MangoKorat

So you actually believe that someone stating they have no interest in dating a Trans person is wrong? That's exactly why I say the world has gone mad! All you seek to do is to make this personal without considering the fact that a hell of a lot of people object to this new 'woke' world. Things are not going to get better at this rate, they are only going to get worse. If you actually believe that nobody else cares about this and its simply my problem, you don't mix in the same circles as I do. Just about everyone I know is sick to death of it.

Again, you are concentrating on the dating App. My post is about where we are going with all this - I think I've made that clear several times.

Well 'me thinks' is wrong. I have only 'matched' with one girl in days and I'm still very much in contact with her. Had there been anything else that could possibly be construed as 'hateful' I would be aware of that. You need to understand how these dating Apps work - they are totally profit motivated and operate on the minimum of staff. They rely on people 'reporting' other members to pick up on issues - they don't spend hours combing through people's profiles. Hence the amount of hookers openly plying their trade on the App. When someone makes a report, a temporary ban is issued a staff member investigates and if they agree, a total ban is issued. My location/search area is usually set to Bangkok + 40km. I recently returned to the UK and god knows why but last night I set my location to 'My Current Location' + 40km. Within an hour I had a temporary ban and shortly after that, a full ban. I think this ban is because of that location change and the 'Woke' attitudes of the UK trans community or their supporters who almost certainly reported my profile. In any case, as I've said to others, this is not about my activity on a dating App, this is about 'Woke-ism' in general and where its taking us. I am merely using my experience on a dating App to provide an example of how ridiculous things have become.

In another article a girl wishes to identify as a cat and pupils telling her she is crazy are given a dressing down by their Teachers. The controversy began when a student secretly recorded the discussion involving year 8 pupils at Rye college in East Sussex. In the excerpt posted to TikTok, a pupil describes the idea of another pupil identifying as a cow or cat as “crazy” and extends her remarks to include biological sex and gender as binary. A teacher is heard telling the student that their views were “despicable”, threatening to report them to a senior colleague and saying: “If you don’t like it, you need to go to a different school.” https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/jun/23/child-identifying-as-cat-controversy-from-a-tiktok-video-to-media-frenzy In another article on the same story, the school said a pupil was identifying as a cat and they were now having to deal with boys barking at her. 😁 But seriously, this is why I ask, where will it end?

The World Has Gone Mad - please tell me this is not true: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12213579/How-schools-allowing-kids-identify-cats-horses-dinosaurs.html

Precisely! Most people I know are anti 'woke' but say nothing. The problem with that is that saying and doing nothing is probably why we are where we are with this today. If anyone tells me I cannot address them in a gender specific way or that stating 'No Trans' on a dating App is hateful for example - they can take a running jump. Scaremongering it may seem but very soon, if not already, we are going to have to be very careful with our wording in everyday life - I'm not prepared to accept that. The old norms remain as far as I'm concerned - of course some of those norms were unfair and a lot of that has been dealt with legally. I think I'm grown up enough to know what's right and wrong. At the moment I believe that anyone who tried to prosecute me for saying 'No Trans' on a dating App would be laughed out of court. However, fast forward a few years when some of these Woke-ists become judges, what then?

So why bother commenting then?

Either would be fine by me. I cannot see and don't believe that a Trans person would be offended by my statement. I would not take offence if a member stated 'Trans only'.

The question is - how reasonable such a policy is and whether or not it is right to deem 'No Trans' as 'Hate Speech'. As the site is freely open to anyone who can establish an identity, they are covered by rules, they cannot just make unreasonable rules up - no public flatform can and if they do, they can be held to account. They cannot hide behind their small print - that has been tested in the courts thousands of times. Courts accept that such 'rules and regulations' are so boring that nobody reads them. If I actually said something hateful on a public platform, I could be prosecuted for that. However, I doubt even the best lawyers would be able to successfully assert that 'No Trans' is hateful.

Which is your right and AN won't ban you for that. However, you are also a liar.

Let me answer you with a question - why do use attention grabbing descriptions? Obsessed? Hardly. What I am concerned with is the way things are going generally and what is and what is not acceptable. Just like in some countries men, and some women for that matter, are starting to complain that feminism has gone too far - the situation with the interaction between Gays and Trans & the rest of the population has got out of hand. All this they/them stuff is just rubbish. The dating app in question is widely used and freely available without qualification for membership, it is therefore a public platform. It is perfectly OK for it to have rules and regulations - in fact that is a necessity but they need to be within reason. What I object to is not being able to simply say 'No Trans' as if that's some kind of slur. Its not nasty or directly aimed at degrading Trans people. It was stated on my space on the app - a space which I paid for. To ban me and call what I wrote 'Hate Speech' is well over the top and that is the crux of the problem. I did not want any further Ladyboys to contact me so I stated my preference in a mild and benign way. I doubt that many Trans people would be offended by that. I've seen many Thai girls on the App state 'No Thai's' or 'No Foreigners' that's fair enough and if I saw one that said 'No Foreigners' I would respect the girl's wishes and not contact her - not a problem. Judging by the amount of girls that make such statements on the App, that is OK with the site's owners, how can that be? Are we now discriminating against normality? I don't read such stuff and think of its as racist, I simply think "that girl isn't interested in foreigners so I won't try to contact her". Now if she said 'No dirty farangs' - yes I'd find that offensive and that's the difference. In my eyes simply saying 'No Trans' is nothing like or even resembling 'Hate Speech. To your point on gays in a restaurant, I see nothing wrong with that and have almost certainly have been in a restaurant where Gays have been dating. I have a friend who's into Ladyboys and sometimes brings them to a bar that I also visit - I don't have any problem with that. If they started engaging in any sexual activity, yes I'd be disgusted - its against my nature and I'd take a bet that most 'straight' men would either complain, move away or leave. I don't get your point but I'd state that I'm not really comfortable with 'straight' people engaging in intimate activity publicly either. Where does this end? What is and is not the 'norm' in terms of acceptance - we used to have that but the bar is constantly being raised. Soon we will all be scared to pass any comment in public.

