Jeff the Chef

Correct, I have no sympathy for either side, my sympathy is for the innocents on both sides, whereas you only support your sides actions without any regard for views that don't fit your narrative.

Just stated a fact, thanks for the double points though ????

261 posts in this topic from you and that's it, any other views are "Woke scum" Joint Statement by Harvard Palestine Solidarity Groups on the Situation in Palestine We, the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence. Today’s events did not occur in a vacuum. For the last two decades, millions of Palestinians in Gaza have been forced to live in an open-air prison. Israeli officials promise to “open the gates of hell,” and the massacres in Gaza have already commenced. Palestinians in Gaza have no shelters for refuge and nowhere to escape. In the coming days, Palestinians will be forced to bear the full brunt of Israel’s violence. The apartheid regime is the only one to blame. Israeli violence has structured every aspect of Palestinian existence for 75 years. From systematized land seizures to routine airstrikes, arbitrary detentions to military checkpoints, and enforced family separations to targeted killings, Palestinians have been forced to live in a state of death, both slow and sudden. Today, the Palestinian ordeal enters into uncharted territory. The coming days will require a firm stand against colonial retaliation. We call on the Harvard community to take action to stop the ongoing annihilation of Palestinians. African American Resistance Organization Bengali Association of Students at Harvard College Harvard Arab Medical and Dental Student Association Harvard Chan Muslim Student Association Harvard Chan Students for Health Equity and Justice in Palestine Harvard College Pakistan Student Association Harvard Divinity School Muslim Association Harvard Middle Eastern and North African Law Student Association Harvard Graduate School of Education Islamic Society Harvard Graduate Students for Palestine Harvard Law School Justice for Palestine Harvard Divinity School Students for Justice in Palestine Harvard Jews for Liberation Harvard Kennedy School Bangladesh Caucus Harvard Kennedy School Muslim Caucus Harvard Kennedy School Muslim Women’s Caucus Harvard Kennedy School Palestine Caucus Harvard Muslim Law School Association Harvard Pakistan Forum Harvard Prison Divest Coalition Harvard South Asian Law Students Association Harvard South Asians for Forward-Thinking Advocacy and Research Harvard TPS Coalition Harvard Undergraduate Arab Women's Collective Harvard Undergraduate Ghungroo Harvard Undergraduate Muslim Women’s Medical Alliance Harvard Undergraduate Nepali Students Association Harvard Undergraduate Palestine Solidarity Committee Middle East and North African Graduate School of Design Student Society Neighbor Program Cambridge Sikhs and Companions of Harvard Undergraduates Society of Arab Students

There is no excuse for inhumanity by any of the protagonists, no parties involved in the crisis have any right to peace while they carry on fighting each other in this way. I have no sympathy for either side, they are both barbaric excuses for human beings.

There is no excuse for inhumanity by any of the protagonists, no parties involved in the crisis have any right to peace while they carry on fighting each other in this way. I have no sympathy for either side, they are both barbaric excuses for human beings.

WTF has fertility rates got to do with a 16 year blockade and a western border Mediterranean sea, which is also blockaded by Israel?

Totally correct but Israeli governments have blockaded Gaza since 2007

Joint Statement by Harvard Palestine Solidarity Groups on the Situation in Palestine We, the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence. Today’s events did not occur in a vacuum. For the last two decades, millions of Palestinians in Gaza have been forced to live in an open-air prison. Israeli officials promise to “open the gates of hell,” and the massacres in Gaza have already commenced. Palestinians in Gaza have no shelters for refuge and nowhere to escape. In the coming days, Palestinians will be forced to bear the full brunt of Israel’s violence. The apartheid regime is the only one to blame. Israeli violence has structured every aspect of Palestinian existence for 75 years. From systematized land seizures to routine airstrikes, arbitrary detentions to military checkpoints, and enforced family separations to targeted killings, Palestinians have been forced to live in a state of death, both slow and sudden. Today, the Palestinian ordeal enters into uncharted territory. The coming days will require a firm stand against colonial retaliation. We call on the Harvard community to take action to stop the ongoing annihilation of Palestinians. African American Resistance Organization Bengali Association of Students at Harvard College Harvard Arab Medical and Dental Student Association Harvard Chan Muslim Student Association Harvard Chan Students for Health Equity and Justice in Palestine Harvard College Pakistan Student Association Harvard Divinity School Muslim Association Harvard Middle Eastern and North African Law Student Association Harvard Graduate School of Education Islamic Society Harvard Graduate Students for Palestine Harvard Law School Justice for Palestine Harvard Divinity School Students for Justice in Palestine Harvard Jews for Liberation Harvard Kennedy School Bangladesh Caucus Harvard Kennedy School Muslim Caucus Harvard Kennedy School Muslim Women’s Caucus Harvard Kennedy School Palestine Caucus Harvard Muslim Law School Association Harvard Pakistan Forum Harvard Prison Divest Coalition Harvard South Asian Law Students Association Harvard South Asians for Forward-Thinking Advocacy and Research Harvard TPS Coalition Harvard Undergraduate Arab Women's Collective Harvard Undergraduate Ghungroo Harvard Undergraduate Muslim Women’s Medical Alliance Harvard Undergraduate Nepali Students Association Harvard Undergraduate Palestine Solidarity Committee Middle East and North African Graduate School of Design Student Society Neighbor Program Cambridge Sikhs and Companions of Harvard Undergraduates Society of Arab Students

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2023/10/10/un-condemns-complete-siege-of-gaza-2

Most of the World, are you sure, not even all the Jewish people support this Israeli/Zionist catastrophe

Does not apply to Zionists with Western backing.

The West's hypocrisy towards Gaza's breakout is stomach-turning https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/gaza-israel-west-hypocrisy-jailbreak-stomach-turning

OK, as I said lets keep killing one another, see who gets fed up first, what is it 75 years and counting?

OK, I give in, lets just keep on killing each other, there's more than enough people on the planet anyway.

IMHO, part of the problem is remarks like that, whatever you think they are still human beings.

So therefore let's try again but this time use the sanctions card as used by NATO in the Russian (Special Operation) that IMHO would keep Israel and Gaza compliant.

We are discussing Gaza here.

Gaza may well be an independent territory but it is always being harassed by either the Israeli forces/settlers. IDF. Hopefully an International force would keep both parties apart, either by consent or force their choice, maybe a demilitarised zone, like between North and South Korea.

An International peace force would I hope guarantee the people of Gaza security, Hamas would be offered an amnesty, disarm or face the consequences.

This is what I wrote (The international community need to separate the Arabs and the Israelis, clear out all the weapons/munitions and fighters from Gaza) I don't think many Israelis if any are in Gaza with weapons or munitions.

This will never end well for either side, whilst I deplore the atrocities of Hamas in this latest attack, you cannot then say Israel are innocent of atrocities against the people of Gaza. The international community as usual will wring their collective hands about the terrorism of Hamas/Hezbollah etc etc 100/1000's of innocent Palestinian men, women and children will be killed or wounded by Israel forces who yet again will try to bomb/shell the Gaza strip chasing Hamas fighters. At the end of the day no one will win and in another few years it will be rinse and repeat. The international community need to separate the Arabs and the Israelis, clear out all the weapons/munitions and fighters from Gaza with a international peace force and then chair peace talks between all sides, this cannot go on.

What do you think is the biggest threat to humanity/civilication? Us, collectively the human race.

What's your point?