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It's so telling, that the three most obnoxious and hateful right wingers on the forum are all over the Thai 'dating' apps. No one will engage with them unless they pay 😊 Just for you guys: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ybz4JM_2bxg

@Cameroni I have explained, succintly, why you have a prevailing view of women that isn't consistent with the experiences of others. In short, you fish for gold diggers, even if you think that you are not doing so. It's your MO. Repeating the same trauma over and over again. A kid in a candy shop and on the other side, enticing girls with candy.

@Oliver Holzerfilled...just another ugly Troll... what a surprise. 😊 The people who have no love in their lives always reveal themselves, in one way or another.

@ThreeCardMonte It was honey from her province, as she knew I liked honey and wanted a genuine and unadulterated product. She got it for me without me asking, but just listening to what I liked during our conversations.

I actually don't have 75k in Thailand. I usually just pay with a card. Even in my home country I don't carry cash. So if I need cash, someone else usually pays. But I can easily transfer it back to them. Makes my life easier. It's nice when you have people who do that for you and equally that you can do good things for them. That's why makes life so good. But when you have to bribe and coerce people to do things that they don't really want to do, but will compromise themselves for money, then you have toxicity on both sides. People who deserve each other and secretly despise each other. That's your life @ThreeCardMonte and likely @Cameroni too. Up to you...or perhaps not, as you simply have no other choices if you want to engage with women.

Wow...who knew? Some serious weirdos out there. I go out, find someone who looks acceptable and then find a way to engage. Shooting fish in a barrel seems to have become so complicated for the participants here. They've lost the skill of hunting in the wild and all of the nuances that go with that. The overriding feeling that I get, is that these are just not particularly nice people and that is why they struggle to find a good partner. You need to be one yourself. I saw this article recently. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15037045/Billionaire-David-Geffen-superyacht-divorce-Donovan-Michaels.html It put me in mind of the types that post here. Especially reading what the ex partner had to say about Geffen.

I will repost the video without mentioning any names, as it still can be useful when dealing with certain types, in a road rage situation or life in general.

@Will B Good I meant with reference to my personal experiences, but since @ThreeCardMonte decided to continue to engage, I decided to stay a little longer 😊 That reminds me...during COVID I joined TF to connect with the locals and met a school teacher online... and even she bought me a gift. That's what I mean, that if a girl likes you, she will show it. These fools just spending money to impress are simply digging their own graves. They need to learn to connect on a deeper level.

What a sad character...ordering up girls like Grab Food and hoping to find someone who will actually love and respect him. There is no chance @Cameroni They are interviewing for a job and if a better prospect comes along, they will bail. Just like before. You just don't have what it takes. You'll be constantly checking her phone. It's so obvious. These girls don't ever spend a single baht on you, because you are their employer, not their life partner. You are obviously acting like a kid in a candy store because likely in real life you couldn't even pick up fleas. 😊 You are just the ATM and you know it. Dangling the prospect of a regular income to the girls. One day you are going to have to be honest with yourself and decide that you will just have to pay the going rate to keep someone around and you'll just have to admit that you are lonely. Not having a partner or even person around that you can fully trust is a real rollercoaster ride. "Loving without trusting, you get frostbite and sunstroke" Enjoy.

It was obvious the way this thread was going, as soon as it was clear that the OP had no capacity to understand that there was a different perspective other than his own. Then when the other protagonist of exactly the same ilk joined his team, his fate was sealed. Once fred hits your team, you know you are on the wrong side... No offence meant, but if you look at the people supporting the OP, they all have issues with anger.

@ThreeCardMonte My posts contain reality. Your posts are totally made up or just full of ugly statements, that obviously match with your character. Thanks for confirming that you don't have a woman who actually loves you or even likes you. Likely no one can. Thai dating apps... for life's misfits😊

@Cameroni You are writing absolute nonsense...as per usual.

