beechguy

Your in the wrong forum, perhaps a Moderator will be along to move it. This current entry will be finished when exiting the country, and you will begin a new 90 day entry when entering with the multi-entry. So, yes, you will lose time on this entry.

You need to get a new passport. With yours expiring 26 July you have NO chance. Go to you embassy and get this done.

(my present visa expires on 26th July.) sorry dont get the connection between passport and visa

Technically there is no "marriage visa", as noted you can obtain an extension of stay, based on your marriage. Usually the advice, is to go with about 30 days remaining on you current permission to stay. You will be given a consideration period, before the final extension stamp. If they won't work with you, take your marriage documents, and obtain a Non-Immigrant "O" at Savanakhet, Laos.

You could a obtain a one year multi-entry, but if applying for an extension, and you have everything prepared, a single entry will do.

As usual, dozens of posts and information in the visa section, if one can be bothered to read a little. Actually, I think it would be better if a Mod moved this there.

so reporting is for both O-A visa and for extensions of stay it seems ?

Only been posted at least a 1000 times before. If you stay 90 consecutive days, it does not matter about visa, or extension of stay, you need to report. Unfortunately. it seems you can't be bothered to read and learn.

As usual, your problem with the May 25th date has been explained numerous times. Wouldn't it be better if you educate yourself, on what you have, before it becomes an issue.

Next visa? You can do it however you wish, if you are from one of the countries listed, yes, you can simply apply for an extension at Immigration, not a visa, in Thailand.

If you wish to stay longer, why not go on to Laos, and apply for another, double entry Tourist Visa, and start the same process you attempted to begin with.

It would be best to apply for an extension of stay based upon marriage (it is not a non-o visa) the next time your extension is due renewal.

Permanent residency or citizenship takes years to get approval. So be best change to the extension based upon marriage.

If its not a non O visa, how is it called?

Thanks

It's called an "Extension of Permission to Stay", based on your marriage, it is not a visa.

Each time you re enter Thailand you will get a new visa waiver stamp. 15 days for overland re entry & 30 days if re entry is by air.

That depends on what nationality.

I second what blackcab is saying.

I set up a company here last year. End of June, beginning of July I flew over from the UK for 1 week, signed everything that needed to be signed to officially set up the company, interviewed potential recruits, and found an office to rent. I went back to the UK, got a 90-day single entry non-immigrant B visa and returned in the middle of August Thailand to live. Staff started on 1st September and before 90-days expired I got my work permit, and following that my 1-year extension. All done through the proper channels, with the process clearly explained beforehand

If what you are saying, digitalchromakey, is correct then no foreigner could set up a company here as they would be unable to legally work in it for 2 years. How could that possibly be the case?

Because that's not what he is saying. One can legally work with a work permit, and a single or multi entry "B" visa, and that would require leaving the country every 90 days. He is talking about obtaining the extensions of permission to stay, so one would no longer need to leave every 90 days, but perform the 90 day reports with immigration.

First, how about you understand, the difference between visas, and extensions of permission to stay. They are not the same.

Are you currently here on a "B" Visa, then was given a "Extension of Permission to Stay" based on your employment?

Are you going to continue working? Why would you cancel the work permit?

If on a current, extension of permission of stay, can they not simply change the reason, from employment to marriage?

As per above, if they insist they can't issue the extension based on marriage because of they "B" Visa, then it should be simple enough to go to Savanakhet, Laos or some other neighboring Consulate and apply for the "O" Visa, which that entry, can be extended based on marriage.

According to the dozens of posts and responses asking the same question, yes. Also, usually noted, one doesn't lose any days if they go early.

What can I say, discussed here, dozens of times before, so nothing new.

http://driving.information.in.th/driving-licence.html

^^^ link that says not allowed on tourist visa

Poor research from the Forum, Google,

Did you look at the Pinned Topics in the top of the Pattaya Section?

Did you look at the Pinned Topics in the Thailand Motor Forum?

@Sumrit:

I'm not sure I get you... I have a 1 yr multiple entry visa, expiring in Sept 2015, issued at a Thai embassy abroad. It is not a 1-yr multiple entry extension of stay. So I don't have any "re-entry permit," and I have to leave the country every 90 days. Despite that 90-day rule, I have never had a problem getting a 1 yr work permit renewal, as long as I have 60-90 days left on my current entry.

