JerryM

If, in fact, the House approves a contempt resolution against both Clintons and refers it to DoJ, at least when Peter Navarro was in the same position, he sought a (civil) declamatory judgment from the DC Court that the House Select Committee investigating the January 6th attack was "unlawful". Navarro was indicted by the grand jury a few days after his motion was denied. The Comer resolution for contempt repeatedly, among others reasons, cited the legislative purpose of the hearing would be to investigate "ways in which Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell sought to curry favor and exercise influence to protect their illegal activities."

My narrative/agenda is the memo in the topic title which I have read. And I don't have to respond to your and others questions like Simon says do this Simon says do that.

Now time for breakfast. (Actually already had breakfast but that answer avoids the use of an expletive).

AI Gemini: The Receipt (Form 6051-D): ICE is legally required to provide a Property Receipt. If you did not receive one, this is a violation of their internal protocol. This receipt is your primary "ticket" to getting the device back. Data Extraction: If they have imaged the data, they may keep the physical device for months if it is part of an ongoing criminal investigation. Transfer Issues: If a detainee is moved from one facility to another, property often gets lost or lags behind.

AI Gemini: Expansion of Phone Seizures: Under the Border Security Act (2025) and new DHS guidelines, agents have expanded their authority to seize mobile phones even from "non-suspects" at border crossings and during raids. These devices are often processed using AI tools like "ELITE" or "Mobile Fortify" to map social and financial connections.

AI Gemini: In the eyes of the U.S. Supreme Court, an administrative warrant is a legal tool that allows government agencies to conduct inspections or searches for regulatory purposes (like health, safety, or environmental codes) rather than for criminal evidence. While the Fourth Amendment still protects you from "unreasonable" administrative searches, the Supreme Court has created a unique set of rules for them that differ significantly from typical criminal warrants. 1. The "Administrative Probable Cause" Standard The biggest distinction is the level of proof required. For a criminal warrant, the police need "probable cause" that a crime was committed. For an administrative warrant, the Supreme Court established a "flexible" or "lesser" standard in the landmark case Camara v. Municipal Court (1967). NB the new ruling is solely a decision of how to interpret the use of administrative warrants by the DHS Office of the General Counsel -- and they ain't saying on just how or what they base this new determination only that it comes from Executive Order 14159. The new opinion says that, as of now, administrative warrant CAN serve as sole warrant for arrest NB2 An administrative warrant is a warrant obtained from a judge by an administrative body to search for violations of administrative rules and regulations. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/administrative_warrant Sample Form I-205 https://www.ice.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Document/2017/I-205_SAMPLE.PDF

The DoJ would first have to obtain grand jury indictment(s): (Peter) Navarro sought to overturn the 2020 presidential election and in February 2022 was subpoenaed twice by Congress. Navarro refused to comply and was referred to the Justice Department. In 2022, a grand jury indicted him on two counts of contempt of Congress. In 2023, Navarro was convicted on both counts, and in 2024, he was sentenced to four months in jail, becoming the first former White House official imprisoned on a contempt-of-Congress conviction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Navarro

Thank you. Whether they can get a grand jury to indict these church service disruptors, there may even be some high-level prosecutors left in the MN US attorneys office to handle the cases. Top fraud investigator, five others quit U.S. Attorney’s office January 13, 2026 The career prosecutor overseeing the sprawling federal investigation into social program fraud in Minnesota resigned abruptly this week. First Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph H. Thompson was one of at least six senior lawyers to leave the office of the U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota on Tuesday, according to the New York Times and other outlets. https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/01/13/top-fraud-investigator-five-others-quit-u-s-attorneys-office/

Oh. On another forum I was obliquely referred to as not an intelligent person. So I'm getting used to it.

So, what does that have to do with anything?

Your question has nothing to do with what i posted. via Gemini AI:

With the result of a grand jury to indict or not. 4 questions so far.

I already answered that.

I just posted a to why the protestors were there. Whatever right they had or not had to disrupt the service will be determined by a MN Federal grand jury.

The 'pastor' is listed in a lawsuit: DAVID EASTERWOOD, in his official capacity as U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Field Office Director for St. Paul, Minnesota; U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION https://assets.aclu.org/live/uploads/2026/01/COMPLAINT-HUSSEN-v.-NOEM-1.pdf AI Gemini: As of January 2025, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is permitted to conduct enforcement actions, including arrests, at "sensitive locations" such as churches, schools, and hospitals. The Trump administration rescinded previous, long-standing policies that largely restricted such operations, giving agents authority to target these locations.

