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6 minutes ago, riclag said:
The time and resources to expose these leftists would be better served in real time ! Let the police restore law and order "on the spot" when these antifa thugs commit mayhem!
Because there are so many of them?
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50 minutes ago, Matzzon said:The only embarrassing is to read your post! Not embarrassing actually, it down right SAD!
In my world a particle that can move through a room or a droplet that can move 10-20 meter is exactly same. I can get infected, and better wear a mask, right?
Maybe it´s just that I am a little bit more down to earth than you are. Now see to that you read your link a lot of times, so that you can explain the scientific difference for me. At the end it will still be the same, though. You can get infected.
Go have a nice day now! ????The article isn't clear but there is a big difference. "Airborne" isn't just about particles moving through the air. It means that they can stay suspended floating about in the air a long time. What's more, over time these tiny particles will accumulate. Droplets and such are more like projectiles. If they don't hit their target they'll fall to the ground.
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24 minutes ago, Logosone said:The divisions in the US today are not the result of anyone's "divisive talks" or "divisive tone".
The increasingly divisive gulf between left and right has been a feature of European politics for some time, it long predates Trump. With the export of ANTIFA to the USA from Europe we now see this in the USA as well.
I believe the people in the USA are exhausted from the ANTIFA led vandalism and destruction.
The Trump camp will be quietly delighted the extreme left has raised its ugly head and provided the enemy which will rally the Trump supporters.
Following the US' poor performance on Covid19, it was a Godsend for the extreme left to divert attention from the virus and this radically enhanced Trump's chances of winning the election.
Just one teensy little problem with your take: the data doesn't back you up.
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6 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:And the *experts* continue to make it up as they go.
I remember when it was believed that ulcers were caused by stress and there wasn't a cure for it. Then a scientist claimed that actually ulcers were caused by bacteria and antibiotics could cure them. I guess he made that up too. And all the people who believe that they were cured were just kidding themsleves. Science is about advancing knowledge. And that means challenging assumptions. If you want timeless truths, stick to religion.
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2 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:
The "black" community in the USA, whilst certainly disproportionately represented amongst the disadvantaged young, also has members (many) amongst the professional, business, military and many other more affluent groups in the country. I doubt whether many of them would abandon their conventional political affiliations to vote for Kanye West. I also suspect that many who would vote for Kanye West would probably not have voted for the Republican or Democrat parties or candidates.
West's sales are way way down. Not nearly so popular as he used to be. Probably something to do with cozying up to Trump.
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1 hour ago, JCauto said:
Perhaps, but this is likely just naive hope that one might actually engage with our colleagues on the Right and gain a reasonable response rather than deflection and whataboutism. When one gets an occasional post like that which was written thoughtfully, it should be acknowledged due to the rarity of such an event.
That there are so few incidents of the sort that you highlight given the thousands and thousands of protesters in so many locations is the exception that proves the rule. People are on the street for a reason and the majority of them are risking their health because the situation for them is intolerable and they are finally at the point where they refuse to accept the social compact as it is currently being offered to them. They have good reasons for demanding this change and are doing so within their rights as American citizens.
It's one thing if they're risking their health. But in fact they are also risking the lives of others. That said, mask wearing does seem to be prevalent at these demonstrations. Whereas at pro-Trump venues, it is a rarity. Including at venues where President Trump himself was present!
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4 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:Competent leadership does not lead to a jurisdiction being the worse hot spot of COVID-19 on the planet. But thanks for a good laugh.
This is like saying competent soldiers don't get shot. When you're the first one facing an enemy, you're going to take more casualties. That's inevitable. There's a learning curve involved. But if other commanders refuse to learn from that experience and actually authorize tactics which are doomed to fail, that's inexcusable.
We actually had the governors of Texas and Florida and Arizona forbid localities from ordering the wearing of masks. And a president who hosts events where wearing masks is an option.
You know, it's been shown that great apes and dolphins learn from the experiences of their fellow creatures. It would be nice to have a president and governors who could rise to that level.
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1 hour ago, Bender Rodriguez said:for one, pictures of virus are FAKE ... electron microscope is BLACK & WHITE only... this is an "artist" render of a virus
There are scanning micrscopes that do this. And the point of the colorization is not to fool anybody, it just to make the structure of the virus clearer. In other words to aid in understanding. You have a problem with that?
