Some people just like to moan, the OP I hasten to add is not one of them. What gets me is the people who moan about Thailand but don't leave. If they find it so distasteful then why do they remain here? I get the impression that ones who complain have never really left their own country. Maybe Thailand is the first country they have visited. I would also think that many of them live their life around the bars which is not a representation of the country. This of course is only my opinion and I am sure others will tell me I don't know what I am talking about.