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I am doing a house build in Pattaya.  I have one contractor who I would like to consider but he does not do pools. 

I have not been successful in the past on this forum asking for contractor suggestions.  I get mostly peoples opinions rather than suppliers.   

Does anyone have a questimate as to what the approximate price to build a pool like shown in Pattaya and who would be suggested contractors.  This would be a tile skimmer pool. 

7 hours ago, webfact said:

, to generate more revenue to fund old age pensions

Rule #1 when trying to increase tax always come up with a good cause that the money will be used for. 

Rule #2 After tax is passed ignore the reason why the additional money has been raised. 

Rule #3  Propose even further tax increase using again the same reason as number #1 to justify the tax increase and repeat. Rule #2

It is the same in every country and every government.  

A private company or person looks to reduce their spending and expenses.  A government looks to expand its spending. 

9 hours ago, KannikaP said:

At least I put Haha & 555

Well I am glad you are easily amused.  Someday I would hope to return the favor. 

1 hour ago, Furioso said:

Planet Kitchen on Thepprasit Road. 

Are they good?  We are meeting with the owner.  I was under the impression that they too were really just ordering kitchens built by some company and not truly an onsite carpenter who can adjust to any imperfections in the construction of the home or build anything that truly is custom.

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

seem to remember some guy in Israel a while back, but I don't know if he is still around.   Haha 555

For whatever reason the people on this forum seemed inclined not to be helpful but rather make what they believe are humorous comments, I guess just to see their post.  

I am looking for a good carpenter in the Pattaya area to build kitchen and bathroom cabinets.  I have been to the big box stores and for the most part they carry overpriced poorly constructed pre-builts. 

On 8/18/2023 at 4:58 PM, sometimewoodworker said:

You clearly don’t know what you are talking about, sure the product may come out of the same factory but it usually isn’t exactly the same product if you actually knew what you are talking about you would know that. Often the No name items are rejects from the QC of the supposedly the same brand.

I found a company in Bangkok that carries every brand.  They responded that the companies have to comply with the TIS  Thai Industrial Standards  816-2538.

Said that warranties and branding represent the biggest difference in pricing.  Some due to shape but mentioned three brand names that he said were all virtually equivalent despite price differences.  

 

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

In a short period of time this topic has gone from coffee to luggage to cooker hoods to plywood, yet nothing about the OP’s question.

You are correct.  If I didn't know anything about where to look for a water tank or had no experience with either a P&S or D-Home  I would not reply for I have nothing of value to add.  However, this seems to be a routine for responders to posts.  They like to interject their opinion rather than respond to the question that an OP has asked. 

It must be because we are in Thailand.  It is a trait  here that no matter how straight you ask a question, you never get a straight answer. 

1 hour ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Take plywood, it’s all produced in the same plants but there can be so many variables that are specified by the buyer that it would not be unusual for the wholesale price to vary by 10 or more times between runs from the same plan

Did you even read my post? 

 I don't know if the quality is the same as DOS or WAVE but I want to see in person.  


Its amazing you have the ability to ascertain that the quality of these products are inferior despite never seeing them.  I am not as skilled as you and I actually have to see the products in person and to the best extent possible determine if they are inferior, as good or better. 

Now you seem to believe that just because you pay more for a product that somehow it is better.  I have no delusions that such a mindset is accurate.  Paying more only guarantees you have less money in your pocket and is no guarantee you got a superior product. 

But then again, I don't have your ability to ascertain quality without even seeing the product. 

37 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

“the price indicates quality”

Ok Bob Villa.  Again I didn't ask for your "opinion"  I did ask where a person could view in person.  I can tell you that in today's world a substantial amount of product is all produced in the same factory.  

If you go to Homepro or Thai Watsadu they have their "house names"  

For decades Sears in the USA did not make a single product but created the illusion of "quality" by putting its name Kenmore on it. 

Though price "may" be an indicator of product quality.  It is just as likely to be like Hafele here in Thailand a brand name that gets its products from the same factories as everyone else. 

1 hour ago, sometimewoodworker said:

The price indicates the quality, DOS and WAVE aren’t jacking up the price because of the name.

 

They price "may" indicate quality.  So are you telling me the construction quality of a Louis Vuitton luggage is better than a Samsonite? 

In today's world a huge proportion of companies,  I don't know about WAVE or DOS are nothing but marketing and distribution firms.  They contract with a manufacturer and have them stamp their name on it. 

I can tell you I was in the furniture business.  I bought mattresses direclty from the manufactuer.  The mattresses were identical except for the cover of the outside fabric.  They would put whatever name and logo you wanted.  So you put a more luxurious cover and jack up the price but what you got was the same mattress. 

I looked at three absolutely identical range hoods.  They all had different prices on them depending on whether they were a "brand name" or an off brand.  

In any event I didn't ask for a lesson in getting what you pay for.  I specifically asked where I might be able to view the product first hand and make my own determination if the product quality was comparable. 

In the case of WAVE and DOS they sell through retailers like Thai Watsadu and Home Pro.  As a former retailer myself I can tell you the markup is not 10% to 15%.  When they run a 50% off sale or buy one get one, they are not losing money on it. 

Just now, petermik said:

Pay for quality...not worth the risk

Thanks with that advise and 100 baht I can get a cup of coffee at McDonalds. 