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32 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:We agree with each other entirely. Silencing opinions and views is the epitome of evil, and signals the end of democracy. So, who is doing this silencing? Which side is championing "Cancel Culture"? Which side forced all public figures, sportsmen and police to "take the knee" to a Marxist organization(pre-emptive citations added)
https://nypost.com/2020/07/01/the-agenda-of-black-lives-matter-is-far-different-from-the-slogan/
that wants to end our societies, under the threat of being called a racist and losing jobs/families/friends. Do all sportsmen support the far left and Marxism? No of course not. So why were they all forced to submit to BLM? Prominent leftist Claira Janover's bizarre week should serve as a warning that intolerance of opinion is as dangerous as it is foolish. Disagree with the woke mob and you are in real danger. This is why IMO Trump is the man to save us from intolerance, hate and oppression - which I(as does Donald Trump) view as being hallmarks of the leftist movements.
Tell that to Colin Kaepernick who got fired for taking a knee and still can't get a job in the NFL.
Tell that to Donald Trump who said
“Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, you’d say, ’Get that <deleted> off the field right now. Out! He’s fired,” Trump said to loud applause.
and this too:
You have to stand proudly for the national anthem, or you shouldn’t be playing, you shouldn’t be there. Maybe you shouldn’t be in the country,” Trump said in a wide-ranging sit-down with “Fox and Friends” that took place Wednesday but wasn't aired until Thursday.
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5 hours ago, jimmybcool said:
Like owning a gun. And here we are again. It takes an ID, a background check and "permission" from local government to exercise that right. So I guess you oppose all that stuff for purchase of a gun?
The day someone gets murdered by a voting machine, you will have made a cogent point.
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4 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:
Sure bro, page after page after page of gang violence mass killings but you continue to deny.
In other words, what we're counting on is your impression. Not hard data. And your assertion that that statistics I cited don't include black-on-black violence turns out to be totally unbacked.
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52 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:
Tell me, why don't they include mass shootings perpetrated by black men stemming from gang violence?
Happens multiple times a week, but much like everything else, they exclude that data set from these statistics.
Got any proof of this? Seems very dubious.
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28 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:
Happy that you're willing to accept that if they didn't include black mass shootings that result from gang violence, then it would be inaccurate data and intentionally wrong and would therefore mean that black people DO commit more mass murder. And its interesting that politifact went with "Mother Jones" statistics over others, like:
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
Pick through there and get back to me.
I'm not your research assistant. If you've got the data or a specific link to prove your point provide it. I did check out the site and I saw nothing that categorized mass shootings by race. Nothing.
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3 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:
I did, ive known about all this my whole life being im actually an American, and you just superficially browse for internet points.
Tell me, why don't they include mass shootings perpetrated by black men stemming from gang violence?
Happens multiple times a week, but much like everything else, they exclude that data set from these statistics.
And we should take your word for that why? Please, come up with proof.
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1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:
Most mass shootings and overall murder/homicide are committed by black people, feel free to look it up. Mostly gang violence. And the right has been constantly talking about this for years.
Just look at the last month in Chicago if you want, but being in denial doesn't change anything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting
I did feel free to look it up. The question is, what stopped you from doing the same?
"White men have committed more mass shootings than any other group."
"Newsweek's claim is literally accurate. But it's worth noting the imprecision of this data, and the percentage of mass shootings by white men is lower than their share of the male population, according to Mother Jones.
We rate this Mostly True."
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Maybe instead Trump should run on the virtues of the USMCA, the replacement for NAFTA. Because it's going to be a huge boost for a lot of workers. HUGE. Just not for American workers.
Japan auto companies triple Mexican pay rather than move to US
Trump hailed new NAFTA as American job generator, but higher prices appear in offing
The new North American free trade agreement that goes into effect Wednesday was touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as an engine of American job creation. But Japan's automakers are largely opting instead to keep operations in place and pay Mexican workers more or even just pay tariffs.
Personally, I think it's great that Mexican workers are getting a big boost in wages. It's long overdue. I'm just not so sure that Trump supporters will be thrilled about it. After all, Trump was counting on the deal to repatriate auto production to the USA and create American jobs.
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1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:Yes, we can learn so much from New York, where they bungled COVID-19 more than any place on the planet. Yep, that makes lots of sense.
New York got hit early and so there was a lot more unknown. But we have learned a lot from what NY got right and what it got wrong. New York learned its lessons. Its coronavirus transmission is way, way down. Lessons that Florida, Texas, Arizona, Georgia, California and many other states failed to learn. Which is why they have had to reverse their policies. And the President of the United States hosted an indoor rally in Arizona with 3000 people where virtually no one wore masks.
