Mike Lister

I agree.

A derogatory baiting post has been removed.

I have. The Geriatric Hospital is operated by CMU, the same people that operate Sriphat and many of the Sriphat doctors work there part time. I went to see an opthamologist but ended up having to make an appointment for another day. On the day of the appointment, the nurse called to say my appointment was cancelled, because the doctor wasn't comfortable talking with foreign patients. This was especially odd since since the doctor in question was schooled overseas for four years, in an English speaking country! I didn't rebook. As far as I'm concerned, Sriphat is the only hospital I will use for any reason. I had surgery there four months ago and every aspect was faultless.

I don't intend for this thread to be tightly controlled whatsoever, I intend for it to have ultra light moderation, as long as everyone is sensible and reasonable, which has not always been the case. I intend for the Simple Tax Guide thread to be reserved for specific things, comments and suggestions relating to the guide and members queries, mostly, if they wish to post them there, (those with simpler needs have done so in the past). That thread will only be tightly moderated if the need arises. In the past, some posters tried to use it as their personal platform to vent all manner of different things and to stage debates and derail and undermine its purpose. It is intended to be a platform for known and assumed fact, mostly. I would much rather see this thread be used for the bulk and core of all tax debates and that my role is passive, used only to extract agreed facts/assumed facts. If you guys can continue in the same way that you have recently, minus the outburst and abuse from a few posters, that will be perfect as far as I am concerned. As for whether we should be doing this or not: you are well educated, you also have a good understanding of the infrastructure and leaglese/government speak, you are also no stranger to the world of tax and the Revenue. Large numbers of members do not have even a small fraction of your knowledge and understanding. Many are basic income pensioners, some are insecure financially and in other ways, many have never had anything to do with tax in their lives. Of the 100 or so people that have PM'd me or have come to the previous thread for help, none were even close to your profile. Those are the people we are trying to assist in the first instance and towards whom the Tax Guide is primarily targeted, not the wealthy types who transfer millions or who are worried about Capital Gains on investment portfolio's or LTV's. As we go further up the wealth and comprehension scale, the need changes and the less the guide is needed, by the time we get to your level the guide is not even remotely relevant, but you are not the target market, we're focussed on the needs of the people on the other end of the scale. The point after all of that is, many of our members, don't have any other source of information and hardly anyone they can ask or trust, we've seen ample evidence of that.

That's correct, in the hope that somebody suitable would step up and volunteer to take over responsibility for the Simple Guide. But nobody did, which left us with no other realistic solution. Let me repeat, I am not going to have anything to do with this thread, other than to ensure postings follow forum rules, I am not going to contribute other than to verify new information for the Simple Guide so you are all on your own. The Simple Guide thread however is a different story.

If anyone disagrees with what is written in the current draft version of the Simple Tax Guide or believes it can be improved upon, I will be very pleased to receive sensible comments/alternate wording, on a numbered para by para basis, provided they are fairly brief and very focussed. Any constructive challenge to the current contents are welcome but must be accompanied with some forum of supportive reference and not solely be opinion or personal logic. Anyone wishing to make such a challenge may do so here in this thread, via PM, or, in the Simple Tax Guide thread. If you have a concern where something is written that cannot be explicitly proven by quoting official sources, that may be because the statement results from discussions between members and their local TRD office. I would caution against arguing that the opposite of explicit statements are not valid, simply because they are implicit rather than explicit.

I could go if you like, I'll see if George wants to pay expenses from Chiang Mai, I'd need a few days either side, to prepare and then write up notes.....I'm not hopeful! 🙂 An excellent idea though, if anyone is local and would care to go, I would be very grateful.

I have amended para 59 above to reflect latest emerging information between members and TRD personel. NON-RESIDENT INCOME 59) Income that was earned and remitted in a year when a person was Thai tax resident is assessable under Thai tax rules. There is now a growing body of opinion from TRD sources to suggest that overseas income earned whilst Thai tax resident but remitted to Thailand whilst not, is free of Thai tax. Some care should be exercised before considering this option, readers may wish to obtain professional tax advice to confirm this point, before using this approach.

This is the Simple Tax Guide thread, members are welcome to post the following: 1) Suggestions for change or the addition of new sections with the Tax Guide 2) Queries about their own tax related issues where they need answers or assistance 3) Moderators to post new updated sections to the Simple Tax Guide and to provide additional information and links in support of the Guide. This thread is NOT for: 1) Debating 2) Questions about DTA's and foreign tax issues 3) Anything unrelated to the Simple Tax Guide 4) Discussions about CRS and OECD Any off topic, aggressive or overly long posts will be deleted without warning.

Since it's being advertised in English and one of the key patrons in British, I guess the answer must almost certainly be yes.

