Jeff the Chef

Some truth for you here: 100 US Senators, only 7 don't get money from the Israel Lobby https://trackaipac.com/us-senate

Netanyahu making a ‘mistake’ on Gaza, says Biden, as he urges Israel to push for ceasefire US president gives some of his strongest criticism of Israeli PM yet, saying he needs to ‘empower’ Israel’s negotiators to call for a truce https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/10/benjamin-netanyahu-joe-biden-gaza-mistake-ceasefire-israel-war-palestine

My comment and your answer, get to the doctors, your medication is not working

Here lies the problem, both of you can only see the carnage caused as the fault of Hamas and the Palestinians, Israel are the innocents, who have no parts to play in any of this conflict, so we can all sit behind our keyboards from now until eternity and watch this go on indefinitely.

There is no justification from either side, they are both as bad as one another, both intractable in their beliefs that they are both right and until there is a complete change nothing will change.

The last thing that's needed is rounds of applause about any of these topics. What's needed is changes of attitudes from both sides to sort out this disaster for the whole of mankind, have you anything to bring to the negotiating table apart from death and destruction?

From the same link: Margalit's latest account of her experience in Gaza came after Israel's army said on Saturday its troops recovered the body of another hostage from Nir Oz. The recovery of Elad Katzir's body brings to 12 the number of bodies of hostages which the army says it has brought home from Gaza during the war. But it gave no comfort to his sister, who blamed Israeli authorities for his death. The IDF said in a statement that 'the body of the abductee Elad Katzir, who according to intelligence was murdered in captivity by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organisation, was rescued overnight from Khan Yunis and returned to Israeli territory'. Katzir, 47 at the time of attack, was abducted from Nir Oz kibbutz community along with his mother Hanna. She was released on November 24 during a one-week truce in the war in Gaza. Katzir's father was killed during the attack at the kibbutz, the army said. The army said its intelligence suggested that Katzir was murdered in mid-January, shortly after Islamic Jihad released a video footage showing him in captivity. 'He was buried in the ground,' a military official told journalists at a briefing. Following intelligence, troops reached the site and 'began excavation' work to recover his body, the official said. 'Their efforts resulted in the discovery of the body, which was then transported to Israel for further examination,' he said. Katzir's sister expressed fury at the authorities. 'Elad was kidnapped from his home in Nir Oz in one piece,' Carmit Palty Katzir wrote on her Facebook page. She blamed the Israeli authorities for her brother's death, saying he would have returned alive had the authorities agreed to a new truce deal. 'Our leadership is cowardly and driven by political consideration, which is why this deal has not happened yet,' she wrote. 'Prime Minister, war cabinet, and coalition members: Look at yourself in the mirror and say if your hands didn't spill blood.' Her comments reflect intensifying pressure on the coalition government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over its handling of the war.

Another load of diatribe against me, thanks, water off a ducks back. Now try putting your mind on to the point I made in the original post and I quote: "I find it unbelievable that people on here don't think that the barbarism that occurred on the 7th Oct was done on a whim and that Israel had given the Palestinian people no reasons for them to hate and despise them.

Get over yourself, my comment has everything to do with this situation, from the hostages, to the terrorism of Hamas and the response from Israel up to press, you don't want to address anything apart from revenge and destruction in Gaza. The victim here is not only Israeli's, it is also the whole of Humanity that is witnessing this tragedy.

As far as I'm concerned, EVERYTHING

I find it unbelievable that people on here don't think that the barbarism that occurred on the 7th Oct was done on a whim and that Israel had given the Palestinian people no reasons for them to hate and despise them.

So first I debunk the neutrality of your first "expert" so you post another who is just another ally of Israel from the USA, the real winners of this conflict, follow the money.

Yes, of course he said that, wouldn't expect anything else but a one-sided view. If it was the opposite or anything not pro-IDF you wouldn't of posted it.

Revealed: BBC failed to declare interviewee’s links to the Israeli army Newsnight’s military expert Richard Kemp is head of a charity funded by the Israeli Defence Forces. Appearing on the BBC’s flagship daily news and current affairs programme last week to discuss the war in Gaza and pro-Palestine marches in the UK, Colonel Richard Kemp was introduced as “a former army officer and terrorism expert who sat on the government’s Joint Intelligence Committee”. But what host Kirsty Wark did not mention was that Kemp is also a director and trustee of an organisation that both raises money for and is funded by the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF). https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/bbc-newsnight-failed-declare-richard-kemp-link-idf-israel-army-gaza-palestine/

I fail to see any point in answering you, where do you get an excuse from any of the post your answering? Standard reply for pro-Israeli's, never answer a question but always think they are winning.

Very nice OPINION piece as stated, we will probably never know the full cost in human lives until all the bodies under the rubble are included in the count.

What the World is supposed to be living under after the scourge of 2 World Wars. United Nations Charter: Preamble WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom, AND FOR THESE ENDS to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples, https://www.un.org/en/about-us/un-charter/preamble Now who has broken/failed to implement the majority of resolutions passed, since it's inception? I'll give you a clue it's not Palestine.

What the World is supposed to be living under after the scourge of 2 World Wars. United Nations Charter: Preamble WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom, AND FOR THESE ENDS to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples, https://www.un.org/en/about-us/un-charter/preamble Now who has broken/failed to implement the majority of resolutions passed, since it's inception? I'll give you a clue it's not Palestine.

What the World is supposed to be living under after the scourge of 2 World Wars, now who has broken/failed to implement the majority of resolutions passed. I'll give you a clue it's not Palestine. United Nations Charter: Preamble WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom, AND FOR THESE ENDS to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples, https://www.un.org/en/about-us/un-charter/preamble

I am not anti-Jew, I am anti-Israeli, Israel has no chance of clearing Hamas out of Gaza, if anything they have been the best recruiting sergeant ever with their methods of trying to clear them. As for WW2 clearing of Nazi's and civilian casualties, 80 years ago different times with different weapons systems.

Yes, same as it is for you, but what has that got to do with the reply I gave to your comment, nothing.

Of course you have proof of that because you believe everything Israel and the IDF feed you, whereas normal human beings don't.

Yes, you did read that, written by the perpetrators of said state Israel.

Renowned scholar and activist Norman Finkelstein discusses Israel’s war on Gaza with Marc Lamont Hill. As Israel’s war on Gaza continues, killing more than 33,000 people, numerous scholars and politicians have voiced concern and condemned Israel’s policies and actions. Among those critics is Norman Finkelstein, a staunch advocate for Palestinian freedom and one of the foremost historians on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, himself a son of Holocaust survivors. This week on UpFront, Norman Finkelstein shares his insights on Israel’s war on Gaza and responds to some of the controversies surrounding him in an interview with Marc Lamont Hill.

Aid workers killed: How did it happen? | Israel-Hamas war Sky's Ashna Hurynag assesses how the attack happened. https://news.sky.com/video/aid-workers-killed-how-did-it-happen-israel-hamas-war-13108715