@ThreeCardMonte In answer to your question of whether I borrow money from my girls... The truth is that I rarely carry any money at all when we go out. Perhaps a few hundred baht. They usually pay for everything. I reimburse them afterwards, Often they'll say it's their treat to me, but I send it back to them anyway. It's the thought that counts. I needed 75k the other day and since I don't even have an ATM card, a girl sent it to me. The women you know don't give a 💩 about you. You are just a money tree to them. Mine are real relationships. Give and take, Free flowing and full trust. Yours seems just a sponsorship, a one way street. You lot seem totally dysfunctional and out of touch with humanity.

@JackGats What? Without wanting to get personal...it's very clear that certain characters are simply not attractive...at all. I'm not talking about looks, but their views and ways of communicating verge on the repugnant. This on a personal level. Yet these males imagine that they are attractive to women, perhaps due to a lifestyle based on the finance they can provide. No...these people are just repugnant. Only supported by equally repugnant characters. I cannot overstate this. These are not likeable people. Not to man, woman nor beast. Money and BS is the only thing they can use to attract a certain kind of woman and because of this, they imagine all women are the same. Perhaps just my opinion...

@ThreeCardMonte Are you still butthurt about having to P4P? I guess if you have nothing else to offer, you need to coerce them with money. To be honest, I don't go for the Asian girls at all, but strictly European/Russian/Ukranian....24 to 35 years old. I like to have normal conversations, rather than to be stuck with a girl with whom I can barely communicate and have little to nothing in common. Plus I don't need to impress. They either like me or they do not. So we'll go for local meals or eat in. I don't need to pay for their flights. Though saying that, one did ask me to buy her a flight so she could come to me. I declined to do so. Hotter than anything @Cameroni has paid for, I'm sure. But I said no. I already met her once and whilst she is a stunner, I felt that she was also a bit strange. She forgot my birthday. I wasn't impressed. I think I spent a total of 100 baht on a shared mango and sticky rice. We ate from the same plate. Money really doesn't enter the equation. But for yourself and @Cameroni, it seems an integral part of the deal. Just paying to have a companion. I have not ever used a dating app nor am I particularly interested in the local women. I like a woman with breasts and some curves. So, I'll bow out since this isn't the thread for me. Enjoy.

@Cameroni is just a Troll...don't waste your time. He is just frustrated.

@fredwiggy I would ask you if you are okay, but I know that you are not. You seem to have an obsession with claiming that you have proved people wrong, when in fact you have done nothing of the sort. It's just WEIRD 😊 Everything I have written is backed up by your posts. You claim that you know more than anyone, more experienced, have driven twice as much as anyone else... Your posts are peppered with exactly the same things each time...together with your absolutely baseless claims that you have proved me or anyone, wrong. Show me where you have proved ANYONE wrong. You just come out with a great steaming pile of nonsense and then proclaim that you have proved someone wrong. It's patently ridiculous. You fit the mould of someone with NPD. Of that there is little doubt. I do not, but yet you try to try to shoehorn me in, even though you cannot match me with even a single trait. You praise yourself to high heaven and are particularly sensitive to criticism, amongst varied other strange behaviour. Where have you disproved that? You haven't. You just claim it and repeat it as if you have. It's WEIRD. You write that I lie... So who wrote this, @fredwiggy? 😊 To whom are you referring when you list those things? I guarantee that you are referring to yourself. You are totally conceited 😊 Then you add that I am uneducated and a "fully fledged narc" without having a shred of evidence, but just driven by your own hate and bitterness. You write that everyone is sensitive to criticism. I am not. I welcome it. I use it to improve. You don't improve, as you think you are already 'gifted' 😊 @fredwiggy, you are a fully fledged narcissist. No doubt. You fit the description like a glove. It's you. It might be pointing out the obvious, but if you were even one tenth as gifted as you would like to think you are, you wouldn't be living in the middle of arse, in a house built on government land with no money nor resources to get yourself and your daughter out of there and back to the USA where you think you belong. You might be living in a beachfront penthouse with a normal partner who actually loves and respects you without you having to pay for that. But it seems Mr Self Proclaimed Genius prefers living in misery. Constantly complaining about almost everything in his life. The most wonderful thing in your life, according to you, is you.😊 Everything else is below par. Even your daughter suffers from depression, according to you. Am I lying? I don't lie. You do. You lie as easily as breathing. If I could be bothered, I could go through your posts to copy and paste your conceited statements time and time again. I actually shocked that you are denying how conceited you are. But I shouldn't be...because you clearly suffer from NPD.

