SuperSaiyan

Yeah, I heard similar stuff - could be hearsay though. I don't want to go into a legal battle as I don't see a point. The children live with their grandparents and I don't want to kidnap them, even if I would get custody rights. I am looking forward for a harmonic solution, ie. paying child support to grandmother and visiting them / they visit me and then go from there. I am also being realistic, if it doesn't work out then they have my contacts and that's the end of that story. I don't want to sound indifferent and not caring but it wasn't my choice to break up this family, so me trying to connect now while it's possible for me is my last effort.

I have lived with them together for 8 years. Also replied already.

Yes, it was possible in Penang.

What was the proof that your son was living in Bangkok? Is his Tabien Baan in Bangkok or just took the statement "he's living in BKK" as what it is? And where did you apply then at the end? Yes, I have had the feeling as well that they don't really like foreigners not staying together as a family. On the other hand, my experiences were also different from time to time, one time no signatures / no accompanying child required for 60 days extension inside Thailand, next time "bring your child next time" but didn't ask for any signatures of the mother. I don't know if I have shared custody, I just have the legitimization. I might get it translate but I doubt it will change anything regarding how to approach long stay visa. Yeah, with current info I wouldn't try going to the immigration in-country for 60 day / 1 year extension or even 1st NON O - except through agent route. I think the 90 day NON O from outside Thailand was or is still done by many people who can't afford the 400k. That's at least what I read couple of years ago, that the solution is to just do a border hop every 90+60 days (in my case after 90 days) to get another NON O. So, this - besides the agent route or an ED visa - is what I consider possible right now to stay a couple of years in Thailand. There is absolutely no chance that the mother would help, however, maybe the grandparents could influence her at one point (it didn't really work the first time as the grandmother tried to intervene in the separation). But I also don't want to be dependent on her in any way - this would probably lead to more problems. In the end, she might give me an ID card incorrectly signed on purpose and the consulate staff would ask me if I forged the signature (happened the last time in Penang).

II interpreted @d4dang in the way that he meant that there could be a difference between girl and boy. Yeah, I just figured out recently that it is possible to convert the tourist extension to the NON O within the country. Seems that would make the agent route even more a possibility. Do you have a source for that? I mean, I read it already a lot of times but not on an official website. Yes, short term solutions seem to be definitely possible but also the 90 day NON O seems to be possible with the docs I have (at least outside of Thailand in Svannakhet/Vientiane). And I probably could also fly in/out instead of land border increasing the chance of doing maybe another 30+30 days. That's a good starting point. I have the Tabien Baan copy already but I also remember to have read that they want to see the original Tabien Baan - but that info is from 5 years ago or I mixed something up along the way. The 1 year extension was only possible with accompanying child the last time I did it and the officer made the mother sign also documents (maybe required, maybe not). So, 1 year extension might be out of question anyway but if I already built a relationship with the grandparents and my children by then, the accompanying child would be a possible at least for the 60 day extension for the 90 days NON O and the officer could be checked out what he would ask for the 1 year extension.

Yeah, it's definitely on the list I would check locally as it might be different than online presences. Yes, indeed, the papers I have are all for my son. Why do you think that this will improve anything? Well, as I said, I want to connect with my children, without access to my children there's nothing in Thailand for me. Nobody except the uncle would understand me but he does not live there and the risk of the mother being there should be also eliminated (I know that she isn't there, but just safety first). Thank you, and good luck to you as well.

It's definitely on my list to check out locally. I got discouraged as I saw that the agents also state the "signed ID card" as requirement on their websites.

Reaffirming that getting single entry NON O (90 days) without any signatures and without any ID cards and without the possibility of extending (would need child accompanying which is a "maybe later") is my best and probably only chance to stay the next couple of years in Thailand. I am still thinking of the ED-Visa route as well though. Elite Visa is an option, or it isn't, because in this case I would rather just donate the 600k directly to my children and pay the grandparents the money to support my further visa extensions,... which is overall what I am thinking of anyway how it could play out in the end, me paying a monthly amount and the grandparents help me with visa requirements (like child accompanying or pictures and stuff) and I get more access to my children.

