enyaw

Air france ow SGN - BKK start at $149.00 ex tax (US)

There's a pond full of ither airlines quoting $164.00.

Air france offer a return for just $140.00 ex tax.

Jetstar Asia ow SGN - SIN starts at $77.00 ex tax.

which is less than half the cost of the all the other ailines who are quoting $154.00 ex tax.

These are published fares, like you say you'll need a tour-op or agent in Vietnam for console fares.

Cebu pacific have low fares starting at 2400 bht ow before tax.

Cubu Airlines

Cebu Pacific, yes?

WHO CARES!!!!!

Mods close thread, NOT THAILAND RELATED

Last years thread this.

*Actually if you live in Grays or Manchester I can understand it.

Manchester's not so terrible.. on a sunny day like today.

This thread is funny. I wouldn't drink the tap water in Thailand, no way. Bottled water just simply tastes much better.

That's my problem. Bottled water has absolutely no taste (IMHO), or at best, tastes like distillated water. When I read the labels, it mostly described the water to having been treated with reverse osmosis, leaving absolutely nothing but H2O. Don't know if that is true, though, never made a test.

But why isn't there a decent mineral water in Thailand? I mean, water from an unpolluted spring, with minerals and taste and clean? Does someone know any?

I now buy a water branded "AURA", but still nothing like a good San Pellegrino.

Have you tried rainwater, it tastes just like tap water.

'ey up, enyaw, you a Nooten Eafer too? I've drunk Thai tap water and rain water for years because my tea always tasted like sh!t when I used bottled water. So far I haven't died a slow and agonising death.

Alreet mate, You can't beat a cup of Thai rainwater to quench your thirst on a hot sunny day can you.

Reports: Thaksin buys Manchester City

BANGKOK: Deposed Thai prime minister and football fan Thaksin Shinawatra, who once tried to purchase Liverpool, may be considering buying another English Premier League team, his lawyer hinted yesterday.

Noppadol Pattama would not confirm local press reports that the billionaire Thaksin, in exile in Britain since his September ouster, would try to buy a stake in Manchester City.

But he said Thaksin was considering a stake in an English club.

“He is looking to do some business, and it is possible that he will buy a team because he loves football,” Noppadol said.

“But I cannot confirm or deny it yet. It will be more clear in the next few weeks.”

Local media reported that Thaksin had already bought Manchester City, currently languishing at the bottom of the premiership, for six billion baht (US$184mil) with the help of investors in China and the Middle East.

The papers said that Fulham owner Mohammad Al Fayed, a friend of Thaksin, had also helped with the purchase.

– AFP

If this is true then good luck to him, he will certainly need it, apparently Pearce has just orded his players to drive around the M60 Manchester ring road like "mad men" as it's the only way they'll get 3 points.

This thread is funny. I wouldn't drink the tap water in Thailand, no way. Bottled water just simply tastes much better.

That's my problem. Bottled water has absolutely no taste (IMHO), or at best, tastes like distillated water. When I read the labels, it mostly described the water to having been treated with reverse osmosis, leaving absolutely nothing but H2O. Don't know if that is true, though, never made a test.

But why isn't there a decent mineral water in Thailand? I mean, water from an unpolluted spring, with minerals and taste and clean? Does someone know any?

I now buy a water branded "AURA", but still nothing like a good San Pellegrino.

Have you tried rainwater, it tastes just like tap water.

Air India and Kenya Airways are usually the cheapest.....

And, in my view, with good reason.

I've never flown with Air India or Kenya Airways, are they nutoriously bad then?

I'm thinking of flying to Kilimanjiro with Kenya? Dont have bamboo seats do they?

I read page one of this thread and had a thought. Some are saying when you live in a foreign country, you should learn the language, culture and customs.

Thats ok to do in most countries but not really necessary in a country where their economy is based mostly on tourism/expat currency as long as you live in a big Thai city that caters to farangs.

If your Thai in the USA, no one really cares where your from. They just expect you to speak English. If you don't they will look down on you and talk behind your back. Either way, your life will be harder in the USA if you can't speak English.

If your from the USA living in Thailand, as long as you have money, you don't need to speak Thai or learn their customs and culture unless it is something directly related to a Thai law such as lease majesty.

Learning would make your life easier but not required. Obey the laws of the land and immigration rules and you should be ok.

I think there are aspects of Thai customs and cultures that farangs enjoy such as Songran. However, there are things about their own culture they won't give up.

