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Forgive me for bitching, but the wife left for her mums today, I came home to a dirty house, flies on plates, dusty floors, I havent seen my washing and dirty clothes for god knows how long, jeez I am starting to become the pig of the house, This place is a fcukin mess. I;ve been to the folks and its a mess too. She works 6 days a week, so I know she has no energy, but I thought a wife would take care of the house? I am hearing alarm bells, and I never though I would be so niave. I have a real bad feeling I fcuked up and trusted someone I shoudlnt have? I am a lazy <deleted>, but I expect an orderly house for my work. And I never thought It would happen to me, I guess love has a lot to answer for, Guess I fcuked up...dam_n.

I hope OxfordWills visa is in order dam_n, some people just aint worth more than 2000B

I wonder if me and henryalleman are the only thai speakers on this thread. probably.

I'd be embarrased if I had been married to a Thai and couldn't speak more than bar-girl Thai.

She put it down to being the same word used for some fruit, I'm none the wiser!

Dude, that's her trying to get her way out of insulting you - why would she call you a type of fruit for buying peanuts?

Dude there are 2 stories going on here. im sorry i hijacked the thread. Im the peanut guy. hahaha

lol! 55555555555 gotta love this cess pit of a website forum, good one guys

Anyway to solve this problem in the first place, dont marry a poor thai girl.

dam_n! thank you! I knew I was missing something there, thanks again el dorko!

PS_7-11 plastic bag over your head without you knowing it, good luck to your family! Mwah!

It started a while back at the family home, words said to me indirectly, such as farang kii nok, and others which I don't know as they have a countryside accent and I cant understand.

Do they ask you for money ?

Jimmy, did I mention money?

Her family did - direct or indirect.

explain

Khii Nok is an impolite expression and means "stingy farang". They expect you to pay more for them.

I didnt pay a baht to them, and never will. I like being a stingy farang, one-way flights are more affordable.

Racist or not, you will always be a farang here in Thailand.

Would you want it any other way ?

Maigo, you crack me up, and I do believe there is no love in your life, however you still make me smile.

Racist or not, you will always be a farang here in Thailand. Yes, they do enjoy making fun of you.

I went to a GF's "family estate" about 2 to 3 hours drive from Bangkok. Basically in the middle of nowhere. My GF requested I buy a gold ring for her Mother for 4,000 baht. While we were there, I was exposed to the usual jerking around which I expected. There was once another farang in the village that was named Martin. Since then, every farang is called Martin. That's just one small example. When we left, her Mother made a remark concerning the ring and that I was cheap. I'm familiar with that word. I told her Mother that when I come next time, I'm bringing her a ring on wheels because it will be so fuc_king huge, she'll need the wheels to be able to walk. It's not uncommon, when you're the odd man out, to get jerked off.

WE will always be 'farang' here, that is what we are seen as, which is fair enough, I never argue this. BTW Going off on a mega twisted angle, any of you guys been taking a piss and had a thai guy (and his friend?!) staring at your 'saikrok' in the mens rooms? Thailand is a funny place sometimes, see the look on the Thai guys face as the reality kicks in, yes it is bigger.....

Anyway to solve this problem in the first place, dont marry a poor thai girl.

Jeez in a way I can relate to your madness, I'd love to fall in love with Paris Hilton, but it didnt work out like that. My wife isnt poor anymore, she has me. She is educated and hasnt worked in a bar, I do believe I am blessed, I love her with all of my heart. Tell me youve heard it all before, but I didnt pick her up in a bar, what will be will be, I am the happiest man I have ever been, but I can understand what you mean, I read, and I know.

I usually get ignored--which is fine with me. I enjoy sleeping in the hammock strung between two mango trees. I get woken up to eat. I read the paper. If I need anything they run off to get it. Otherwise they ignore me. It's quite pleasant!

I envy you!

Naam, thanks for the link, I'm not really sure what to make of it, but perhaps It makes a little more sense to me so thank you I appreciate it. The best thing for me would be to study thai to a level in which I can question these things, which isnt going to happen, so therefore perhaps a mai bpen rai would be more suitable, as for my wife, I love her so much, they can call me whatever they may wish. Sticks and stones.

Clearly from the above, you are thoughtful, care for your wife. Therefore would not really wish to go down the huffy ultimatum route, greating difficulty and conflict for your wife. My advice is try to turn it around, use humour rather than confrontation. Start calling yourself 'farang kee nok'.....perhaps the family and your wife will start wondering where you are picking this phrase up!!! perhaps then start calling yourself stupid farang.....just under your breath so your wife can hear it.....perhaps then she may wonder where you are picking this up from!!! In short try not to take yourself too seriously, Just my slant on things.....works for me!!!

Good luck

thanks, I will try, I dont have much time left, only a last visit anyhow.

I stopped at some traffic lights in bkk, opened the window and bought some of those nuts for 20 baht. my missus laughed and said "farang kee nok" lights went green and about 100m down the road i opened the window and threw them out, childish yes but i took it as a insult and im 100% sure my missus didnt think i knew what it translated to.

Farang kee nok is a insult.

Edited because i forgot to say my missus is well educated and thai/chinese. The car i was driving was a brand new merc bought as a gift from her papa.

You seem like a stable chap...if your wife is indeed well educated I'm sure you could have a conversation with her in English and asked her what she meant and you might have learned a thing or two...made you well educated too.

She put it down to being the same word used for some fruit, I'm none the wiser!

thanks everyone for posting replies to my question, I appreciate the feedback but I am not sure I am any the wiser!? God dam_n , I think you lot have confused me even further! l 555 I will take it on the chin, and ignore anything I hear onwards, maybe I will even through in some western humour If I hear the name calling again! I'm only here in Thailand for a little longer and trying to make sense of it all afer all. I had a good time but It must come to an end. Ive learnt a lot about Thailand, but some things I guess I will never know, thats ok, life goes on......

or a more accurate title would be, Bangkok is a major concrete eyesore, but then again what more did I expect from a corrupt third world dump?