I know I can go to Homepro, Thai Watsadu, etc for a water tank.  I am building a house and need two septic tanks and two water tanks. I see on Facebook ads for brands like D-One and P&S that are much less expensive.  I don't know if the quality is the same as DOS or WAVE but I want to see in person.  

Does anyone know know of a good source for tanks here in Pattaya and does anyone have experience with P&S or D-One.  

1 hour ago, Social Media said:

Eight months after 2023 kicked off with widespread recession calls across Wall Street, the Atlanta Fed is projecting the economy will grow nearly 6% in the third quarter.

This reminds me of the following quote from Winston Churchill. 

2 hours ago, Tropposurfer said:

C-8 being the nerve root to the hands, I think

I never thought of that, but she complains about a stiff neck also.  

3 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Is it possible she turns in her sleep at night and ends up -- one at a time -- sleeping on her hands

No she experiences it in the morning upon waking.  But by moving her hands the numbness goes away.  It resurfaces when she goes out in the yard and uses any implement like a broom, shovel, rake etc.  That makes me think that when her fingers apply pressure that it is causing impingement of a nerve.  

I tried several home tests on her for carpal tunnel but she said it did not trigger the numbness.  She says it is all five fingers.  I have had carp;al tunnel which impacts only the pinkie, ring, and middle finger.  I am told that ulnar tunnel impacts the thumb and pointer fingers.  So either it is something other than nerve impingment or perhaps she has both carpal and ulnar tunnel impingement. 

14 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Best to see an ortho specializing in hands.

Thank You.  

9 hours ago, Sheryl said:

A neurologist is not who to see for this but rather an orthopedist,

Thanks Sheryl, 

If it was a problem with an ulnar or carpal tunnel wouldn't it be a neurologist that performed the surgery to eliminate the pinched nerve.  Maybe mine years ago was an orthopedic surgeon and I was thinking wrong that they were neurologists. 

3 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

diabetes?

She is 52 but I would not think she has diabetes.  We were just in Jomtien Hospital back in February and had complete physicals including blood work. 

2 minutes ago, BritTim said:

Before applying for an extension by reason of retirement, you must apply for a Non O visa using form TM87

You certainly could be correct.  It was 5 years ago.  I only recall the man at immigration first saying I had to apply for a 90 day extension.  

As mentioned the only thing that differs is the semantics.  Visa vs Extension.  

If I obtain a visa to stay in lets say the USA.  Would that be any different if they termed it an extension of my tourist visa.  

One way or another, you apply twice.  

I know you can get "ripped off" by going to Bangkok Hospital Pattaya.  However does someone know if any of the other hospitals have neurologist that can test for nerve damage.  I suspect she has either Carpal Tunnel or Ulnar Tunnel or perhaps both.  

 

17 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

It appears you visited immigration and supplied income proof and used TM87 form to obtain 90 day non immigrant O visa entry stamp (cost 2,000 baht).  Then returned 75 days later to apply for a one year extension of stay for retirement using new income proof and TM7 form at cost of 1,900 bah

You are probably correct.  The term Visa and Extension to Stay are often used to describe each other.  The TM-7 calls it an extension to stay.  I can just recall that the immigration officer at Chonburi said I would have to apply for a 90 day visa then apply for the 1 year Non-O.  He could have been somewhat innacurate in that the 90 day granted me the Non-O and the second a one  year extension.  

17 hours ago, BritTim said:

explanation was accurate, though the visa application for the Non O at Jomtien often differs from the standard practice at other offices.

It could very well have been.  The "terminology" here in Thailand gets intermixed.  

At the Chonburi immigration office THEY used the term that I would first have to apply for a 90 day extension before applying for the long term Non-O visa.  Perhaps the first 90 day extension is the non-0 and that the one year is an extension. 

Either way the only thing different is the "semantics"  You have to apply twice.  One for 90 days and then again after only 75 days.  Now perhaps from a technical standpoint the 90 day visa is the Non-O retirement visa.  That does not make very good sense in that who would consider a visa lasting only 90 days to be "retirement' 

The TM. 7 form one way or always refers to it as an extension to stay.  

The application says "extension of stay"  TM.7 TM.7 APPLICATION FOR EXTENSION OF TEMPORARY STAY IN THE KINGDOM .


 

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Here is what happened to you...

You entered Thailand with tourist visa.

That gave you a 60 day permit stamp.

No it is not language based.  Perhaps your immigration area has different rules than Chonburi. 

I arrived in Thailand on a 30 day from the USA that was 5 years ago.  I went to immigration.  They told me I had to first do an extension for 90 days which as essentially the same process as a non-0 visa.  I had to go to the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok and obtain an income affidavit and had to go to the ministry of foreign affairs the following day to have it legalized.  Since I did not have an open bank account the affidavit took its place.  At the end of 75 days I had to return to immigration and file for a one year.  Now perhaps you are considering the first extension to be obtaining the Non-O.  Perhaps you are correct that the 90 day was actually a Non-O visa but that is not how they explained it to me at the time.  They said, I would have to apply for a 90 day extension then after 75 days apply for the 1 year Non-O.  Even if you are correct.  The difference is only in the terminology not in the process.  You go first for the 90 day, then apply for a one year.  

To apply for the 1 year, I again had to go to Bangkok obtain an income affidavit, and get it legalized.  So two submissions only 75 days apart from each other.