Work permit expires end of May, I wanna get it renewed the soonest in case of any contingency and also coz I'll be busy and traveling later this month.

What the hell is a "1-yr multiple extension of stay"? And why are you leaving the country every 90 days if you have a 1 year work visa extension? Have you made any 90 reports? Seriously bro you posted some confusing crap.

The confusing crap, is by people like you, who apparently can't be bothered to read and understand the process. Apparently Sumrit could stand to do a little more reading also.

The Op plainly states, he has a one year multiple-entry visa, each entry is for 90 days. He does not have a one year extension of stay, so does not need to do 90 day reports. He also does not have a problem, obtaining a one year work permit, even though he is stamped into the country for those 90 day periods. Work permits, visas, and extensions of stay are not the same thing.

BEECHGUY,

If you look at the OP junkofdavid2 does NOT clearly state he has a one year multiple entry VISA, only that he has 'a 1-yr multiple entry'. In junkofdavid2's second post (post 4) he states he has a work permit. I was responding to those two posts and (wrongly) assumed that, because he had a work permit, in saying he has 'a 1-yr multiple entry' he was re-entering Thailand using a multiple entry re-entry permit to maintain his status quo.

I read those two posts clearly and there is no mention of VISA in either of them.

The OP only made it clear that he was using a 1-yr multiple entry VISA in response to my post and questions.

Post #1. The clue is, he said he always gets a 90 day entry. As to the work permit, it has nothing to do with his stay or visa.

Title of the OP, clue #2, if he had an 'Extension of Permission to Stay", he would have been stamped in for the remainder, not 30 or 90 days.

@Sumrit:

I'm not sure I get you... I have a 1 yr multiple entry visa, expiring in Sept 2015, issued at a Thai embassy abroad. It is not a 1-yr multiple entry extension of stay. So I don't have any "re-entry permit," and I have to leave the country every 90 days. Despite that 90-day rule, I have never had a problem getting a 1 yr work permit renewal, as long as I have 60-90 days left on my current entry.

Work permit expires end of May, I wanna get it renewed the soonest in case of any contingency and also coz I'll be busy and traveling later this month.

What the hell is a "1-yr multiple extension of stay"? And why are you leaving the country every 90 days if you have a 1 year work visa extension? Have you made any 90 reports? Seriously bro you posted some confusing crap.

The confusing crap, is by people like you, who apparently can't be bothered to read and understand the process. Apparently Sumrit could stand to do a little more reading also.

The Op plainly states, he has a one year multiple-entry visa, each entry is for 90 days. He does not have a one year extension of stay, so does not need to do 90 day reports. He also does not have a problem, obtaining a one year work permit, even though he is stamped into the country for those 90 day periods. Work permits, visas, and extensions of stay are not the same thing.

I would just try the Immigration Office. This is mentioned on a regular basis, you can use the Search Function to see what others have done. Always a good idea to check your stamps before leaving.

You could possibly get a multiple entry Non Immigrant B visa. This would be valid for 1 year, but you would be obliged to leave the country every 90 days and then return.

What about the online reporting they have now? Wouldn't this satisfy the 90 day reporting?

No. With a Multi-Entry Visa, you are stamped permitted to stay 90 days, the must leave the country, or get an extension of permission to stay. Nothing to do with the 90 day address reports.

Discussed several times, you may find something using the Search Function. My guess, is you will have to get the relevant documents, and apply for a "B" Visa at a Consulate outside of Thailand. There also reports in the Pinned Topics Section about getting visas in the region.

No, you aren't "locked in". You can exit, and apply for a Non-Immigrant "B" Visa, or an "O" if married to a Thai, just need to start a company, or find an employer. There may be some cases where a change of visa status could occur within country, but I wouldn't count on it. By the way, people aren't converting Tourist Visas to work permits, they are changing visas, that will allow the work permit to be issued, visas and work permits are separate issues.

Of course if the purpose of the journey was to visit Superrich to change money, then surely you would have saved a lot of time, money and apparently aggravation by visiting the Superrich branch next to Thai Airways on Vib-Rangsit road?? Same end of town as Fashion Island and easier journey and tolls not required....

Don't know where that is located. Only know super rich and money changers at that part of bkk.

Ever hear of Google, Bing, etc.? Anyway, as not unusual, the Op asks for something, then bitches when he gets it.

