2009

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I've lived in many countries and all had racists. The worst were not white people.

The only people in the world who are taught that racism is morally wrong is white people in a few countries (e.g. UK, America, Canada, New Zealand etc. etc.)

People from other places think nothing of racism.

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1 minute ago, placeholder said:

"Perhaps, it's worse for other women. Maybe my ex got it easy."

This is laughable.

 

How about you made a fetus. It's up to you.

 

 

I don't really get what your trying to say here.

It's not very coherent.

30 minutes ago, placeholder said:

In fact, childbirth is completely painless!

Yup, that's actually what the ex said.

In hospital 20 mins then our kid popped out. No joke. I couldn't believe how quickly it was over.

No epidural or any other painkillers. 

She took it in her stride. Which was surprising cos she's one of these skinny Thai women with a 26 inch waist and weighs just a little over 40 kilo.

I know in the movies they make it look like a terrible ordeal, but I've only witnessed it once and it was nothing like in the movies 

Perhaps, it's worse for other women. Maybe my ex got it easy.

Aside from that, I am not sure your argument makes sense.

Childbirth not being the most enjoyable thing on Earth isn't a great argument for abortion being so easy and accessable. 

I think abortion is okay, but it should be more regulated and I don't think everyone is entitled to an abortion.

You made a baby, you gotta be responsible.

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

If the fat guy did a runner, would you deny the woman the choice of an abortion?  Both are equally responsible, but only one is forced to deal with the consequences.

I've already said if a father is present he should have a say numerous times.

Try reading.

I am not against abortion altogether 

1 minute ago, heybruce said:

"Unless she's at high risk of health complications, where's the burden of pregnancy?"

 

Seriously?  If you were passing a kidney stone the size of a melon, wouldn't you consider that a burden?

 

"The other parent pays child support, obviously, in an ideal world."

 

But we don't live in an ideal world, do we?  Treating it as if it were is idiotic.

In case you hadn't noticed women's bodies are supposed to be able to give birth. The birthing canal opens up wide to accommodate.

Their ain't trying to squeeze a kidney stone through their urethra, lol

Right now, in most western countries, it is an ideal world for women:

- Get pregnant and have an abortion, no questions asked, easy peasy, like going to get a tooth out.

- Or have the baby and get child support. Even when a woman commits statutory rape the minor has to pay child support when he comes of age, lol.

It's a perfect world for them. They just don't want to lose an ounce of privilege. That's what this is all about.

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I guess you haven't spent much, if any,  time with pregnant women if you think it's just about having a big belly.

 

I have, in fact.

I get that there's morning sickness, weird cravings, waddling around with a big belly.

Really not much different from being a fat guy with a bit of a hangover.

But look, if you have sex and get pregnant it's a natural consequence. And there's nothing wrong with it.

Also, I am sure you know many women get abortions because they don't wants to be mothers at that time, not because they don't want to be pregnant for a few months.

And there's nothing wrong with an abortion if there's no father willing to raise the child present to object, or if she's a high risk for complications, obviously.

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

"You" can be used as a substitute for one if no one specific person is being replied to. But you were engaged in a 2 way colloquy with BruceH. So, it's use is inadvisable.

This is what I said:

"But if course, it's your business when child support is sought after.'

If someone doesn't understand this, they're either not a native speaker, or just pretending to not understand.

Absolutely nothing wrong with this usage. It's amazing the lengths people will go to in a discussion, lol

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Really? Because the burden of pregnancy's is equally shared. And another glaring fault in your argument is that what to do in the case of a deadlock? You do understand that given that 2 people are involved,  a deadlock is a distinct possibility.

Unless she's at high risk of health complications, where's the burden of pregnancy?

Having a big belly? Having a large belly for a few months? Is that it?

By deadlock, you mean there's one parent who wants the child?

That's easy: the child is born and the parent who wants the child, raises the child.

The other parent pays child support, obviously, in an ideal world.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

Who is saying it is none of my business?

Women say abortion none of men's business.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

 

No one  is seeking child support from me.  Where do you get your strange assumptions?

Here are the definitions of the word, "you"

1.

used to refer to the person or people that the speaker is addressing.

"are you listening?"

2.

used to refer to any person in general.

"after a while, you get used to it"

Which way do you think it was it used in my sentence? (Hint: I wasn't talking about you specifically, obviously)

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

Unless you believe that the man should have the final say, what's your point?

I think if a father is present he should have equal say (health issues aside, of course)

Makes you wonder why almost 80% of accidents involve motorcycles? ????

14 hours ago, connda said:

Nothing new.  It's the annual "7 days of death."

Should really rename the holiday.

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

"Give fathers a say, and I'll think about it."

 

If it were possible to transfer the fetus to the fathers and let them carry it to term and beyond I might agree with you.

Why would you take an interest in something that they are saying is none of your business??!

But if course, it's your business when child support is sought after.

54 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

You people are all silly money wasters.  I buy New Zealand Rib Eye.  130b buys me about 280grams of steak. 

 

I know where to buy food here, and it's not always Tops or Lotus's or Villa Market.  My meat costs a hell of a lot less than what they charge, sometimes by half. 

