Cameroni

Of course nobody believes him. Like all men who claim they dont' pay for their women Jake's an abject liar and grade A idiot. If you believe him you'd be an even bigger idiot.

I know. I was as shocked as you are, Richard. The lies don't stop. It's almost as if she's a woman.

Well, I've date a lot in Thailand and SE Asia. In my view a girl you truly connect with, whom you truly have chemistry with, and are truly attracted to, only comes around very rarely. Most of the girls I dated I would not want to be with long term because the chemistry is not there, So if i throw PG away, I may have to wait another 10 years to find a similar girl. Sure I can find a lot of other girls easily, but none that I like as much as PG. As for her, she's not serious about marrying or kids or anything like this .All she wants is to play volleyball on the beach, travel, see the world. She's 25. She's not bothered about marriage or kidsd or settling down. Like at all. She wasn't married before I think, but her Thai boyfriend of 5 years was pretty serious.

It does sound very appealing in many ways. Hence I could see myself doing a similar thing.

Ideally, but then the land could draw us there, just thinking ahead if things were to progress.

The sister was never a bargirl nor lived in Phuket. That was a lie to cover her living with the Pig. The sister does exist. I saw photos, PG never said she doesn't exist.

I'm told the sister has a new family now, with an aggressive bf who does not want her seeing the previous kids. So the sister hardly goes to see them, nor sends much. As the aunt, PG feels sorry for the kids and sends money to the mother to help care for them. So I guess if things progress I'd pay for mother, father, the two kids and her. But anyway, as I said upthread, things were hanging by a thread as PG unblocked her ex and texted him. I'd actually asked her to leave, and drove her to the bus station. At the bus station she asked about a ticket, but then didn't buy one. Said she'd like to have lunch, Then lunch turned to dinner, and she never left. I again insisted the ex has to be blocked, she said she did and then I checked and she unblocked him again, texting him on Liine instead of Whatsapp. I saw it, and the guy is blocked again, his chat deleted now. But clearly it is becoming very hard to believe what PG says. I do understand her having a hard time blocking someone she pair bonded with for a year, I had the same issue with BKK girl, after all. However, whilst PG girl keeps future faking me, talking about visitng the parents, where we live etc, she still seems one foot in and and foot out. I don't feel she's fully in. This texting other guys has to stop. I don't feel she's fully honest, not reliable and making almost no effort to show trustworthiness, after what she did. In addition, she seems to be doing housework as an afterthought, it's a mess here. I said I'll get the cleaner, and she protests she'll do it, but then doesn't do much. Clearly, our limerence phase is over, and we're having to deal with real world issues now, and it's not going smoothely. We're stilling having a good time, went out yesterday, she's still fun and entertaining, but I have serious concerns.

Again? I thought the whores got paid already???!!!!

A beautiful house in Isaan with a hot young wife. Wow. Can't wait. Not gonna lie, all the markets, smoothies and chicken had her go up from 49 to 50. There is definitely a few curves in the right places now. Still hot as a girl can be though. Puts Ms Grand to shame.

The desperate pig went all out. He wrote "If you will be my life partner, there is no money I will not spend". He is basically offering marriage and blank cheques. Will PG be able to resist the big money plus the lure of beach volleyball? So far so good.

Possibly. If this bond is not broken, then ours will be.

Then, there's the land she'll inherit. When we talked about building a house, she insisted I don't need to buy land, she has the land. I'm relaxed about it. She doesn't have a huge family, it's only mother, father and 2 nephews.

No. As you will recall, she'd sent him a message that it was over and blocked him. I'd rather hoped that would be it. But I had underestimated how desperate the fat pigman is, at age 63, he knows, he could never get a 25 year old like her again. I'd also underestimated the extent of their pair bond. They'd talked for a year and lived together 6 months. Apparently pigman is totally fine she cheats on him. Like me with BKK girl, Phuket girl found it hard to block the ex, after she did so, she again unblocked. I saw the convo. Pigman was then obviously encouraged and sent 20 messages, professing his love. It was touch and go for a while, hanging by a thread, as I obviously did not take that well. I again insisted he be blocked. She did so again, after initial threats to go back to Phuket. Then she stayed. However, I then found out she again unblocked him. She never sent him much. One word messages. "Hahaha" "good", but he sent 20 messages begging her to come back. She kept him blocked on Whatsapp, but she then wrote him on Line. Pigman still thinks she will come back to him. I asked her to block him and she did again. So, he is still full of hope, desperate and not giving up. Also, as her unblocking and sporadic texts encouraged him.