@fredwiggy You have described yourself to a T in the first paragraph and @Cameroni in the second. I rarely talk about myself at all and I certainly don't believe that others envy me. When I do talk about myself, I'm often surprised that people say that they don't believe me. It's not a thought that ever enters my head. You on the other hand...put exactly those things into writing. That you are the smartest and most experienced etc. Know more than anyone else of any subject you choose. As I see it, you are just totally full of yourself. I am "not very bright" according to you. I told you, you cannot make a post without veiled insults when you feel that someone is criticising you. You become nasty and vindictive. You aren't a nice person @fredwiggy You just pretend to be one. You should go home to your family. Maybe you'll be a happier person...but I doubt it. Aaah...is that @nauseus "calling me out" on my behaviour? I wondered to what you were referring. 😊 Baiting because no one is paying him any attention.

You are weird @fredwiggy It's true that I may have referred to the OP as an idiot. For a few reasons. One is posting a video and expecting everyone to have the same perspective as he did. Two for putting me on 'ígnore' because I chose to agree with another poster who was also critical of his description of events. There may have been other reasons, but I have long moved on from that. Do you see the difference? No bad reactions from me. No name calling. No suggestion that I am more experienced and brilliant than you. Just a simple admission and acknowledgement of my behaviour. That is not something you can do without veiled insults and praising yourself to high heaven. Take a look through your posts to see if you can recognise that behaviour in yourself. That is NPD. You cannot help it. It has become your norm. That is my observation.

No @lordgrinz You bore down upon him. You didn't give him space to maneuver.

@nauseus and @novacova what have they stated? Sometime people just want to have a go, but really they have nothing of substance, so are rightly ignored. 😊 No one takes @Cameroni seriously. No one. @lordgrinz was obviously upset that I agreed with @mancub, but since then, at least ten others have been shown to hold a similar point of view. Lordbloggs?? Who? Are you making things up? I don't concern myself with what some unpleasant people on the Internet might think. I just tell the truth as I see it and allow others to be themselves. That's how I can see that you are a narcissist. I just leave you to be yourself and then point out the traits. You cannot apply any of the traits to me. But many fit with your behaviour. That is undeniable. Are you ready to stop yet?

You tick most of the boxes @fredwiggy It is plainly obvious that you refuse to acknowledge it, even though you know it to be true. Simple question. Do you praise yourself a lot on this board or not? Are you sensitive to criticism or not? The evidence shows that you do praise yourself a LOT and that you are VERY sensitive to criticism. Hence your 'reactions'. These are just simple facts that you refuse to accept. So how can your appraisal of yourself hold any water? It's just nonsense. A fantasy. Reality is a ***** for some. I have nothing against you at all. i am just pointing out my observations. The truth is better than lies.

It's nasty abuse when you use rude words and expletives. I have simply kept to medical descriptions and provided proof and evidence. Who are the five people who have called me out on my behaviour @fredwiggy? People may have been complaining as my dialogue with you is off-topic. Rightly so. So I suggest we stop. You aren't going to learn, so it's just a waste of time. Take care of yourself.

@fredwiggy I posted a summary typical of someone who suffers from NPD. You seem to tick many of the boxes. if you choose to not see that... I have proved my point and don't feel the need to carry on doing so. Take care of yourself.

Anyway, let's move on from this @fredwiggy. We have discussed it. You are too old and it too ingrained in your character for you to ever change. It is what it is. Up to you.