Liverpool Lou

If I Recall Correctly ???? International Integrated Reporting Council if I remember correctly!

How many units did you use? Show us your bill. 3.84 is very low. His rate seems about right. My bill for June 22 worked out at B3.77 per unit. November's was the equivalent of B3.83 per unit.

"Rates by landlord are arbitrary". Those rates are also illegal but they get away with it.

If this is just two empty magazines then this is way over the top. They weren't empty.

I'd guess not if the driver's details were supplied to the police.

They weren't empty.

As many eventually do myself included. And missed by Thailand so much!

So? Are they illegal?

Can you not see the difference between the 10 million legally owned guns in Thailand and illegally 'smuggled' bullet magazines?

It happens, usually in the USA, but they just confiscate them and let you go? Would that happen in the US if the two magazines were discovered by US Immigration when a foreigner was trying to enter the country with them?

Two magazines, not two bullets, bit of a difference. Bit more difficult to "accidentally" miss those.

How can an ex-police officer legally have an Israeli police ID?

"If your Thai national you can drive around all day with a loaded gun...". Of course they can if they're licenced, guns are not illegal in Thailand. Smuggling ammunition into Thailand is illegal.

What makes you think that Thais illegally possessing guns don't get locked up?

Vorayuth is not in Thailand so the Thai authorities have their hands tied, the Israeli was/is so the RTP could prosecute him. Vorayuth has not got away with it yet, five more years to go.

Maybe two bullet magazines are indicative of something more serious than a couple of forgotten bullets?

B0llocks. That's only until they're apprehended, then the same thing happens as happened to this Israeli.

He will go back to Israel with a wonderful memory of his stupidity.

While on bail. Normally bail in Thailand does not have house arrest requirements, so not so much of a nice touch.

Not unless Thailand allows it! From the Eli Cohen case... "In a letter to Cohen's lawyer, Yoram Sheftel, the head of the State Prosecution's international division, Irit Kahan, wrote that "the State of Israel's official policy was and remains that an Israeli citizen should be tried by the country whose laws he broke, where evidence has been collated against him, and where an effective prosecution can be brought against him".

The answer is to drive in the UK on your Thai license and avoid all traffic fines as they don't bother to fine overseas visitors for minor traffic offences. That's only the answer if you seriously think that UK police would not be curious about an apparently British person presenting a Thai licence. That would just be the start of your traffic stop. Overseas licence holders do get tickets for traffic offences; if the officer establishes that the offender has a satisfactory UK address a ticket can be issued, if he decides that the address is not satisfactory he will require a roadside deposit – for speeding this will be £100. However, if the offence is to be prosecuted at court the deposit will be £300. If you can't pay the deposit immediately, your vehicle may be prohibited and immobilised.

Interesting... So theoretically, IF we hold a UK licence, thats the ONLY licence we can hold. No, I did not say that. Holding licences from other countries is legal but a UK resident with a UK licence has to use their UK licence when driving there.

Do you have any agents recommended in Pattaya for an "organized" run with guarantees? No. I don't, I don't live in Pattaya. I doubt that any border run company will guarantee your being stamped back in but it's their job (and in their interests) to advise you whether they will likely be able to sort your problems at the border before you get stranded.

I wonder what a UK policeman would do if he stopped you for a minor traffic infringement? mandatory fine on a UK DL, or lots and lots of paperwork on a Thai DL..... UK residents have to use their UK driving licence when in the UK, you don't get the choice of which one to present. If the normal police checks show that you're not registered at the address on your licence you'll have to try to explain why you're using a licence with that address (changes of address have to be notified to the DVLA). When you can't, you'll be done for driving without a valid licence in addition to any other offences.

Well thought out advice, many thanks. I am approaching expiry of pink paper licence valid until 70 years. Haven't driven either in UK or abroad for ten years so need to decide what to do. Well, it's advice but not exactly "well thought out advice" even though that's what a lot of us do! It is illegal if you're not resident in the UK and, if discovered, such as in a normal police traffic stop, your licence would be invalid.