FrankieGoesToHolly

Look...it's clear that you are trying to put a brave face on this, but she IS torturing you and she IS making your life worse. You were on to Filipina Girl for support and she asked you to buy her clothes... All of that is simply humiliating and it's become completely normal to you. So now this girl is completely taking the urine out of you, you are acting as if it is par for the course. This is the life that you have created for yourself. Abuse and chaos the norm. Remove yourself from the insanity and find yourself a normal woman. Only romance scammers and the like, go to that much trouble to set the scene. She could send you an unadulterated picture in a few seconds. That heavily cropped pic took her days and it's quite abnormal. iPhone X has a 12MP camera. Your pic is 0.2MP. It's not going to get better. Once someone starts lying, they need to continue with their web of deceit. If my girl goes on a business trip, I get a video of the room and video and pics of the surrounding area. Not because I asked, but because it is natural for us to share what's going on in our lives.

So then agree to meet in late Feb and forget about her for now. Back to your pipeline. Forget about love and just have fun.

Did you crop the photo? No phone takes photos of that ratio naturally...and the quality is horrible. She seems to have gone to extraordinary lengths to remove any incriminating details. It's cold at night, where is the comforter? No sheets on the bed and just one pillow? 😊 Is she doing in-calls? People only crop photos when they want to hide something. Why is she not even looking at the camera and why is the photo mirrored? The whole thing is weird. Why are you putting yourself through that? Find yourself a normal girl 😊

Experience. There is NO WAY that girl is looking for a low paying job in Chonburi, during super peak season in Pattaya and surrounds. She either already has commitments or is working with her friend/s.

She's NOT looking for jobs in Chonburi 😊

There is a phrase for this, but I'm pretty sure that it isn't allowed on this forum, even though it's now been X-rated.

It's already unravelled...you just are not ready to accept her terms. What next? That you offer her 50k to go back to you? You already crossed the line, now it's just a question of "How much?" You both already sold yourselves out. Money is your god now.

You receive what you give out. No one attacked you. You tell from your perspective and I tell from mine. For you, only your perspective is the correct one. Otherwise it's lying or trolling or... I accept people are different and give Cameroni respect for telling his story and you respect for creating a stable existence for yourself. It's only you who cannot accept another's perspective if it doesn't tally with your own.

I simply asked you what your accusing him of lying was meant to achieve, followed by your gloating about your own 'relationship'. I have no reason to be upset that you are happy with your situation. Especially as such a situation would not be for me. I don't feel the need to attach myself to a cart nor to be attached to one by someone else. If you are happy with such a situation, that's great. Not for me, thank you. He doesn't want to take things slow, he wants sex with a young and pliable woman. He's okay with paying for it, but she wants more than he can afford.

I think when you write things like this, people are apt to doubt your credibility. Please understand one thing if nothing else...her behaviour has NOTHING to do with you. Nothing AT ALL. Once you have made the choice to do what you have done(both yourself and her), it is much easier to cross that line again. She is a freelancer, no matter which way that you try to paint it.

Have I missed the point of this post?? It appears that you are accusing the OP of lying all along and then you moved on to tell him of the circumstances of your 'wonderful' relationship. Nice...but why?

You did....and you obviously are conflicted about what you found. She is you and you are she. You are both hedging your bets. You are both as honest and truthful as you allow yourselves to be. You are both insecure. You want it on your terms, she wants it on her terms. I could go on and on... Can you handle it? It doesn't look like it.

...that, however it sounded, you understand that your apparently harshest critics were telling you the truth all along. As Jack Nicholson expounded "You can't handle the truth!"

It doesn't matter. It's how you deal with it that matters. Don't get mad about it. If he's a clown, then laugh about it. It's brought a smile to some faces I'm sure and likely it will make others think twice about falling into a similar trap of their own making.

and the same to you.

There may be some truth in that... But it's hard for someone to change their path, when it's all that they know. At least, by posting it here, he receives help and advice from others, even if he picks and chooses what advice to take. It is illustrative to all of us. So Bravo! at least for telling his story.

It says it all in your OP. You just chose to ignore it. Your ego telling you that you could tame her 😊

Yes, indeed they are human. Humans that have sunk to a level at which I do not wish to join them. Of course, you are welcome to take them on. Be your guest. I understand that you feel the need to justify why you are having to pay to keep your Asian partner. I did not have to do so with mine, so your theory doesn't hold water for me. Where is she now? Ready for me to join her. But that is not my choice for now. I'm not knocking you. You made what you think/thought was the best choice for you. It's great that you have created some kind of stability in your life. That's all that I need to say about that. For me, I have love and I didn't need to buy it. It's as simple as that. That's the truth.

OP...please read your OP.

You are but putty in her hands...

Better the devil she knows...

No, that is testing the waters. Now she understands that he is still on the hook and she is back in control. He is now in exactly the position of the Thai man and the Austrian...until they too tired of her games and shut the door.

So you pushed it back to me, doesn't change anything. What you mean is that there is nothing deep and mysterious in what you write. I accept that.

Of course we can assume that you were speaking for yourself. I already wrote what happened to me. Perhaps you should read and absorb, prior to writing what seems like complete nonsense to me. I've known this woman for five years and I don't remember telling you that she was from this country. Some people will always be 'victims' @Hummin and they will use their victimhood to punish other people. Whatever happened to me, I stay loving and testament to that is being surrounded by people who love, trust and stay with me without coercion, money or material goods. All you lot seem to do is to count the value for money you are getting from your union. As for limited experience...how would you know? Do you imagine your experience more extensive?

You want a whore in the bedroom and a good girl outside it. How is that working out for you? She was working. That's her job. You aren't special. Anyone can be nice when they think they are getting what they want or think they are going to get what they want. it's how they behave in adverse weather that makes the difference. Neither of you have particularly high standards, but you still let each other down. You get a 'thumbs down' from me.