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1 hour ago, paddypower said:

do you really want to go down that rabbit hole? Trump escaped being impeached for 'incitement of insurrection' for having given a speech in which he encouraged a large crowd of his supporters near the White House to march to the Capitol, on Jan 6 and violently resist Congress’s certification of Biden’s victory—which many in the crowd then did. Yet to be decided judicially in Trump's other treasonous activities will be a ruling on his phone call to the Governor Georgia. '' I just want to find, uh, 11,780 votes, which is one more than [the 11,779-vote margin of defeat] we have, because we won the state." During the call, Trump falsely suggested that Raffensperger could have committed a criminal offense by refusing to overturn the state's election results.

No, he really didn't. He told his supporters that we are the party of law and order, and for protesters to make their voices heard "peacefully and patriotically" to complain about all the irregularities during that election, as a contrast to the uber violent leftist riots during Trump's term.

7 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Do some research on Jarod and Ivanka! Open your eyes!

Yes yes yes. But they can easily explain why they were paid. Something NOT ONE SINGLE biden bro is able to do in regard to the much denied and censored millions  from China, Russia and Ukraine. Countries we  are having major issues with - funnily enough.

You can't equate bluster with treason.

Rather have a President that falsely claims vast wealth to please his ego, than a corrupt one with vast inexplicable wealth and webs of shell companies and llc's funnelling cash to family members. For obvious reasons.

Basic politics 101

34 minutes ago, placeholder said:

For those of us who prefer to use credible sources, here is a link to an explanation of where Joe Biden's wealth comes from:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2020/10/22/how-the-bidens-earned-167-million-after-leaving-the-white-house/?sh=1c14eda81e42

For anything biden or democrat related Forbes is not a reliable source. This article you linked made numerous false and disinfo claims trying to distance poor Hunter from that dastardly laptop over a year after the FBI authenticated it.

The FBI were not examining whether the laptop was Russian disinformation as Forbes falsely claims as they verified it was authentic in 2019.

"Shapley testified that “the FBI became aware that a repair shop had a laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden and that the laptop might contain evidence of a crime” in October 2019. He added that just one month later “the FBI verified its authenticity in November of 2019 by matching the device number against Hunter Biden's Apple iCloud ID.”

He said that FBI case agent Josh Wilson called repair shop owner John Paul Mac Isaac on Nov. 6, 2019 “and basically got the device numbers from him.” Shapley further testified that “then we bounced those device numbers off third-party records, and it showed that it was, in fact, Hunter Biden's device."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/10/16/reports-fbi-probing-if-ny-posts-hunter-biden-email-dump-was-part-of-foreign-influence-campaign/

Dont confuse propaganda for credible sources. For anything biden, the credible sources ie those that did their research and have been factually accurate in coverage over the past few years include Miranda Devine, Glen Greenwald and Greg Kelly. They do not include CNN, MSNBC, Forbes, Mediabiasfactcheck and other outlets that have dodged fact to bring false narratives that make biden bros happy.

I think it's fair to call the modern day democrats as fascists. Why?

They tried creating a Ministry Of Truth with a notorious laptop denier conspiracy theorist and irrational Trump hater as the head.

They censor fact whenever it is not beneficial to the party narrative. Such as the corruption laptop, bribery allegations and evidence etc

 They have weaponized the DOJ to protect crimes by the good people(letting the statute run out on hunters tax avoidance from burisma bucks) which benefits the insider elites while attacking political opponents.

They have denied the legitimacy of elections they did not win, while having epic melt downs when their opponents behaved in a similar manner.

The fascist party supporters mock and abuse those with different ideas, having convinced themselves that all the intelligent people agree with them and their opponents are uninformed idiots.

If it walks like a duck...

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

First off, where is the evidence that any of this money came from the governments of China, Russia or Ukraine? Was it a crime to do business with companies located in China, Russia, or Ukraine? Because if it was, thousands of business people should now be occupying jail cells. In fact, the so called Russian payment came from an oligarch who fled Russia because of a dispute she had with the Russian govt. She's wanted for arrest by the Russian govt. She's lived in the UK since 2010. And that's where that payment came from.

The companies CEFC and Burisma were effectively state controlled. 

"It has a rare contract to store part of the nation’s strategic oil reserve, gained financing from the state-owned China Development Bank (CDB) and has hired a number of former top officials from state-owned energy companies, CEFC officials said. It also has layers of Communist Party committees"

across its subsidiaries – more than at many private Chinese companies."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cefc-china-idUSKBN14X0B5

You can certainly see why the only option was to deny the payments were made, seeing as they(along with the web of 20 shell companies, and the frequent false denials of any of this having ever happened) are impossible to explain or justify.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

This nonsense has been tried on already. There was nothing in Hunter Biden's email that required access to those documents. That information could easily have been gathered from news sources and Wikipedia. All that accusation has to support it is speculation.

Both you and I know in our hearts that is just not true. That email reads nothing like the rest. Let's stop playing games shall we.

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

ren't just for payments to the Biden family but to Hunter Biden's associates as well.

But whatever the amount that ended up with Hunter Biden and 2 others connected to the Biden family, your contention that this qualifies as evidence that Joe Biden was in on it is nonsense.

Just so ill informed. Is it intentional? Hunter and 2 family members you claim(after having changed stance a dozen times already from the lappy being russian disinfo and no payments to now payments being made but only to 2)

Lets try TWELVE not 2. Including young children.

“I mean, it’s the entire family,” Comer said. “And there isn’t a single one of those family members that had the ability to do anything to influence foreign policy other than the big guy, Joe Biden.”

https://nypost.com/2023/04/23/at-least-a-dozen-biden-relatives-will-be-exposed-in-foreign-money-deals-james-comer?utm_source=nypost&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

There's a ton of unequivocal evidence to convict Trump in the Mar-a-Lago case. There is nothing like that that has so far been revealed in the case of Joe Biden. No good evidence at all. 

