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20 minutes ago, sungod said:

I find it amusing that those who claim to be democratic dont respect the views of the majority. 

 

Had the Brexit vote been the other way around with the same margins would you be bleating so much? 

 

 

 

Well the vote didn't go the other way so we will never know.  Brexit will go ahead but with the DUP being all for a soft Brexit don't expect the May vehicle getting pushed through anymore.  I suspect that once the negotiations are agreed we will end up with something like the Norwegian deal.  We will see who is bleating then shall we.

1 minute ago, Basil B said:

Actually it is officially "Kensington"  nothing else.

 

Current constituency Kensington created in 2010 from "Kensington and Chelsea" which was created from Kensington North & Kensington South in 1997.

 

Thank you for the correction and as I lived in Chelsea I guess that doesn't count.

2 minutes ago, oxo1947 said:

I dont think you understand the system mrfill...... So you can wander around posting how silly the Brits are to PREFER to do this---or you may want to Google it & find that they have no option-- If you are not an O.A.P. and you do not have a licence then you can be arrested and (if you dont pay the  fine) jailed

Or not watch the BBC channels at all.  Many people watch TV and listen to the radio without having to pay the licence fee.  My neighbours do.  These days you can watch TV on many devises.

6 hours ago, bandito said:

If Trump is going to testify on oath then either Comey or Trump is lying, under oath.

Interesting scenario, who is?

Just put the names side by side and it is clear who is lying,  Donald Trump is a compulsive liar whereas Comey has the respect of all who know him.

22 minutes ago, Pdaz said:

British voters wake up and ask, "Who the <deleted> was dumb enough to believe Jeremy Corbyn's pipe dream manifesto"

 

 

Kensington and Chelsea (the last to declare) have fallen to Labour.  Never thought I would see that happen, I lived there for many years before moving to Thailand.

British voters did wake up and voted against Theresa May and there was nothing dumb about that!

30 minutes ago, HHTel said:

The Nation has the 'forming a government' completely wrong.  She does not have to form a coalition and indeed she isn't going to do so.  As the largest party she is entitled to form a 'minority government'.  She has the support of the DUP but not a coalition.

 

And again, The Nation doesn't seem to have a clue!

It is true that it isn't a coalition and isn't going to be.  It is also true that May needs to have the backing of another party and the DUP is one of very few who would get into bed with the Tories under May.  Just what concessions May will make to the nutcases in the DUP remains to be seen.

Brexit will go ahead but probably softer which will be a good thing and the markets are already responding positively to that thought.

Apparently there are books running on who will survive the longest.  May or Trump? Certainly May is under pressure to go but like Trump she will have to be carried out kicking and screaming!

Clearly the DUP will appeal to some of the posters on here and some of them are already praising them. No surprises there.  May doesn't  care what the DUP stand for as they are just about the only party who would get into bed with her and she is desperate.  It will be interesting though to see just what concessions May has to make to them to get them to sign on the bottom line.

Yes after all the drama yesterday  May will struggle on with the DUP in tow.  Many people concerned about that but given the mess the country is in we just have to live with it. 

It is talking about safety of tourists and not ex-pats who quickly learn the survival methods needed.

3 minutes ago, vogie said:

It's a bigger win than Labour got, the point being I am not rejoicing about it, it was dissapointing. But Labour supporters seem ecstatic about losing.

And sometimes I do wear a kilt when in the Highlands, a sheep can hear a zipper from miles away.

I agree about the labour supporters but I think part of it is the way they picked up votes when many thought this election would be the death nail for them. 

Anyway it's my wedding anniversary today and I have to take my wife out to dinner tonight so I will retire from the fray for now.

8 minutes ago, Retiredandhappyhere said:

Both parties who gained the most votes in the election clearly stated that they supported Brexit.  Why do you think that the people who voted for those parties can now be ignored.

True enough people voted for Brexit. Unfortunately they didn't know what kind of Brexit it was going to be.  In fact not many knew what Brexit involved at all.  Now they are starting to realise!

50 minutes ago, vogie said:

Without the need for a belt, my trousers would fall down.