Ah yeah, I'm a sexpat, ignorant, insensitive, and foolish least for even thinking of asking anyones opinion or experience on the matter, well thanks anyway! ....amazing no one mentioned thais dislike for farang, oh no that couldnt be? could it?................I'll let you work that one out for yourselves...........

I stopped at some traffic lights in bkk, opened the window and bought some of those nuts for 20 baht. my missus laughed and said "farang kee nok" lights went green and about 100m down the road i opened the window and threw them out, childish yes but i took it as a insult and im 100% sure my missus didnt think i knew what it translated to.

Farang kee nok is a insult.

Edited because i forgot to say my missus is well educated and thai/chinese. The car i was driving was a brand new merc bought as a gift from her papa.

I think you are too sensitive or don't know Thai language that good, Indeed " farangg kee nok can be an deep insult but its also a kind of fruit and sometimes its even can be joking in a lovely way, and even a compliment because you know how to apriciate walk side food. Its all depend on the tone of voice. I presume your misses made a joke and you misunderstand it. My wife is Sino/Thai also and she laughed when I told her your story.

i think you sould to your missus because you insulted her by acting like that

I dont think a wai would be suitable, however to explain that I didnt understand the words farang kii nok may well be suitable

the reason most guys will think it is an insult is because their only exposure to it is in the bar scene, where money rules, and customers such as themselves are frequently not overly generous (not saying they should be!). And as such they come across "falang kee nok" in the negative sense.

Once again evidence in support of the theory that hanging around the bar scene is not good for ones understanding of thai culture, language or.. anything.

i hope you take my comments on board before you let it disrupt your familial relationships based on what a majority of sexpats have said to you about it on the internet.

Thanks OxfordWill for wasting your precious time, I will take your comments on board and let it disrupt my relationships, as you seem to know what you are talking about, PS_are you a sexpat? Thanks for your ignorance, good luck and wear a helmet.

A little background: I've been living in Thailand for a while, I work in Singapore, I'm married, my wife is Thai, educated and pretty cool. Everytime I've gone to her parents house, I have done my best to speak Thai, to be polite and respect them in every best way I can and know and accept this isnt an easy culture to understand however I treat others with the respect I wish to be treated, this is the way I have been brought up. It started a while back at the family home, words said to me indirectly, such as farang kii nok, and others which I don't know as they have a countryside accent and I cant understand. I used to smile and brush them off, maybe its said in jest? However nowadays I have given all excuses possible not to go the parents home, they make me feel uncomfortable and the wife is always nagging at me to go with her. Maybe its inside my mind and I shouldnt be bothered with silly name calling, or perhaps its racism or perhaps they just don't like me, either way I'd like to know what you guys think.....any experiences with this? Thanks in adv!

Without knowing you, they probable feel inferior to you if they are simple folks, its normal.

But I have learned, you only get the respect you demand, so let it be known you dont like it.

I've let it be known that I dont like it, and I feel like I have just lost, even explaining this to my wife, oh well, I guess she can't understand it fully, I just wish she'd understand I don't understand why people should feel the need to put people down. I never did.

I have been proven time and time again that Thai people are racist are towards anyone they feel alien to themselves, live here and you will know, I was asking for experiences, please feel free to say what you really mean.

. The worst kind are the Thais in the tourist area who only look for money.

thanks for all the responses, I was right in the first instance, the moral of the story is, understand what is being said behind your back, money related or not..Thai people are not what they seem. Enjoy it and be aware of what people say and do, they smile for a reason....they can be racist, or do whatever they wish, as hey, your here as a 'guest', what can YOU do, nothing.

It started a while back at the family home, words said to me indirectly, such as farang kii nok, and others which I don't know as they have a countryside accent and I cant understand.

Do they ask you for money ?

Jimmy, did I mention money?

Her family did - direct or indirect.

explain

Kinkok can mean that you are cheap.. dont like to spend money or that you dont have it.

funny thing that, coming from people without, I'm guessing its a kind of social status they are refering to

I have been proven time and time again that Thai people are racist are towards anyone they feel alien to themselves, live here and you will know, I was asking for experiences, please feel free to say what you really mean.

It started a while back at the family home, words said to me indirectly, such as farang kii nok, and others which I don't know as they have a countryside accent and I cant understand.

Do they ask you for money ?

Jimmy, did I mention money?

Her family did - direct or indirect.

explain

It started a while back at the family home, words said to me indirectly, such as farang kii nok, and others which I don't know as they have a countryside accent and I cant understand.

Do they ask you for money ?

Jimmy, did I mention money?

Nice me says: Have you tried talking about this with your wife and explain to her that you are more and more reluctant to visit her family because they insult you and make you feel bad?

Bad me says: Grow some freaking ba11s and stop letting them walk all over you and treat you badly, have some bloody boundaries, stand up for yourself and if they are rude or insulting simply walk out the door and dont go back but letting it clearly be known why you arent going back, thats what I have done. You need to have some self respect and expect those you associate with to treat you with the same respect, otherwise disassociate yourself from them.

I cannot and will not say anymore, as I think, Sabum, you've nailed it on the head with extreme accuracy. Sometimes trying to understand another culture and xenophobia is quite easy. Thats all it is.....

My wife swears by lemon juice (!?) to get rid of Cobras, scorpions and nasties. I have cut up a few large centipede like insects around 7 inches long, I don have a picture, but has anyone seen these large blood red/purple centipede-like insects? They have a sting on the tail and can be deadly if your allergic, anyone know what the hel_l these things are?????!!