Wrong. There is evidence the stolen classified documents next to the corvette in the house Hunter was renting wefe used. This is TREASON. Way beyind the wildest false accusations about Trump.

https://nypost.com/2023/01/25/suspicious-hunter-biden-email-may-be-based-on-classified-info-gop-senator?utm_source=nypost&utm_campaign=android_nyp&utm_medium=social

Ps. Read it fast. You are not supposed to know about this. 

The legal attack on biden's only real opponent in next years election, and thus not allowing him a fair shake at the election(just like last time with the 51 experts in disinformation) is woeful. 

 If the stakes weren't so high it would be amusing seeing what appears to be the most corrupt president ever attacking the least corrupt one to protect "democracy"  !!

Worth noting the legal attack on bidens opponent has worked perfectly. 5 of the 6 top threads are about Trump and bidens corruption and the coverup(an even worse crime) doesnt get a look in. A perfect distraction. Fascinating.

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

To be clear I am referring to your post and what Victor Shokin said yesterday, ie he has no facts just belief. His words. Sounds familiar to me.

Are you unable to answer the question as to why the bidens were paid vast inexplicable sums of money from America's adversaries such as China, Russia and Ukraine?

Worth noting, unlike the biden fans Victor Shokin has not had to change his story a dozen times.

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

He's already made enough statements on the media over the last couple of days and admits he has no facts to his accusations just a belief. Great for FOX though, more unsubstantiated allegations to come.....lol

To be clear. Are you STILL claiming that this $30MILLION so far found paid to the biden family was paid for no reason at all? And the denials that this money was paid and censorship of the fact it was paid was legitimate and authentic after reviewing facts and evidence? And you are easily able to explain why this huge amount of money that the forum's biden fans who all guaranteed it was just fake news and was definitely not paid was paid in the first place?

 I think in reality we are all on the same page here. 

Seems Victor Shokin is about to do an interview on Fox news in the next couple of hours! 

 This will be amusing watching the preposterous false claim that the bidens got Shokin fired for not investigating the firm that was paying bidens unqualified son $1 MILLION a year hard enough get blown out if the water, again. 

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12448553

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

So in a nutshell: The appeal cannot be for frivolous reasons.

Unlike the original raft of charges then. Being unable to appeal nonsensical and novel legal moonshots sounds fitting for "justice" under the fascist biden regime. 

24 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Let's recap the bidding:

 

Trump tried to illegally overturn the 2020 election, including inciting a riot at the US Capitol, where people died.

 

Trump encouraged fake electors to send counterfeit Elector forms to the US government, claiming they were the real electors. 

 

Trump tried to pressure the Georgia SoS to "find" enough votes for Trump to win.

 

Trump took 100s of classified documents to his hotel and tried to hide them from the FBI, despite a subpoena.

 

Shall I continue?

 

Absolutely false from start to finish.

26 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That woman was never indicted, never had to get a mug shot etc.

 

Do I have to wonder why he has been indicted so many times right at the start of the election cycle?

 

I hope all this comes back to bite the haters and he wins. I didn't use to want him to stand again, but this is so outrageous that I now hope he wins and deals to a few people after.

Well said. I also didnt want him to run until this insane persecution kicked into top gear. The left have ended democracy in the USA imo, due to their believing of 7 years of conspiracies and hoaxes.

25 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager, went to prison.

 

Yes, the 2016 campaign was a long time ago.

 

The Mueller investigation described "collusion" with the Russians. DOJ policy forbade Mueller from indicting Trump.

Was this "collusion" you falsely claim regarding Trump trying to game an election? From memory when the Mueller investigation ended the result was "no obstruction no collusion". 

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

44 other Presidents didn’t try to overthrow elections.

Trump didnt try overthrowing an election, he was sure he won. Just like Stacy Abrams. Worth noting your democrats spent 2016-2020 denying Trumps legitimacy and even impeaching him twice on what turned out to be falsehoods. When the left try overthrowing elections its all fine and dandy. 

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

What tricks did the dems pull out of the bag to make sure that didn't happen again in 2020?

 

Trump has been found guilty of fraud in civil suits. He had to pay 25 million to victims of his university fraud. He has also been found guilty of sexual assault. Stop misleading everybody.

Dishonestly explaining away the tome of evidence showing a candidate was compromised by foreign adversaries as russian disinformation as starters. Look at the mess that caused!!!

6 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The Biden camp will pull all their dirty tricks out the bag to make sure that doesn't happen. 

Trump, an upstanding, ex-President of the US, has no criminal record and has 91 felonies thrown at him before he runs for re-election 555. You couldn't make this up. Sleepy could have been a bit more discrete about it. 

Worth noting these 91 charges are mainly novel and yet untested legal theories created to get Trump. Great time to try out legal moonshots and adventures.

6 minutes ago, heybruce said:

There is no educating people who live in an echo chamber.

People who have been on the wrong side of every major issue have no ability to educate those who have been factually correct.

6 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Yeah, nah. I just don't like people who commit crimes against democracy and love Putin.

To be fair, persecuting your chief political opponent after 6 years of other credibility destroying BS hoaxes IS a crime against democracy.

Let the people decide at the ballot box. Bit late for that now after this election interference. Democracy doesn't mean the left running roughshod over the laws to finally nail their nemesis(on accused offenses our own team has also committed).

Pure tyranny. I wonder whether anyone cheering the weaponization of the justice sytem is basing their sheer loathing of the man - and justification for this unprecedented coordinated attack on an ex Pres - on facts, rather than a well crafted narrative that paints him as an immoral and corrupt psychopath? Somehow I doubt it.