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yes i'm more interested in thai politics than my thai wife and my in-laws. but this is just because i care about my children's future and also i'm injecting so much of my money to thailand even more than 10 thai families combined so yes, i should be aware of thai politics and to what is happening and may happen in my children's homeland and with my assets.
i'm also disappointed from the outcome of this election ie. PPP because they are TRT which means there is no change from the last goverment to the new one. samak is just a puppet. and so poor isaan farmers may benefit by some bucks? yes, but that is short lived. expect 1,000,000 cattle to isaan and more loans to the farmers but in return they have to pay all the loans back with interests anyway (it's just having a debt from a legal source than from a mafia). if you really think of it PPP populist policy is a no brainer and just handing out cash to the poor but in the end taking more cash in return from them thru corruptions. a good government will do much more for all the people in all classes to benefits, not only the poor. but perhaps i should not get too deep with this topic or there will be flames here. so just cut it short here.
anyway, merry christmas and a happy 2008!
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In 2005 TRT got nearly 80% of the votes, in 2007 only half of that. That's a big big loss.
The vote wasn't about PPP vs Democrats or PPP vs Chat Thai. It was PPP against everyone else, and they clearly lost, just like they lost the consitution vote earlier this year.
No other party cares about Thaksin, if you look at this vote as a referendum on his legacy - people told him to shove it and voted for someone else instead.
It's time to let go of that dead horse and move on - majority of people don't want Thaksin anymore.
After Chat Thai and Pua Paendin refused to join PPP, Samak needs at least two other small parties to form the government, same as the current Democrat led coalition. The problem for PPP is that all those small parties are on the other side of the huge ideological gap, the gap PPP has created itself. They are pro-coup/anti-Thaksin, if PPP invites them, it will have to make major concessions and tone down or even abandon its "return Thaksin" winning policy.
There are ways to get around this but those small parties can join Democrats and get into the government without any hassle and backroom deals and risk of alienating their supporters.
If you look at national politics/proportional vote results, PPP's loss is even more dramatic - they've got only slightly over 30% - almost 70% voted against them, so much for "vote PPP get Thaksin" slogan.
The battle isn't over, but Abhisit has all the cards he needs to form the government, what does Samak have? Certainly not the electorate endorsement to return Thaksin at any cost.
Right on every count Plus. Careful. This much fact and reality is sure to scare the hel_l out of most "Chicken littles" on TV (i.e. The Sky is Falling)
and all the farmer's daughters husbands.
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It's encouraging to see Thaksin's son has cleaned up his act and gotten off the drugs. ... i thought otherwise.
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OMG!!
ROFL!
Only 25% of votes should be considered because the other 75% are "stupid".
Promote that man to General!!
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Selling a Communications business to Singapore?
Yes, It was his company, started long before he got into politics. Didn't belong to Thailand. The Junta propoganda made it sound like he sold an asset belonging to the Country. Wrong.
It was indeed his company, but why did it grow so much during his time as PM? Having introduced the village fund, what did the villagers do with their loans? Many bought mobile phones, which greatly boosted the value of Takkos company
Don't you imagine he had this in mind when he introduced the village fund? He was a very shrewd person. If you don't most Thai people do
Like I said......he was a billionair long BEFORE politics.
He was a such a good Prime Minister and businessman that the entire economy grew at rapid pace under his leadership. Thailand was a mess when he took office and was bailed out by the WMF. A loan that Thaksin paid off early.
Did you know the stock market doubled in 2003? Best performing market in the world I recall.
He has a few companies listed, so of course his net worth went up. Way up, along with anybody in the Thai stock market.
To say he cheated his way to the top proves you don't know what your talking about.
He was a billionaire before politics and a multi billionaire in politics.
He used his position to get richer.
If he got richer by abusing his position that is corruption.
Thats what so many people are upset about.
With PPP in power they are afraid it will be more of the same.
Yes Thailand PLC got richer whilst he was in power but little of it filtered down to the guy in the paddies.
Who is upset with Thaksin?
A minority of Thais.
A majority love the guy and the election results prove it AGAIN.