Thank you for your opinion which is sadly, incorrect.

How long before paedophilic behaviour is considered acceptable and those who practice it, who don't consider it as wrong are able to display their behaviour publicly? When does something become acceptable and who decides what is and what is not? You may think I'm being extreme but watch this space - if this 'wokeness' is not brought to an end - it will become never ending and a free for all. It used to be that we had a 'norm' - that seems to have gone. Transgender and Gay people were very unfairly discriminated against and in general I support moves to change that but not when that changes the 'norm'. There is a set of values and behaviours that are/were seen as acceptable and by which we have lived our lives. Granting well deserved rights to Gay and Trans people does not have to change those norms but we are now being asked, nay told, to disregard our norms. I'm not about to open the whole debate again but I strongly believe in the 'norm' and that includes the right not to be confronted by abnormal behaviour that I find offensive.

Are you infering that those of us from the previously 'normal' world, have no rights?

Apparently the UK singer Sam Smith is fond of fishing and when someone called him a fisherman he stated that he is a fisherPERSON...........jeez!

Although I don't want to make this about my use of a dating App - more its about the context that is being set, you are correct, I don't have to use their services. However, they have taken my money and shown no signs of issuing a refund even though I am now not able to use the site. I have absolutely no doubt that their defence will be that I have viloated their terms and conditions and therefore, my subscription is forfeit.

Very well put. It seems however, that we are not even allowed to state 'don't bother me' these days.

I've asked the question - where is this going? I'll tell you where I think its going - very soon, even the word 'Transgender' will be seen as hateful. Those who have had their gender changed will start asserting that they are doing nothing wrong by choosing a person born of the opposite sex as their potential partner. I'm pretty sure that the surgery involved will not be particularly convincing so the first time some people will know that they are dating a Trans is in the bedroom - blood will flow.

I agree. However, the world of dating has changed and using Apps and Websites is now the norm. For the younger generation its now their choice. My experience has been that the particular App in question has produced far better results. Its is known as a 'Hook Up' site and that is exactly what I'm looking for.

Yet again, you are missing the point. I don't need to use that app to meet women but it did make things very easy. The point is about what is and what is not 'Hate' and where this brand of thinking is taking us. People like me are branded 'haters' for simply not wishing to see gay activity on mainstream TV or in movies. Now I can't even state that I have no interest in meeting Trans people. What I find odd is that the site in question accepts membership from Ladyboys who state their gender is a 'Woman' and their preference is 'Straight' - both of which they are not. But that is acceptable because in today's world a person can 'identify' as they wish and we are all supposed to respect that. So, I identify as a horse - don't dare say I'm not!

Like many, you are missing the point. Expressing a view or a preference should be someone's right. However, such expressions do not need to be nasty. My account has been banned for 'Hate Speech' - how the hell is simply stating 'No Trans' hateful? I have no interest in dating Trans people and was receiving constant 'likes' from them. I believe I can spot 90% of Ladyboys but some of those who frequent the site in question are very convincing. Had I stated 'No Nasty Transgenders' - that would have been hateful and I would understand the ban. I cannot see how simply stating 'No Trans' can be considered hateful. Using what I consider to be the site's ethics, I believe that stating 'No Blondes' would be acceptable but if I stated 'No Black Girls' that would lead to a ban. A person should be allowed to politely express their preferences - especially when choosing a partner. It seems that someone has decided that even stating that you are not interested in meeting Trans people is discrimination. Where does that take us next?

That's not obvious? If you're having prblems understanding, the clue is in the title.

Precisely!

You're missing the point - this is not about me using a dating site, that is just what sets the context. We all have likes and dislikes - take the example I wrote about blondes and brunettes. How long before you're not allowed to state any sort of preference at all?

Naa not desperados. Its the popular way to meet these days and I've had a lot of success on that particular site - more than any other. You are however, correct that they are all full of scammers and liars but I guess its the price you pay. I just don't see how stating 'No Trans' is wrong. One thing that is possible - I believe that this particular site intitially reacts to anyone who reports your profile. It could well be that my profile is re-instated once my 'appeal' has been looked at. If not, they'd better damned well refund my Gold membership fee.