It's mother and father, plus the two kids from the sister. She's got a bad rel with the sister apparently, I just found out. She actually heavily pushed for Ubon, how nice it is, that we should go see it. As for finances, I'm down 1000 baht, no joke. The advice to go away from the family is very sound I think.

They definitely want to take care of the mother. And Phuket Girl has floated the notion of moving to Sisaket, building there. So you're not wrong. I'm getting the hard sell on Ubon and other places close by. I could probably live there, but it would be a change to cosmopolitan CM.

Oh, how I wish that were true. How I wish.

Exactly. And it is character that counts. Whether she is from Isaan, Bangkok or Chiang Mai. Terribly demanding and hard to please. Calculating. Much prefer the other option. No, I have called out patently obviously LIARS who claimed they do not pay for their women. You, after some time, and to your great credit, have outlined how much you pay for your woman. Which we all, of course do. And yet, there are LIARS among us who claim they pay nothing for their women, because they are so likeable. This is the people who I called out for fabricating a story. Well, I can't lie, can I? Reality is what it is.

Fair enough. But did you know Cristina Applegate and Brad Pitt used to date? Have you seen her lately? Have you seen what Brad Pitt looks like? Whom he is dating? Men who are good looking have a massively longer shelf life. Life favours us. Time is on our side. Sorry, but that's the truth.

Well, nobody would want to have sex with her. As you well know. The poor woman is about to go through menopause.

I don't see the relevance of this. Sure there are well to do Thai women, who have money. How this makes them in any way "upper tier" is what I struggle to understand. I've met and dated women who have their own business in Thailand, who had money. I was not impressed. Why would I consider well to do Thai women out of reach for anyhone? Obviously they're not. They're just as keen to date guys, as any other girl. There is just nothing inherently better, or more "upper tier" about a Thai woman, just because she has money. I find this logic odd and bizarre. Far too early to say, as Zhou Enlai said. Quite right, I haven't really achieved much. Sure, I became a lawyer, passed law school and worked at top firms, and happened to be a trainee of a lawyer who became a minister, hardly much of an achievement reallly. And nobody is more surprised than me that I worked for the firms I worked at. I didn't claim anything grand really.

I know, she's a total stunner, Richard. That's the only thing that worries me, with her being a 9.5 her optionality is so high, she's unforgiving on small issues. It's hard. You have to be at your best.

I was invited to meet her mother. We'll be going fairly soon. I never meet anyone? Lol, this from the arthritic loner holed up in some God-forsaken Canadian suburb where mosquitos go to die. Hailing his 55 year old has been as a full on 10. Because her business degree is so sexy. Lol. You do make me laugh at least.

First of all, I'm not old, I'm in my early fifties. And unlike Richard, I'm genetically blessed and still get plenty of looks, also from younger Thai girls, just saw it today again. Secondly, psychologists have now concluded there is no such thing as a "midlife-crisis" anyway. Thirdly, it's laughable to call the beautiful love affair I am currently living a "sugar daddy arrangement", it just makes me laugh. Anyway, I hope you will not be stuck in a long term loveless, boring LTR, like James and a few others on here. If you are, just get out. It can be done. Life can be great.

Well, obviously, I would be too, it is rather impressive, I know, but then you would hardly expect me to name the minister in question, as that would identify me personally, as it would reveal the law firm I worked at. Sadly not, but I can see you're fitting right in with the ludicrous fantasies peddled by Richard and James, also bored as hell shacked up with a cryptkeeper who's past it then?

Actually full lips is one of my key criteria for physical beauty, quite right. Since Kim Basinger, always loved it. Up to you, but I've never claimed to be a "kick boxing champ". I did however work in the City's most prestigious law firms and I was on first name basis with a UK government minister as a result of it. I have seen upper tier English people, and I was not impressed. Some of the Isaan girls I met, however, were delightful in many ways.