 

Just heavily salt your steak and let it sit overnight.  Then let it warm to room temperature before heating a cast iron skillet and searing both sides properly. 

 

That's it.  Salt, pepper, and steak sauce, and you have a perfectly cooked steak. 

 

Silly people, keep wasting your money with the nag flesh sold at Tops. 

 

Not me. 

Where do you get it, out of interest?

I'd like to try it.

You tell him, Buddy.

Never insult the cheapness of a man's meat.

I rub that baby with a lil' all American sweet BBQ sauce that I got Stateside, add a lil' extra sugar, leave that baby to marinade a while.

Put it in a lil' hot pan, and lets that baby fry, then take it out the pan slice it up immediately.

Then I take some lil' pancakes I made earlier, and roll the slices of steak up in a lil' parncake, and put a cocktail stick through 'em. You gotta eat food on a stick.

I call it a 'steakey-doodle', then once it's been named appropriately, I can consume the product.

Might dip it in a lil' syrup or something as I am eatin'

6 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

You keep using the word "punish", but that is not what is happening. Nobody is being punished. However, they ARE being forced to be responsible for their actions.  No woman in Florida can be made to carry a pregnancy if she doesn't want to. She has 6 weeks to decide. The men in the equation are the ones with no power. They have no say in whether or not the abortion happens, and also no say after the baby is born.

Exactly!

They say father's shouldn't have any say whatsoever, yet they seem to expect men to support abortion. Lol

Why would we care, if it's none of our business?

Her body, her choice, her business. 

 I ain't voting for it.

Give fathers a say, and I'll think about it.

3 minutes ago, Shwaman said:

I've been reading everyone spouting off about helmets for at least nine years. My wife and I rode to the US for at least 10 years and logged over 100,000 miles on   separate bikes. I guarantee you she could outride anyone on this forum.

    Why? Helmet free states ! One of the only reasons to God bless America.  Individual choice. Personally I'd ratther die quickly  than have a brain bucket keep me alive as a non functioning paraplegic.  Personal choice. 

  Oh! The Thais are people too ! They make the same choices ( their unenforceable laws notwithstanding) . Sanctimonious condescension from pious all knowing ex.....? foreigners only speaks to a colonial mindset that believes nobody can figure out how to run their culture unless it mirrors my own. 

  None of us are getting out of here alive.  Fun and feedom of choice in between.

Fair point.

Would be nice if they'd make parents put helmets on their kids though 

4 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Amazing Thailand did a good job of getting people to ware a mask, why not helmets? I also think them helmets for a couple hundred Baht should be banned 

I know, amazing isn't it?

They are still wearing masks, even now!

Yet, no helmets. Splat!

I think it's not considered cool to wear a helmet.

You remember when you were a kid and you were embarrassed to be seen in a bicycle helmet? I think Thais are like that.

Adolescents. Country of adolescents.

6 hours ago, it is what it is said:

 

why does the media, persist with inaccurate reporting, statistically there is very little difference in the number of accidents during songkran compared to the rest of the year, in fact the number occasionally goes down.

Got any facts or credible source for this?

You know, as per the forum rules.

14 minutes ago, candide said:

So, as noticed by placeholder, he did  ot say he will interfere. That's only your interpretation. However, he clearly made a reference to the Constitution. Does the Constitution allow a president to interfere?

Anyway, a biased interpretation of a not very clear statement does not prove anything. How exactly did he interefere and what is the evidence? You have nothing.

Lol.

I am not even trying to prove he interfered by arresting Trump.

Where have I even attempted to show evidence that he did that??

(Though the timing is convenient, that's for sure)

What I am saying (multiple times already) is that it is unethical (suspicious even) for him to say that he'd do everything in his legal power to stop Trump becoming president again.

I don't think it's his job to do that. He should leave that to the voters because it's supposed to be a democracy.

Do you agree or disagree with that? Placeholder dodged this question. Will you?

9 minutes ago, DudleySquat said:

We don't use the word democrat to describe them anymore. 

Yeah, probably not very apt. Haha

What word do you use?

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

First off you're taking an awkward ad hoc quote and turning into a conspiracy theory. And he says "using the legitimate efforts of our constitution". That hardly sounds like a threat of skullduggery. And, as I also pointed out, this administration gave the US attorney for Delaware, who was appointed by Donald Trump, the final authority to decide whether Hunter Biden should be prosecuted."

Come back to us when you have some real evidence. Good luck with that.

You are missing the point.

Don't you think Biden should just focus on running the country, and let the next elections be decided by the voters?

(Rather than focusing his efforts on stopping Trump from being elected again.)

Doesn't this make you uncomfortable? Why is it Biden's job to do that?

Don't you think it's unethical for him to even state those intentions? Seems like a misuse of his power.

14 minutes ago, placeholder said:

He used the word "interfere"? Stop making things up.

He said this:

'We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power,by, if he does run, under the legitimate efforts of our constitution, does not become the next president again."

What does this sound like to you? Does this not sound like interference?

Shouldn't the people elect a president by voting in a democracy?

It is interference for a president to get in the way of democracy.