Mike Lister

Presumably, the new rules do not apply to those of us who are not UK resident for tax purposes but are UK landlords and who use a UK accountant to file our self assessment returns?

Perhaps the title of this thread helps put the planned cash giveaway into context, 560 billion is around 6 months of the international tourism income, that's what government is planning to give away.

I would point out that all my overseas remittances into my Thai bank accounts is now clearly labelled as "Income" whereas previously it was labelled in other ways. It also certain that Thai banks report all my interest and income to the RD, they know these numbers before I do.

Visa fees are a trivial source of tourist income.

That sounds about right. The average length of stay is around 9 days but varies by nationality, longer haul tourists stay longer than regional tourists. Average spend per person is around 5,500 per day but once again, varies widely based on nationality.

I suspect you're correct, giving every citizen in Thailand, 560 billion each probably would break the bank!

Dear God, is there no end to this nonsense!

H "may" have to, we don't know. https://www.gov.uk/self-assessment-tax-returns/who-must-send-a-tax-return#:~:text=who has died-,Who must send a tax return,partner in a business partnership

Forgot....also, the majority of Malays visiting Thailand fly into Had Yai or Bangkok, Malay tourists don't drive half way across Malaysia just to cross the land border, then drive half way across Thailand to get to Bangkok!

I have never suggested or thought that UK STate pension is a government pension.

Nonsense! Where do you think the numbers come from in the first place, where does said Ministry get them from? Hint......things that fly via airports, Immigration at land border crossings certainly don't gather them.

Nonsense, there are many such taxes in place, just not described the way you did.

I did once, I used the following, amongst other things, just click on the year you're interested in: https://investor.airportthai.co.th/transport.html Forgot to say....you have to add in the non-AOT airports and passenger traffic but exclude land border crossings. I got very very close to one set of numbers issued by TAT, that convinced me they were legit.

Plenty of countries in the West and even globally, add a charge or tax to tourist room rates, its very common practise.

TAT ONLY counts people arriving by air, not many Burmese construction workers or fishermen fly into Swampy on their way to work!

The very cold air from a freezer compartment is typically fed air into the refrigeration compartment, that's how the fridge part stays chilled. If the flow of air between the two sections is blocked, very cold air will build up in the freezer and ice will form above the unit, as you have described. As others have said, defrost the entire unit and next time don't overload either part of the unit.

I sat there with the Revenue Officer whilst she entered the information in the screen and we went through my return in detail, that's enough for me. I don't care how the RD accounts for things internally, I only care about the bottom line. I also know that the RD system bottom line tallied with my manual calculation. Those things are sufficient for me, I am very comfortable that what she entered into the system reflected accurately the information I provided, very comfortable. Now, go argue with somebody else, if you don't like what I did I can't help you.

I know what I declare to the RD and that my calculation for tax due/refund agrees with their system, that's all I need to know.

I do not know if/how the online system differs from the paper based tax form because there is no English language version.

The "bottom line" is the net tax due/refund which always agrees. Yes, for system purposes it is possible that she doesn't include the US SSc amount but this would be odd since it was the subject of some explanation. TBH I have never queried this previously because there was never a need, as long as the bottom line tallies. Another odditie of the system is that you only enter one bank name/account number but you record all interest from all banks under that name/number. I have accounts with BBL/UOB/Kasi but only record the BBL account name/number, somehow that links to all account records from banks in Thailand bearing my name/tax number etc.

I prepare an income statement listing all the sources and the amounts and I take this to the local District RD office. I agree it with RD staff so they understand the sources etc and the very helpful young lady then enters into my online tax account which is in Thai. As long as the system bottom line agrees with the statement I have prepared, there's no issue...it always does. She prints off a copy of the return and I staple my statement to it....job done.

OK. I use fixed deposits quite extensively here and all pay interest of course, that's the difference between us perhaps.

I have filed for the past three years. If you file to reclaim tax with held on bank interest you are obliged to declare your income also and if you don't, the tax return is fraudulent because you're saying there is none! So I have filed and declared my income three years running, for me this is nothing new but the downstream implications might be if/when I go to transfer savings or sell my house in the UK. My Thai tax return shows income from the US SSc which I declare but exclude from the calculation, UK state pension income and Thai based savings income. I sometimes pay a small amount of tax, I mostly do not.

The point I'm trying to get to the bottom of here is who makes that determination whether that income is covered by a DTA and does that information need to be shared with the RD? All DTA's are different. Others here are saying that the existence of the DTA is sufficient to warrant that the person not even declare it, not file a Thai tax return and not even say anything to the RD. I maintain that can't be the case. I maintain that unless somebody informs the RD what that money is and that it is tax exempt, all the RD will see is that overseas funds were received and nobody said anything. Surely that's the point of this whole exercise by the RD, they want people to pay tax on money received from overseas, when it is taxable. And how will they know if it's taxable? When somebody tells them , typically via tax return.

But the subject is income received from overseas, not income derived from transactions in Thailand.