FrankieGoesToHolly

Actually @Prubangboy has seen him and even given him half decent advice. But he's not interested in accepting that 'his girl' is out there, making money for her kids and family. She's not educated and she's lazy, according to Cameroni. So what's left? He can either accept it and be nice to her anyway or just drive himself mad with it. But unless he can compensate for potential earnings in peak season, she won't be returning right now.

You can see how paying your 'girlfriend' a 'salary' complicates the equation. You are now behaving like a father keeping tabs on his daughter, than in a loving and trusting relationship. But it's your choice to go out with virtual children and to coerce them with money. Take the money out of the equation and what do you have? She's out for fun, adventure and MONEY. You are incidental to that. You are so tied up in this, that you cannot see the forest, but for all the trees in the way. It's as plain as day. You are just another sucker who believes his own hyperbole. You've let it get to your head.

I'm not sure if that is a response to the post you have quoted or just a comment on the topic in general. I'll take it as a comment on the thread in general. I think the issue is that some people didn't learn anything at all. Hence the belief that women only want money and men's resources etc. Life is a paradox. It can be two opposing things at the same time. It's up to you to decide which is dominant or to learn to live in balance. If you believe something, it becomes real, for you, even though it doesn't exist for someone else. I choose to believe @Cameroni , even though it appears completely ridiculous to me, because I understand that my 'reality' is not everyone else's. So I describe what I see, honestly. That's all we can and should do. No need to get mad about it, but to consider that is the truth for someone else. We are just here to tell our seemingly errant 'brother', to be careful out there 😊 But ultimately, he's free to learn the lessons by himself. Hopefully not harming himself nor others in the process.

More strangeness...let it go.

Just enjoy it for what it was. Don't try to make it something that it is not. You bought yourself a temporary ego boost. She's not your girlfriend in any way, shape or form. Neither are any of the other girls to whom you are chatting. That is the, perhaps harsh to you, reality.

Do you mean that I am the one so easily 'triggered' and manic to the point of absolutely freaking out. I've seen that behaviour countless times. As I stated earlier, it's easier to imagine the fault is in others, than to acknowledge your own faults. Whether that goes for me too, is entirely irrelevant. Weird and ironic, on so many levels.

The massaging of the ego and the boost of confidence. It took a while for that to calm down and for reality to set in. Those of us not involved were incredulous from the very beginning. But when someone is massaging your ego and you are feeling good, you might be inclined to think that they are just jealous of your success, when really they are closer to neutral than you are and are shouting out the warnings. Be careful out there! 😊 There be man eating sharks 😊

That was a weird post...😊 on quite a few levels 😊 I guess it's easier to see other people's weirdness, rather than to acknowledge your own.

I think others have been saying that all along...

What does it matter? All you need to do is visit the cafe. If she's there, you can pretend that you don't know her, act like a normal customer and leave. You can talk later. If she's not there... Then you'll have to decide if you still want to be around something quite so... fishy 😊 Edit: I see that you still don't actually know where she is. How sad.

So, you've seen the Austrian and Thai men. Imagine the female versions of those men and then tell me, how would you feel about having sex with them and how much would they have to pay to you to have sex with them, regularly. That's how desperate that woman is. Either desperate or...why would she choose such old and ugly men, if she's such an attractive and intelligent woman? Is it a schoolgirl or a schoolboy's dream? To shack up with someone who might be their grandparents and have sex with them? Do you think that she loves sex with old and fat and unattractive men? I can understand why you think that you are a step up, but that's a pretty low bar.

The first Thai girl I met in Pattaya behaved in exactly the same way. I mean, exactly. I was taken aback, but ran away anyway. She left a note written in Thai with my hotel reception, telling how much she loved me. I felt quite bad and kept in touch with her. She would tell me about her life and even when she went 'short time'. She paid to get all my emails printed out and translated and told me that she even had an old man supporting her, but that she loved me. I still said no and I didn't send even a single baht. But we stayed in touch for many years. I could tell a lot more about that story, but her new partner might be reading. She gambled away a lot of his hard work. Poor @Cameroni is just ****struck. 😊 But I look forward to his sojourn to Chonburi. There is entertainment value to this thread. You have to give it that.

Offers are the same as I posted earlier. Just a small price differential.

This is exactly the bar girl experience of yesteryear. That's why the guys returned, again and again. The GFE. I had it too, but I said...thanks, but no thanks.

That is exactly why he is doing it. He cannot believe his 'luck' and thinks his one is different.

Looking for love online 😊 whilst with the Austrian.... Why would she need to cheat on him because of an argument over apartment cleaning? That doesn't make sense at all. That's just a lack of decency/scruples/morals. I'm SURE that he has a different take on it.

I don't believe that. Anyone who has gone the route of plastic surgery will be posting online. After all, you found her selling herself ONLINE.

She doesn't like you all that much though 😊 I would say, contemptuous, but worth stringing along just in case. Better the devil she knows. But go there and you will be sure. After all, if you are there, you can just whisk her away from her low paying job, to be together straight away. Do it! 😊

You told us that she told you that she would leave "sure" once you gave her salary. You had to kiss her butt to get her to calm down. Plus, according to you, you hadn't been paid yet. You should at least check what you wrote before embarrassing yourself further. Yes, if I was messing around with women who sell themselves online and I was serious about her, I would like to hear his side. I mean, neither of you have any scruples about checking the phone of the other, so how would speaking to an actual person be any different? If you have access to her social media and her real name, then why don't you know where she is? That's the whole point of social media, is it not? You are not part of her inner circle, otherwise you would know. You left out the part about the voting nonsense and swallowed her story about her sister not being allowed to be there. Clearly all a steaming pile... Just one excuse after another. Incredible, isn't it? If you went with her, she might have actually gone there. Now you are living in regret, whilst she pulls your strings.

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So let's recap... After forty days and forty nights of intense frolicking and lovemaking, you don't actually even know this girl's real name. You don't have access to any of her social media accounts and you don't actually know where she is right now. You met her online, where she proudly announced that she loved "sex and money", she didn't allow you to contact the Austrian in order to confirm her story...she literally told you that once you paid her that she'd be out of there. If she loved you, why leave at all and if she's angry, then why already agree to meet after Feb. 20th? Do you really think that a normal cafe would accept her on a one month contract? Are you really that obtuse? She's a freelancer 😊 Just living her life. Whereas you have been 'struck' and cannot get enough. She knows what to do to string you along and when the time comes, if a better offer hasn't come along, she can decide. Just like Bangkok Girl is stringing you along. It's just another tale of a sad, lecherous old man chasing young women.

How much do you imagine she can earn, working as a waitress in a cafe? Let's say 15k per month plus tips. You could easily cover that. Her strong attraction to you in conjunction with your covering the possible loss of salary, should result in her agreeing to meet you asap. Yet... 😊 Now if she were working in another industry, in Chonburi or Sri Racha or even Pattaya, meeting Japanese workers or other friendly foreigners, helping them with their language skills, she might not be quite so keen to give up that income stream. The course of true love, eh? The thread has already reached the end of it's credibility.

https://www.facebook.com/people/DAWN-Espresso-Nitro-Bar/61550825362321/ in Rayong. @Cameroni Can you post a screenshot of the conversation where she writes the name of the 'cafe'?

Someone already confirmed, Poland.

Why so oversensitive? I referred to the burger bun not being toasted and the lack of juicy toppings and for that matter, appropriate garnishes. So the thing, overall, looked quite dry and unappetising. That's what I think. So sorry that you are unable to accept valid criticism. You obviously think your burger making prowess cannot be surpassed.