From the CBSNews link above: Protesters against ICE enter St. Paul church service Protesters said they entered St. Paul's Cities Church on Sunday, after discovering that an Immigration and Customs Enforcement official appeared to be one of the pastors at the church.

Minnesota magistrate judge rejects charges against Don Lemon over anti-ICE church protest, blocks some charges for 2 protesters Updated on: January 22, 2026 / 5:11 PM EST / CBS News A Minnesota federal magistrate judge refused to sign a complaint charging independent journalist Don Lemon in connection with a protest inside a church in St. Paul on Sunday, multiple sources familiar with the proceedings told CBS News. "The attorney general is enraged at the magistrate's decision," said a source familiar with the matter. Attorney General Pam Bondi has been in Minnesota for two days, as the Justice Department has sought to surge prosecutorial and law enforcement resources there. A different source stressed that the process is not over, and the Justice Department could find other avenues to charge Lemon. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/magistrate-judge-rejects-charges-don-lemon-anti-ice-protest-minnesota-church/

Seems to me -- as per Todd Blanche saying there would be a stalemate if the court appoints any new interim US Prosecutor -- everything grinding to a halt in the District is in Comey's favor.

Also on Tuesday, the (East VA) chief judge of the court solicited applications for a court-appointed successor to Halligan. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche suggested on social media that Trump would fire any replacement named by the court. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-judge-orders-trump-ally-halligan-stop-using-us-attorney-title-2026-01-20/ NB Judge Novak, who caused this final Halligan blow-up, is a Trump first term appointee.

Culture Who We Are -- Medicine Medicine men and women still play a vital role in the lives of Seminole Indians. These special individuals do not replace medical doctors, nor are their "treatments" designed to take the place of organized medicine. Usually elders (or especially gifted young people) who have gained the respect of Tribal members, employ roots, herbs, animal parts and other ingredients of nature to treat a variety of physical and mental disorders. Traditional chants and other customs, unexplained outside the Tribe, can also be important parts of the medicine man's technique. https://www.semtribe.com/culture/medicine

Trump-appointed prosecutor who pursued indictments against the president's foes is leaving post from AP Jan 20, 2026 Lindsey Halligan, who, as a hastily appointed Justice Department prosecutor, pursued indictments against a pair of President Donald Trump's adversaries, is leaving her position as her months-long tenure has now concluded, Attorney General Pam Bondi said Tuesday night. Novak, who was appointed to the bench by Trump during the Republican president's first term in office, chided Justice Department leadership for what he suggested was an improperly antagonistic defense of Halligan by Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche in an earlier court filing. “Ms. Halligan’s response, in which she was joined by both the Attorney General and the Deputy Attorney General, contains a level of vitriol more appropriate for a cable news talk show and falls far beneath the level of advocacy expected from litigants in this Court, particularly the Department of Justice,” Novak wrote. https://www.kcra.com/article/trump-attorney-lindsey-halligan-leaving-position/70067874

To me this is the most significant outcome so far on the Epstein files: Trump has (figuratively) sworn on a stack of bibles that he NEVER flew on Epstein's jet. The flight logs go to show that Trump has no problem making a false statement and, maybe in his various litigations, that should be stipulated. Trump flew on Epstein jet eight times in the '90s, according to prosecutor email WASHINGTON, Dec 23 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump flew on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's private jet "many more times than previously has been reported," according to an email from a New York prosecutor that forms part of a new batch of documents about Epstein released Tuesday by the U.S. Justice Department. In an email dated January 7, 2020, the unidentified prosecutor wrote that flight records showed Trump had flown on Epstein's private jet eight times during the 1990s. Among those were at least four flights on which Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell was also aboard. Maxwell is serving a 20-year prison sentence for helping late financier Epstein sexually abuse underage girls. In a social media post in 2024, Trump said he "was never on Epstein’s Plane, or at his ‘stupid’ Island." https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-justice-department-releases-new-tranche-epstein-files-2025-12-23/

ditto.

As far as I can tell there will likely be nothing in the files that could warrant criminal prosecution or be subject to civil action. Statute of limitations if nothing else. Embarrassing maybe.

What you described was a NY State criminal and NY State civil case. And my guess would be, with 2 federal criminal indictments in hand, they would figure slim chance of anything similar coming out of the Epstein files would come close.