Very true about in high demand bikes! Dealers want to sell on finance, much more profitable for them. Kickback from bank, and you must buy the ”registration package” too… including theft insurance the first years, among other <deleted>. Could be in the 5000-15000 range for a Forza!
And most Forzas I saw was in ugly grey/dark/black, or dull colour schemes…
When the average cash buying farang walks in and want to buy, they must cover their losses and mark up the list price. I can understand that!
I ended up buying a used bike advertised on fb marketplace, direct from the thai guy who bought new.
I checked the bike, wife checked everything else. Very important!