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I wasn't married to the mother. And regarding the multi entry NON O you already quoted the report from the @JGon which stated that Savannakhet isn't doing multiple entry NON Os for non marriage/retirement. Regarding searching the forum for the specific situation I am in: Every thread I found so far has "signed ID card copies of the mother" listed, thus it is a dead end, except the recent one from @JGon which says no ID card needed and even on the Savannakhet website it doesn't list that requirement. So, NON O for 90 days seems to have high chance of succeeding without ID cards/signatures. For how long though,... And 60 day or 1 year extension without accompanying child probably not possible from what I understood so far. I even read that even if you're using an agent the child has to be with you.

For the 60 day extension I was alone a couple of times and it wasn't an issue (as far as I can remember, but I think one time the immigration officer asked to bring the child next time). Only for the 1 year extension the immigration officer asked specifically about the child (not for the mother). It's a long time since then though, also probably differently from office to office and if agents are involved. I did this a couple of times in Vientiane but always provided ID cards and signature along, hence my question if its possible without ID cards and signatures. It looks like the possible option for me would be to get the 90 day NON O (or even multiple entry?!) and either get them extended (maybe by an agent) or get another 90 day NON O. Are there limits though? I remember to have read that this method was done indefinite by people who weren't able to show the 400k/800k for the yearly visa.

The starter post was totally clear. Parent company (49% foreigner / 51% Thais) owns 51% of a subsidiary company while the same foreign owns the 49% of both companies. It's legal. Only nominees who own the 51% of the parent company wouldn't be legal, if there are any nominees and if you can prove it (nearly impossible).

Yeah, the issue is not getting temporary stay... Do I need anything from the mother of the children for a NON O though? I have read now in another post that the consulate in Laos doesn't ask for any ID cards nor mother's signatures.

No, however METV is out of question and instead of METV I could also get 30+30 days extension and do a border hop by land/air.

Unfortunately I am way under 50. METV would only be a short period and only possible to get outside of the country. I read a lot in the Marriage/Divorce forum but there aren't any first hand experiences regarding how to handle NON O visa in this case, I wasn't married anyway. I don't think the mother is against me seeing the children, she would just refuse to help me in any way (the last visa I made she purposely wrote her signature incorrectly). Also the uncle tells me sometimes the grandparents (grandmother is the boss) want me to have contact with the children and the children missing me and they also ask about money for support. It feels like that this door is open. The children not seeing me for 3 years is obviously bad, the biggest fear is that they won't even understand me. But why not try to connect anyway, for the children's sake. If it completely fails, I could move on anyway.

Hello, my situation is that I don't have contact to the mother anymore (she refuses) and no contact to my children (8 and 12) for around 3 years and I can soon afford to move back to Thailand and want to connect with my children. My plan is something like visiting every weekend or whatever, just to play a bigger role in their lives. Since the children are "parked" at the grandparents and the mother has basically abandoned (I think the children visit her regularly though) them there is a good chance that the grandparents allow me to visit them or take them a weekend. I had good contact with the grandparents and they truthfully liked me. They have a slight fear that I would kidnap them which I just won't and I am willing to give it time to build trust. I have also sparely contact to the children's uncle which can help translate and talk to the grandmother. So, now comes the problem. First of all I want to say that I want to live in Thailand for the sole reason of my children - there is no other specific reason why I would be in Thailand, I would prefer the Philippines or Colombia or whatever. I have these documents: - Original birth certificate for one child - Original father legitimization with one child (same) - Tabien Baan copies where the same child + mother is listed - outdated ID card copies of mother/child There is absolutely no way in obtaining the ID card or any help of the mother at all. Even with money. What are my options to stay in Thailand? I thought about trying to just go to Vientiane and getting the 90 day NON-O and extending it for 60 days and then repeating the process. I think there is a chance that they will give the visa without any ID or signature of the mother? And no ID card of the child? Or maybe an ED visa? Help and ideas are appreciated!