I think you need to do a little more research. I was under the impression, an "O-A", allowed a one year entry, every entry while valid. A one year,multi-entry "O", would allow a 90 day stay each entry, while valid. Which on are you actually intending to apply for?

Most Immigration offices don't want to do the one year extension, more than 30 days early, some will 45-60 days under certain circumstances. Issuing of the one year extension can be same day, but have read of some having to wait a day or two.

Gotta love ThaiVisa......

It's a 50/50 percent split between really helpful folks and utter <deleted>.

Just gotta separate the wheat from the chaff.

Thanks to all the former.......I won't make the same mistake again. Ta.

I like it. You've asked a question that's already been answered dozens of times before. As a matter of fact, there was a post from 4-12-2015, only that guy asked, before it was problem. You couldn't be bothered to look at current posts, you couldn't be bothered to use the Search Function, you couldn't be bothered to read the Pinned Topics Section, yet you seem to think it's our fault you made a silly mistake.

Thank you BudRight..........

that was kinda my original gripe. I felt I did nothing wrong. They should give more leeway with the "Enter before' date. Even two or three days.

We cannot all be experts here.

Many Consulates do use similar wording, but it doesn't make any difference to those that are ignorant of the procedure.

As noted several times already, you don't have to be an expert, just follow the advice of those, that are. This same situation gets mentioned on a regular basis, and people are cautioned to make their entry before those dates.

Unfortunately for you, you couldn't be bothered to ask questions before it became an issue. If you want to learn something, perhaps you should spend a little more time reading, instead of whining about a system that seems to work just fine for millions every year.

It's still a stupid rule. A stupid thing that is easily knowable does not become less stupid.

In what way is it stupid? You get a visa that has a limited life, just as do visas issued by every country in the world, and when it's expired it can no longer be used. He's still got a 30 day entry extendable by another 30 days.

In most cases involving visa entries, you have to check the date by which the visa must be used and the date your permission to stay ends. Not rocket science and if you're unsure about the implications, ask (or do a search) on TV or ask at immigrations. There may at times be language issues (at either source) but most of the straight-forward & basic issues produce pretty straight-forward answers.

If you buy medicine with a use by date, do you think that applies only to the first tablet or capsule and that the rest can be taken whenever you feel like it?

I guess I'm going to have spell it out for you.

It's stupid because one entry + extension = 90 days and unless you use it the same day it was issued and then turn around go back the second entry is useless. The issue is not that it has a validity - it is that the length of that validity. That clear enough for you? Sorry it doesn't figure into your 'every rule is reasonable because everywhere has rules' delusion.

Not everyone needs, or wants, to push their stay to the exact date. Stupid, is not understanding what is in your passport, and not asking questions before hand.

It's still a stupid rule. A stupid thing that is easily knowable does not become less stupid.

Why is it a stupid rule?

I don't think any visa issued would be good for infinity for entry to any country. They all have to expire at some time.

'Some time' doesn't mean the visa must expire exactly 90 days after its issued. They could add a few days so that so that this type of situation isn't so common.

That, or for the person that is too stupid to read and comprehend, should just stay home in their nanny state.

Agree with post #12. It can be quite confusing for someone not clued-up on the rules and procedures in Thailand.

You kinda feel for the OP because he was going by the expiry date on the extension by CM Immigration, when he should have also checked the enter by date.

There is a related post here:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/187149-how-long-can-i-stay-in-thailand-after-my-tourist-visa-expires/#entry1963904

Make sure you do your final border run the day before your Visa expires. Check the date. If you wait until your 2nd 30 day extension finishes you may be too late.

So in the OP's situation its not worth doing the border/visa run on the day of the expiry as the quote from the link above quite correctly advises.

On a related note, I am still confused as to how come his enter before stamp is 12 April 2015 (so it actually means the OP needs to enter on or before 11 April...is that correct??). Visa was issued on the 13 Jan 2015, so shouldn't it be: enter before 14 April 2015.

The use of "until", "within", "by", "before" (I am guessing "before" means before 12 midnight on the night of 11 April) are so much riddled with confusion.(Does it include that date or does it mean before that date etc.)

Please see:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293915-i3686-k6120246-Thai_Visa_expiry-Thailand.html

Its about time we put a stop to the confusion.

There is no confusion, for those that can be bothered to pay attention and look at the stamps in their passport. As I said, this is discussed on a regular basis.