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2 minutes ago, Tony125 said:
239 Experts With 1 Big Claim: The Coronavirus Is Airborne
https://www.yahoo.com/news/239-experts-1-big-claim-151916602.html?.tsrc=notification-brknews
The coronavirus is finding new victims worldwide, in bars and restaurants, offices, markets and casinos, giving rise to frightening clusters of infection that increasingly confirm what many scientists have been saying for months: The virus lingers in the air indoors, infecting those nearby.
The claim is controversial but definitely merits a lot more attention.
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4 minutes ago, torturedsole said:Not a good idea to stand on a motorway / highway and this reasoning has safely seen me through 50+ years.
It had been blockaded by the police. The driver actually had to go around barriers to hit the protestors.
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6 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:
Ummmm.... Antifa is at issue here, not BLM. And essentially, you are making stuff up as you go. Antifa has been involved in violence across the country and in Canada. It is simply a matter of casual observation and acceptance of reality. No amount of you denying is going to change reality.
Well, since this thread was about an incident involving current protesters, I assumed that your comments were in relation to the current situation. But if not, then antifa has been very quiet for the past few years. And it's really a misnomer to refer to antifa as an organization. As the justice dept. itself has noted, there isn't much if any hierarchy. Pretty much anyone can claim to be committing acts in its name. And how many deaths have been laid at the door of antifa activists?
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2 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:Using your logic, the same could be said for any president who nominates SCOTUS judges. Hey, whatever floats your boat. Carry on.
thaibeachlover was citing Trump appointing 2 judges as some sort of special achievement that distinguished him. It might have been special if he had appointed justices who might have begun to help drain the swamp. But he chose typical right wing judges for the post in the area where it matters the most: enabling corporations and weakening workers.
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1 minute ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:
I hate to rain on your Trump parade but actually POTUS only got two judges in because Mitch McConnell held up Obama's nomination for the bench and waited for the election...293 days and the Senate Judiciary committee never had a hearing on it (unprecedented and even McConnel admitted it was not a rule and should not be passed as a resolution on "Meet The Press".) So your boy The Donald didnt do anything spectacular, that credit goes to the senator from Kentucky. (and what comes around goes around I might add...just wait)
Whatever the reasons he got those to nominate those judges, they are typical right wing types supported by the Federalist Society. That means that they are anti-labor and pro-corporation. Trump dis nothing special. And as you pointed out, these nominations fell into his lap. It's not like he had to do undertake any initiative.
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7 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:
Hallooooo????? Nothing you just posted refutes anything I've already posted on the matter. At least one BLM group uses ActBlue to collect their funds. ActBlue then funnels those funds to whomever they want, to include Joe Biden. How else do you think such a weak candidate no one is excited about collected so much money for two months? It's going to take a little honesty and logic for you to figure this out. I know you can do it.
No. False. Act Blue does not funnel the money to anyone it wants. It acts as a collection agent for various progressive organization. And gives the money to the organizations on whose behalf it collected the money. You still haven't read that article. Are you emulating Trump and his disinclination to read even short stretches of prose.
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2 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:No, that is absolutely FALSE.
"Owens’ Instagram post features a video showing that BlackLivesMatter.com uses ActBlue for its donations. It then shows an OpenSecrets.org breakdown of expenditures by ActBlue made in the 2020 cycle; the top recipients are the presidential campaigns of Sen. Bernie Sanders, former Vice President Joe Biden, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren."
So it's a matter of public record. You lose. So try and connect the dots: donations to Black Lives Matter are collected by ActBlue. ActBlue donates to Democrat presidential campaigns, including that of Joe Biden. Not difficult to figure out, even with the hilarious attempts by factcheck.org to obfuscate.
Wouldn't it be easier for you to simply admit and accept the truth?
It's funny. You accused me of not reading that article but it's clearly you who haven't. Act Blue is an umbrella organization that helps collect funding for various progressive group. It distributes those funds to the groups those funds were donated to. So the fact that Act Blue distributed money to the DNC has nothing at all to do with the fact that Act Blue also distributed money to BLM. The figures were given in the article that you have yet to read.
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Hundreds of scientists say coronavirus is airborne, ask WHO to revise recommendations: NYT
in World News
Posted
Wow. A doctor. He wears a white coat just like a scientist. But I doubt that your doctor is an expert in virology and epidemiology.