By the way, the guys in the rice paddys love him.
i hate to say this but the majority of thai are also stupid! the populist policy is a scam. taking the side of the poor to win votes as the 75% of the country's population is poor is a clear scam.
a very well articulated and educated post- I would ask though- if populist policies are a scam- what would you call policies that promote tax cuts for the middle class (in countries with large middle class populations), corporate welfare, relaxing of environmental standards... in fact all those policies which narrow the nation's revenues while securing allegience from targeted consituencies?
yes, i agree. all of these are scams. they are all too good to be true. the first scam in politics was "kissing babies" during campaign. BUT, one should choose the lesser scams. some scams are bigger others. eg. banharn takes 10 baht while thaksin takes 1,000 baht...
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Selling a Communications business to Singapore?
Yes, It was his company, started long before he got into politics. Didn't belong to Thailand. The Junta propoganda made it sound like he sold an asset belonging to the Country. Wrong.
It was indeed his company, but why did it grow so much during his time as PM? Having introduced the village fund, what did the villagers do with their loans? Many bought mobile phones, which greatly boosted the value of Takkos company
Don't you imagine he had this in mind when he introduced the village fund? He was a very shrewd person. If you don't most Thai people do
Like I said......he was a billionair long BEFORE politics.
He was a such a good Prime Minister and businessman that the entire economy grew at rapid pace under his leadership. Thailand was a mess when he took office and was bailed out by the WMF. A loan that Thaksin paid off early.
Did you know the stock market doubled in 2003? Best performing market in the world I recall.
He has a few companies listed, so of course his net worth went up. Way up, along with anybody in the Thai stock market.
To say he cheated his way to the top proves you don't know what your talking about.
He was a billionaire before politics and a multi billionaire in politics.
He used his position to get richer.
If he got richer by abusing his position that is corruption.
Thats what so many people are upset about.
With PPP in power they are afraid it will be more of the same.
Yes Thailand PLC got richer whilst he was in power but little of it filtered down to the guy in the paddies.
Who is upset with Thaksin?
A minority of Thais.
A majority love the guy and the election results prove it AGAIN.
By the way, the guys in the rice paddys love him.
i hate to say this but the majority of thai are also stupid! the populist policy is a scam. taking the side of the poor to win votes as the 75% of the country's population is poor is a clear scam.
Farmers arn't stupid. They might be uneducated but they have plenty of smarts.
Majority rules in a democracy, even if they don't go to college.
mmm... i didn't say farmers but ok if you say so. i suggests you take a closer look in bangkok where 90% are educated, thaksin will never win there. and take a good look at singapore which is smaller than bangkok. i think if bangkok is a country i have no doubts that thaksin will not be able to comeback after what he did.
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Selling a Communications business to Singapore?
Yes, It was his company, started long before he got into politics. Didn't belong to Thailand. The Junta propoganda made it sound like he sold an asset belonging to the Country. Wrong.
It was indeed his company, but why did it grow so much during his time as PM? Having introduced the village fund, what did the villagers do with their loans? Many bought mobile phones, which greatly boosted the value of Takkos company
Don't you imagine he had this in mind when he introduced the village fund? He was a very shrewd person. If you don't most Thai people do
Like I said......he was a billionair long BEFORE politics.
He was a such a good Prime Minister and businessman that the entire economy grew at rapid pace under his leadership. Thailand was a mess when he took office and was bailed out by the WMF. A loan that Thaksin paid off early.
Did you know the stock market doubled in 2003? Best performing market in the world I recall.
He has a few companies listed, so of course his net worth went up. Way up, along with anybody in the Thai stock market.
To say he cheated his way to the top proves you don't know what your talking about.
He was a billionaire before politics and a multi billionaire in politics.
He used his position to get richer.
If he got richer by abusing his position that is corruption.
Thats what so many people are upset about.
With PPP in power they are afraid it will be more of the same.
Yes Thailand PLC got richer whilst he was in power but little of it filtered down to the guy in the paddies.
Who is upset with Thaksin?
A minority of Thais.
A majority love the guy and the election results prove it AGAIN.