Being in Thailand gives many farangs a chance to enjoy a standard of living they would not be able to afford in their own country. For many (most), that and Thailand relaxed entertainment laws (bars and such) is why they are here.

Take away the standard of living and the "relaxed entertainment laws" and you would probably have Thailand to yourself.

For a country who's economy is built on tourism/expat currency, it would be an economic disaster for Thailand.

That's all beside the point.

That is the point.

What is? missing the point is the point?

OK. Sorry it wasn't clear for you. In Thailand, to live here, you don't have to learn the customs and culture as long as you live in a big city and have some money.

Do you get the point now?

It is customery in Thailand for the children who have been brought into life and nurtured by their parents to then return that favour and support them in old age. Where as in the west we have pension schemes and health insurance and in the UK the NHS, so our children dont have to bare that responsibility

I can understand the OP as he doesn't owe his inlaws anything and he's taking care of their daughter so why should he fork out everytime they need to visit the hospital? On the other hand though I can also see the problems this way of thinking likely going to cause.. I mean he married their daughter and now they are supposed to be a team and should offer help when needed and the loss of face of the wife who got 'lucky' and met a farang but hasn't contributed anything because her husband doesn't want to "assimilate"

Air India and Kenya Airways are usually the cheapest both of which are direct BKK - HKG.

I read page one of this thread and had a thought. Some are saying when you live in a foreign country, you should learn the language, culture and customs.

Thats ok to do in most countries but not really necessary in a country where their economy is based mostly on tourism/expat currency as long as you live in a big Thai city that caters to farangs.

If your Thai in the USA, no one really cares where your from. They just expect you to speak English. If you don't they will look down on you and talk behind your back. Either way, your life will be harder in the USA if you can't speak English.

If your from the USA living in Thailand, as long as you have money, you don't need to speak Thai or learn their customs and culture unless it is something directly related to a Thai law such as lease majesty.

Learning would make your life easier but not required. Obey the laws of the land and immigration rules and you should be ok.

I think there are aspects of Thai customs and cultures that farangs enjoy such as Songran. However, there are things about their own culture they won't give up.

Being in Thailand gives many farangs a chance to enjoy a standard of living they would not be able to afford in their own country. For many (most), that and Thailand relaxed entertainment laws (bars and such) is why they are here.

Take away the standard of living and the "relaxed entertainment laws" and you would probably have Thailand to yourself.

For a country who's economy is built on tourism/expat currency, it would be an economic disaster for Thailand.

That's all beside the point.

That is the point.

What is? missing the point is the point?

I read page one of this thread and had a thought. Some are saying when you live in a foreign country, you should learn the language, culture and customs.

Thats ok to do in most countries but not really necessary in a country where their economy is based mostly on tourism/expat currency as long as you live in a big Thai city that caters to farangs.

If your Thai in the USA, no one really cares where your from. They just expect you to speak English. If you don't they will look down on you and talk behind your back. Either way, your life will be harder in the USA if you can't speak English.

If your from the USA living in Thailand, as long as you have money, you don't need to speak Thai or learn their customs and culture unless it is something directly related to a Thai law such as lease majesty.

Learning would make your life easier but not required. Obey the laws of the land and immigration rules and you should be ok.

I think there are aspects of Thai customs and cultures that farangs enjoy such as Songran. However, there are things about their own culture they won't give up.

Being in Thailand gives many farangs a chance to enjoy a standard of living they would not be able to afford in their own country. For many (most), that and Thailand relaxed entertainment laws (bars and such) is why they are here.

Take away the standard of living and the "relaxed entertainment laws" and you would probably have Thailand to yourself.

For a country who's economy is built on tourism/expat currency, it would be an economic disaster for Thailand.

That's all beside the point.

Yeah not Panghan, you'll want somewhere easier to get to, with a connecting flight from bangkok maybe?

Back in the UK I would often nod in agreement at complaints that Immigrants did not appear to want to assimilate into British society.

In fact I actually asked a Pakistani why he and his family lived in UK but retained their Asian

customs........."Why should we" he replied " We don't like your Customs and Culture".

So I asked "Why are you here then?"

"Because we can have a better standard of living" was his reply.

Now I find myself seeing his point of view more clearly.......

I have almost no desire to 'Go native'. Although I respect Thai Culture, it is not MY Culture.

When I am inside my House, as far as I am concerned, IT IS ENGLAND!

