum, it means nothing to the Thai people who do have a voice and a vote and at the next election will be the ones who decide what will happen, unless the powers that be decide to ignore the vote like they did this time.

Oh I don't know he is certainly a Thaksin to his people and democracy....

29 minutes ago, uttradit said:

The guy is super smart. Negotiated a great deal. Did 12 hours in jail and now free. 

 

Coffee and cake now. 

You're absolutely right, just had to betray his supporters and his country to do it!

He certainly pulled the wool over Thailand's eyes in his quest to rejoin the trough

As mentioned earlier just another hi-so hypocrite just like the rest of the Thai elites....

22 hours ago, billd766 said:

In the same place that justice is meted out to ALL the generals who make a military coup against their elected government.

 

And if you are really bad then you get punished by being sent to join the Privy Council.

 

After all, that is what happened with Prayuth.

Bild he sold out himself and his supporters for his own selfish wants

The one man who had the chance to make a difference by backing MFP and putting the country and his people first decided not to as at heart he is just another sad old hi-so hypocrite

I don't hate him in fact I couldn't give a monkey's about him but I do pity Thailand as they have been well and truly shafted and at present meaningful change is impossible

The man who stated he would never get in bed with the junta! the very generals you keep going on about and Thaksin has given them carte blanche to do whatever they want without any fear or consequence

There's none so blind as he who refuses to see....

So in summary having talks with the Russians about ?circumventing sanctions and supplying steel and generally kissing Putin's ass, making overtures to the Iranians, kow towing to the Chinese overlords and now tea and stickies with the North Koreans!

They say your friends say a lot about you and in Thailand's case none of it is good, very enlightening none the less!

Seeing as she has some diagnosed illness's going on that have progressed during her incarceration I wonder if she will end up in the luxury wing with Thaksin, nah didn't think so...

10 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Thaksin denies the charge and has written to the attorney general asking for fair treatment

I think asking him to name his price is more likely!

21 minutes ago, sidneybear said:

You're being ironic rather than sarcastic. Why on earth would you hang around Thailand if you despise it so much? If it's so backward, why wouldn't you go and live in the 'progressive' West? After all, things are so much better there, aren't they?

No!

Right is right and wrong is wrong and what's happening in Thailand is wrong

The if you don't like it go home argument is also the last stop for the dumb or the apologist, it leads me to wonder which one are you?

If you believe what has happened with regards to the last election is good and honest I truly think you need to give your head a good wobble!

I won't hold my breath some people are too far gone your post's would indicate a dislike of democracy and a like of autocracy and dictatorship, I hope I am wrong but I don't think I am.....