In December last year, a decision was taken to create a Simple Tax Guide for the benefit of members, its purpose was, and remains today, to provide a knowledge base, on which members could begin to manage their tax affairs in Thailand. The core document was constructed in the following three months and feedback from virtually all quarters was overwhelmingly positive. The document has been viewed more than 80,000 times and over 100 members have been helped directly. By early April, we felt that there was sufficient acceptance of The Guide to where further development of it could be left to members and that I could relinquish my role. In the two weeks since, a number of things happened to make us change our minds. Firstly, the hitherto tightly controlled Simple Tax Guide thread was overrun by posters who ignored the thread rules and tried to derail the topic with unrelated discussions about overseas tax. Secondly, the level of personal attacks and abuse towards me increased substantially, as did attempts by a handful of posters to undermine the Simple Tax Guide and the work to date. Thirdly, it became apparent that no other member was willing to take on the role of updating the guide, as new information emerged. The Simple Tax Guide project remains a forum approved project that is required to be progressed. Consequently, if we are to meet our objectives, it’s now necessary for me to once again assume my previous role of Moderator. The following is the framework in which the subject of tax will be moved forward: 1) I will moderate all tax threads, in addition to my other moderation duties, I will not however post in those threads or engage in debate in them, using my Moderator nic. 2) I will open a new poster name that I will use to post on subjects of my choice, just as all of you are. In this way, there will be no doubt whatsoever whether any of my comments are being made as a poster or as a Moderator. 3) The pinned thread containing the Simple Tax Guide will be unlocked but will be very tightly controlled. The thread is available for members to raise queries about issues in the Simple Tax Guide and to ask questions or seek help, but this will NOT be a debating thread. I will delete unrelated posts, frequently and without warning,so as to keep the thread focussed for new readers. 4) This thread, the 8 month old thread on tax, will continue as is, many of the recent posts have been extremely useful and constructive and I very much hope they continue. From time to time, paragraphs/topics that appear to be agreed as fact, albeit perhaps only with a good degree of probability rather than absolute certainty, will be inserted into the Simple Tax Guide and published. 5) In keeping with Forum Rules, unnecessarily argumentative or insulting posts will be removed without notice. Derogatory PM’s will result in suspensions. 6) If anyone has a concern about any of my actions as a Moderator, I encourage you to report them to Admin. 7) Lastly, I would remind everyone that posts that are "deleted" are in fact only hidden from view and that Moderators can still see the entire contents of all threads, even supposed deleted posts.

A remittance is a funds transfer and vica versa, whether or not it is assessable is another story

There is little question this would be a useful event to attend, but attendees should understand it is sponsored by a Thai firm of accountants/legal/tax advisors who also propose and sell financial investments. Exactly what level of person will attend form the TRD is unclear, as is whether that person will be able to provide greater clarity than has already been provided.

Linked below is the CV is one of the main people sponsoring this event: https://thta.or.th/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Paul-Gambles-Short-Biography-MBMG-Group-and-MBMG-IA.pdf And the following link is the company details: https://mbmg-group.com/about-us#our-company

And this months markets correction is brought to you courtesy of Israel and Iran.......big sigh!

The answer apparently, is never, it's too difficult and involves doing actual work rather than just talking about things.

Such nonsense. You'd have us produce a tax guide that was full of blank pages, just because people like you disagreed that some points were implicit and not explicit. That's what the list of unknowns/unclear issues is for.

Google US Social Security. It's makes pension payment's, provides health care insurance, disability payment's, payments for this, payments for that....google it.

It's time to put up or forever stay silent......pass the poo or get off the pot......show us the money! Which is it to be I wonder.

Sort of, they have Social Security which is very similar.

So what, it's OK for posters to mention my name and discuss me daily, post slurs and make degrading comments but I'm not allowed to mention their names of the posters now responsible for taking over my role and producing updates to the tax guide.....really! Somehow I knew you might say something similar, just to show support.

If your wife were to file her own Thai tax return, rather than file jointly with you, that would entitle her to around 500k Baht in TEDA (allowances/deductions etc). Her filing that way would allow you to do the same and claim similar TEDA.

Participation in the UK State Pension scheme is also mandatory. The US has Social Security deductions, the UK has National Insurance deductions which covers a number of things including health (in part) and pensions ++. That fact notwithstanding, the UK scheme is still not regarded as a government pension.

UK State Pension is for everyone who pays into the scheme, regardless of where they worked or how they were employed. UK Government Pension is for civil servants, government workers, emergency services workers etc.

Are you certain about that and do you have a quote from a reliable source? The US/Thai DTA tells that US SSc cannot be taxed in Thailand and it also says that UK Government pensions cannot be taxed here either. But UK State Pension is not a government pension, that debate has been had many times and always concludes the same way..