I quite like Buddhism. But it is NOT my Religion. So I don't go to the Temple with my Wife.

I don't support MY Family in the UK. So why should I support HER Family, who are almost complete strangers?

But,I happily give my beloved Wife a better standard of living than she ever dreamed of.......

Yeah! Yeah! I hear the "When in Rome" brigade firing salvoes. But I don't think I am being unreasonable do you?

I worked very hard for every penny I have, and I object to the idea that I must now meekly hand it over.......After all if I get sick I will need it to pay the Hospital bills.

I believe these are the questions you should be asking yourself before you get involved with a Thai girl.

It's thier culture to take care of their elders, in this case it's not a question of not wanting to assimilate

it's got more to do with not wanting the responsibility of taking care of her parents.

Mind you though, if your beloved wife is English then your post would make more sense?

instead of calling my critique a piece of shit, why dont you help the man and offer reasons why a citychick would like vietnam.

Critique?! It's complete f*ckin' drivel!

Thai fly direct chiang mai to phuket but are pricey at a little over 5000 baht.

For those of us who live in Pattaya why don't Travel Agents organise an inclusive excursion to Phuket. Accommodation, Flights from Pattaya to Phuket with transport to and from airports??

The popularity of bookings from Pattaya to attend the pissup will be determined by the overall cost.

Come on all you travel specialist...its not rocket science!

what do you need a travel agent for..? Begsy Tours sounds good to me, I only regret I'm not there with yers!

Er. Thailand in June is low season...

The op was refering to it as being high season in the US, in other words there is many folk traveling out as it's holiday season in the US. Thailand in June is low season as you say but you have to consider the fact that the the flights between the US and BKK will be used up by passengers flying onto other destinations after a flight change in Bangkok.

the other thai teenagers

look at you enviously

yet your chin doesnt rise

you remain modest

i try to give you money

but you refuse and

say true love has no price

i have a surprise for your

birthday in three days

here is a hint -

Splash!

((i am getting us a yearly pass to So-Soy-Am Water Park))

Total waffle!

I believe there is a general turn down beginning to happen, but it is one that is subtly happening ... in fact it is happening in such a dribs and drab fashion that I reckon it will take about two years before the impact is 'really' felt to the degree that changes will have to happen to improve it.

possibly the saddest fact in this thread .........................................

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I also believe this to be true, the recent media highlight on air travel as a cause of global warming must surely have an impact on the numbers? Maybe not a great impact but still effectively a deterrent all the same, also the stong baht must be a factor.

Yes, PG are flying out of Suvarnabhumi.

There's a new ATM available at the recently opened Sawasdee Seaview Palace on Tubtim beach, it's in the restaraunt on the 25th floor

PS ... I have done overland and would NEVER put myself through that again!

My brother did the journey in the wet season and it took him over 10 hours in the back of a pick up. That was about 8 years ago, I did the same in about 3 hours a few years ago, I didn't think it was too bad but agree with you about flying down to PP an then up the Talay Sap by boat a much better way to do it.

12 hours for me in the rain ...... was in a bus

The roads out of Poipet are dirt ... there was a mud pit in the center of each village and we never got above 20kmh ... then a nice little stretch of asphalt at the cut off to battambang. Then out of that place it was mud again with one lane wooden bridges .... an hour or so further in one of the busses from the same company slid off the mud road and into a rice paddy. Our bus driver got a cable and pulled him out ... 2 more hours and we get to a traffic jam!

A traffic jam you say?! YES!

A lorry (big truck) had crashed axels deep through one of the one lane bridges .... The last 2 hours (after an hour wait) was 16 people to a pickup truck in the rain !

not a chance I'd do that again .... in any season

Well it just wasn't that bad when I did it.. simple as that. Set off from patters at 8.00 arrived check point around 11.00 took around 1hr 30 to get sorted with visa and have lunch. Share taxi to siem reap stopping off on the way for refreshing beers, arrived guest house at 4.30'ish, quick shower and change of clothes and made it just in time for sunset on mount bahkeng.. easy peasy japanesey.

PS ... I have done overland and would NEVER put myself through that again!

My brother did the journey in the wet season and it took him over 10 hours in the back of a pick up. That was about 8 years ago, I did the same in about 3 hours a few years ago, I didn't think it was too bad but agree with you about flying down to PP an then up the Talay Sap by boat a much better way to do it.