By the way, the guys in the rice paddys love him.
i hate to say this but the majority of thai are also stupid! the populist policy is a scam. taking the side of the poor to win votes as the 75% of the country's population is poor is a clear scam.
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my hobby is photography, diving, computer, music, electronic gadgets, etc. i think i spent a little more than $5,000 this year.
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My gf added my phone number to the guest list at a Smirnoff party ages ago and ever since I get sms ad messages advertising the latest parties in Chiang Mai. I don't want to receive them, they're just an annoying distraction. They have no number attached, so I can't even block them. My phone doesn't even display thai, so it's random characters or blank.
Any ideas?
if the SMS has an un-disclosed number (sender) you can block them if your mobilephone has this feature. i'm using a samsung u600 and able to block SMS, MMS, call, as long as the numbers are shown or un-disclosed.
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i've reading the bangkok post just now and quite shocked with this news:
excerpt from BP:
"Two other laws on gender equality are awaiting Cabinet approval: The draft Name Prefix Bill, which will give women the choice of a name change after marriage, and the draft amendment of the Nationality Act, to allow foreign men who marry Thai women to request Thai nationality. Foreign women who marry Thai men already have this privilege."
read it all here: http://www.bangkokpost.com/Outlook/13Dec2007_out54.php
well, i think it's about time... although permanent residency is already more than enough for me (relaxing this law).
That link doesn't seem to be working, I wonder then if they have changed their mind?
i think BP already deleted the link and moved the article it in their archive. i do not know that they are not keeping links longer than 6 days!
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From the Royal Thai Embassy website Canberra, Australia.
http://www.thaiembassy.org.au/migration_info.pdf
There is no mention in this document of a foreign national being able to obtain citizenship and the criteria and whether he/she can retain same.
your link only refers to "who can acquire nationality by birth".
check the complete act here: http://www.ibiblio.org/obl/docs3/THAILAND&...onality_Act.htm
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he can just say, "hey, i got our video!" give me 300K now!
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the man is 27 and the woman is 57 what can go wrong?
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Got any numbers to call? Do I need a work permit to get any reward?
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and this is really what it means i guess...
Bangkok Post TodayWhat it takes to be a Thai
Section 10 and 11 from the Nationality Act BE 2508 (1965) as amended by Act BE 2535 (1992)
An alien possessing the following qualifications may apply for naturalisation as a Thai
(1) becoming sui juris in accordance with Thai law and the law under which he/she has Nationality. - should not be crazy, in good health, and able to support yourself.
(2) Having good behavior. - police clearance
(3) having a regular occupation. - work permit
(4) Having a domicile in the Thai Kingdom for a consecutive period of not less than five years until the day of filing the application for naturalisation. - PR (resident permit) for 5 years
(5) Have knowledge of the Thai language as prescribed in the regulations. - able sing the national and king's anthem
Section 11: The provisions of section 10 (4) and (5) shall apply if the applicant for naturalisation as a Thai:
(1) Has rendered distinguished service to Thailand or has done acts to the benefit of official service, which is deemed suitable by the Minister.
(2) is a child or wife of a person who has been naturalised as a Thai or has recovered Thai Nationality, or
(3) is one who used to have Thai Nationality.
the route may look like this:
- you have at least 3 years of non-immigrant visa, work permit and paid taxes to qualify for PR. fee, approx. 200,000 baht (not including tea money).
- stay in thailand by PR. may renew your PR book twice and apply several re-entry during this 5 years. fee, approx. 50,000 baht.
- apply for citizenship. fee, (heard someone, a lady friend, that they've paid 150,000 for tea money and that was 10 years ago). she got naturalised 2-3 years after her application.
so to summarise, you may spend about 500,000 baht and 10 years of application for thai naturalisation not to mention the humiliation from the authorities during this 10 year period. i think i cannot stomach this... but i may be wrong.
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guess where? you see this every month.
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If this move is to comply with equal opportunities legislation, isnt it much more likely that rather than giving farang husbands the right to citizenship, that right will be withdrawn from farang wives?
going backwards? why not?
in this case, there will be more half/half thai-farang orphaned or single parented kids in the next coming years. i hope this is not what the thai government wants to see.