Try a kilt

48 minutes ago, vogie said:

Labour made gains and lost, the Tories lost ground but won, it is not too difficult?

And today the Tories have had to go cap in hand to the RUD (yes the  RUD) and ask them for help in forming a government.  Call that a win!

49 minutes ago, citybiker said:

Unfortunately, the real world still has in denial remainers.

The rest of us move on..

So when May said "I am calling this election to get a strong mandate from the people for Brexit" that was moving on?

4 minutes ago, nontabury said:

I keep reading here on TV that LABOUR have done well, while the CONSERVATIVES have had a bad election. This I cannot disagree with.

Before the election the Conservatives had a majority and the labour party was in disarray. Now they don't have a majority and labour has made significant gains.  Not hard to get is it?

1 minute ago, citybiker said:

Also, the Tories didn't crash in Scotland they gave the SNP a bloody nose.

I agree, without the swing in Scotland to the Tories they would be dead in the water.

4 minutes ago, citybiker said:

The rest of us move on..

Did you not notice the result of the general election?

2 minutes ago, citybiker said:

 

They had the opportunity the first time.

Tough luck they didn't bother...


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You are right and that is why they came out this time and crashed the Tories.  Too late to stop Brexit but it certainly stops May's stupid "hard" one.

51 minutes ago, GuiseppeD said:

A second Brexit vote?  Give me a break.

 

Will probably be a bigger margin than the first time.  Don't confuse today's result with that of Brexit.

 

 

Back in the real world a second referendum would return a decisive remain vote.  However it isn't going to happen and the best we can hope for is a Norwegian type deal.

14 minutes ago, Ricardo said:

But my bank-manager always preferred to insist on credible investment-plans & cashflow-forecasts, when I went to ask him for a new loan  ...  he also had a bee-in-his-bonnet about assets to secure the loans, I can't blame him for defending his shareholders' interests.

 

You mean you didn't have to give him the shirt off of your back and give him a blowjob under the desk to get a bank loan?  I obviously went to the wrong bank!

Well at least UKIP are now blown out of the water and hopefully for good

18 minutes ago, nontabury said:

and what gullible fools voted for  Labour  and their uncosted  policies.

SOCIALIST are always good at spending other peoples money. 

This was an election based on rebuking the Tories to a great extent and people have achieved that.  Without the dire mess that May has made of her time in office there would be a different result.  She greatly misjudged the mood of the people and has paid the price for that.  People voted against May more than for the opposition and I was with them in that.

I never thought for moment that Labour would get a majority, it was all about the protest! 

4 minutes ago, nontabury said:

And I was comparing the turn out at this election against that at the Referendum. Because for the last year many Remoaners have continually stressed that the 2016 result went against them due to the low turn out, of the younger generation.

 Now they're implying that Labours better showing is the result of a higher turn out, while I' m saying it's the result of Mays dreadfull manifesto.Which has resulted in a higher % of the UKIP vote going to Labour. While of course fewer people placed a vote at this election. 

 

 

 

And what I am saying is that the people coming out to vote this time are to some extent made up of the young people who did not vote in the referendum hence the higher turnout figure against the last general election in 2015.  You have nothing to compare the referendum turnout to as there has only been one.  It isn't rocket science.  I do agree with you that May's dreadful manifesto was a considerable nail in the coffin

11 minutes ago, Prbkk said:

Yes, agreed. Corbin is very likeable. However, I would view the election of a Corbin-led govt as a disaster for the UK....a one-way ticket to touchy-freelyness and unbridled spending.ie ...Greece, Italy, we're headed your way.

I agree.  Corbin's labour party is a nice idea and in an ideal world it would work out fine.  But this is far from an ideal world and it would be an absolute disaster.

7 minutes ago, Ricardo said:

 

But they've voted for unaffordable freebies for themselves, which they will never actually receive, older voters know about how politicians will always promise the Earth to try to climb the greasy pole, but never then deliver.

 

But the kids don't know any better  ...  yet !

And the old fogies voted for Brexit based on the lies they were told.  They didn't know any better either.