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Does anyone know if Thailand accepts dual nationality? I know in Singapore they don't so any Expat taking a Singapore passport, has to give up their original nationality.
Thailand accepts duality of nationality.
Yes in a limited sense that when a Thai national obtains citizenship of a foreign country it is recognised but if a foreign national obtains Thai citizenship it is not.
There is a list on a website somewhere which lists all countries that recognise dual citizenship, limited dual citizenship and those that do not recognise dual citizenship.
Very complex subject in international law. If one was to become a Thai citizen you would probably have little interest in the country of you birth anyway. You would have gone "completely native"by that time. Not a bad idea.
i agree with you. just think about it, your wife and children are thai, you have a land and house, you can speak the language and you wear that yellow shirt every monday so what is the question for allegiance? and in how much is the probability that your home country will be going to be in war with thailand? 1:193? but if you are a US citizen then the chance might be more.
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go for it. study and finish your degree, it is not too late to change and get legal.
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would like to see the following changes:
- further tightening and screening of tourists to curb child prostitution, drug trafficking, and crimes eg. tourists police to be more pro-active, profiling of tourists in the immigration (random check?), maybe police clearance for tourist visa application be implemented.
- relaxing the visa requirements for farang married with thai (keep family together) and retirees - holders of Non-O as these are the people who help boosts the economy by investment in homes (condominiums), cars, employing maids, deposit in the bank (fixed and savings), stock markets, employments for local people (company), etc.; tourist stays only for 1-2 months and spends obviously less than the long term Non-O holders.
- fair game for all farangs (foreigners) eg. curb the double pricing schemes on all establishments like in national parks. instead of charging more on farangs why not charge the same price (average price between locals and foreigners). if now, thai pays 40 and foreigner pays 200, why not charge 100 for both. they both use the park equally and the foreigner spends more on other things in the park anyway like refresments and souvenirs.
- regulate tuition fees on international schools and bilingual schools.
- abolish the 90 days reporting, this is non-sense.
- re-design the use of work permit. some institution are requiring work permit unreasonably eg. DTAC require work permits to activate international roaming for pre-paid subscribers, what for? they pay first before using the service, applying for fixed line services and ADSL and to many other services that obviously do not need work permits to apply for that a foreigner do not need to work in thailand to pay for them.
- support the fight against global warming!
- abolish the use of gasolhol. this is not efficient alternatives to fuel and it's eating up the farms that used to be planted to supply food for the country.
- finish the bkk-chonburi motorway within next year. to keep it in good condition, keep all the heavy truck in the leftmost lane and implement weighing stations in the toll gates. increas the tolls for these trucks so that they will have to use the local highways instead.
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i don't usually call someone a TROLL...
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try to reply to all those scam e-mails in your yahoo mailbox, you may find some of them located in thailand.
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Pardon... but what exactly does Permanent Resident status mean? I realize in order to obtain this , one has to live in the Kingdom for 5 years continously. Does this mean you don't have to sign in every ninety days?
Cheers..
you still have to...
staying for 5 yrs (i think only 3 yrs tho) just mean that you have continous non-imm visa within those years, you have paid taxes, etc.
edit:typo
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and yes, i will not give up my citizenship in my home country but i would love to have a PR (permanent resident) status in thailand to be with my family.
You can now providing you meet the criteria for PR status.
catch 22, everybody knows that the current requirements are not so easy to meet. i'm married with 2 children but it does not qualify me for PR since i do not work in thailand. then you can say why don't you work in thailand? i can work locally in thailand but i would have to earn less and may not be able to support my family sufficiently like now. two kids in international school, it's not possible to survive with the local salary. so why the bloody work permit is required for this bloody PR? i just don't know...
Exit Poll Results Show PPP Wins
in Thailand News
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actually, thaksin is giving 1,000 baht per head but only 500 baht down to 100 baht are given and the rest are for the middle men who are running the show. but yes, this is peanuts for thaksin.