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Just think...for the price one Seal Premium a person could instead buy "three" Neta V's . I bet those who "recently" bought and received their Neta V at a cost of 549,000 baht...the car is now setting in their driveway....will by hopping mad they missed out on getting the car 50,000 baht cheaper. Boy, I would be. Below AutoLifeThailand webpage updated 4 hours ago includes a lot of Neta V pictures...more info for those interested in a Neta V. https://autolifethailand.tv/discount-price-neta-v-ev-bev-2023-thailand/

Just to add another snapshot of the Neta V Bt50K promotional discount....but as you said the car must be booked "and received" by 31 October which pretty much means just stock they have in Thailand already. Durn good price....going to be big spike in October sales for sure!!! https://droidsans.com/neta-v-new-promotion-for-october-2023/

If going with a Seal Premium....white exterior and black interior which are standard (no extra cost).....the price in Australia is 59,931 AUD which is approx 1,388,000 THB. The selling price in Thailand for a Seal Premium is 1,449,000 THB. Now since BEVs in Thailand incur a 2% Excise tax (reduced from 8% until 2025 I think) if there was zero percent excise tax that would lower the 1,449,000 THB price by 28,980 THB to 1,420,020 THB which means it's slightly cheaper to buy a Seal in Australia right now. But unless something has changed, in Australia BYD does not provide free scheduled maintenance except the very first one (see snapshot at bottom....the remaining 8 cost several hundred AUD per visit); in Thailand the scheduled maintenance is free. When considering Seal price and mx costs between Australia and Thailand I think it probably comes out to be basically even. Now when/if the Thai govt BEV subsidy goes away (maybe end of 2023) and assuming BYD would raise its prices back to pre-subsidiary levels then Thailand will once again be an expensive country to buy a BEV in compared to other western countries like Australia. https://bydautomotive.com.au/configurator/byd-seal?ref=website BYD Australia Scheduled Maintenance Costs https://bydautomotive.com.au/service-and-warranty

Yea....I noticed that when doing the pricing...basically unless you want the car in white and the standard black interior then a different color costs 1500AUD more along with another 1500AUD if wanting the blue interior. As far as I know BYD Thailand doesn't charge extra for a different colors...but I'm not sure?

I thought for a second that maybe the Australia 10% GST is not reflected in the BYD pricing. But when I went to the BYD AU website to price out an order for a Seal apparently it is included. Drive away price for a BYD Seal Premium in blue color would be 61,431 AUD which is approx 1,421,500 THB if, repeat if that includes the new & improved Seal pricing.....noticeably cheaper than the 1,449,000 THB price in Thailand. See snapshots below. The last snapshot of Atto 3 pricing still shows it a lot cheaper than a Seal Premium in Australia. Seal Price in Australia https://bydautomotive.com.au/configurator/byd-seal?ref=website Seal Price in Thailand Atto 3 Price in Australia https://bydautomotive.com.au/configurator/byd-atto-3?ref=website

The BMW X5 ICE motor was also used as a starter for the Starship Enterprise warp engines.....Scotty spent more maintenance time on the BMW engine than the warp engines.

A person's borderless/multicurrency acct is actually a subaccount of the Wise master acct maintained at a financial institution such as Community Federal and/or another partner bank Wise may use like Evolve for a US based acct. Now that Wise is switching from Evolve Bank back Community Federal that will change the ACH routing number (and possibly the acct number) of the person's borderless acct with Wise. It's not like Wise is a bank as they are not and they make that clear on their website....they are only a money services transmitter. They partner with various banks across the world which can give the illusion of being a bank but as mentioned they are not.

Actually, unless a vehicle was built "many" years ago, ICE vehicles have been a "computer on wheels" for many years. And when I say computer I mean "Electronic Control Units" (ECU) which comes in many varieties to control/monitor many different systems on the vehicle. Typically a vehicle will have a 40 to 150 ECUs spread around the vehicle especially an ICE vehicle which has all type of ECUs/sensors to monitor the combustion process. On a BEV there is no combustion process....many of the ECUs (computers) required on an ICEV and not required on a BEV. Now sure the traction battery for a BEV has a sophisticated traction Battery Management System (BMS) ECUs not found on ICEV but the rest of the BEV is less ECU intensive than a ICEV with all its combustion monitoring/control ECUs. Now the "Infotainment" display on a BEV does offer quite a few options to change certain driving characteristics of the vehicle like power response, steering feel, regenerative braking, etc., but I expect most people decide on a certain settings after driving the BEV for a few months and then rarely ever change those particular settings again. And most of the remaining settings in the "Infotainment" are more comfort, map, sound, lighting, etc., type settings/controls....kinda like the settings on a typical smart phone. So, assuming you know how to use a smartphone you are already qualified to use the "Infotainment Computer Thingie" in a BEV after reading the BEV Operating Manual. Now out and pick a BEV to buy if you are in the market for a new car!!!! ???? ECUs on a vehicle snapshots

Yes, as I talked in my post I would bet it was my bank vs Wise. And at bottom is a AseanNow post from early 2019 where this person's US bank (USAA in this case) began blocking transfers to Wise (i.e., an ACH "Push" transfer)....and this is when Community Federal Saving Bank (CFSB) was still Wise's partner....a couple of years before Wise switched from CFSB to Evolve. At this time in 2019 I also had ACH Push/Pull setup to Wise from USAA and mine continued to work fine to ACH Push funds to my Wise acct. But in 2021 when Wise switched from CFSB to Evolve I no longer could get an "actual" transfer to go thru to Enolve after verifying the new ACH transfer link via the trial deposit method or the other method which didn't use trial deposits. Yeap, could get the link setup fine/activated but an actual transfer would be thrown back in my face the next business day. Now an update to me setting up my new ACH Push/Pull link to CFSB with my US bank which also happens to be USAA. The two trial deposits arrived Wise yesterday and were immediately pulled back by my bank....all normal...the way it's suppose to work. Then also yesterday I verified those trial amounts on my bank's acct to validate/verify the new ACH transfer link to CFSB....the transfer link changed to active....ready to use...all normal....just like I had done with Evolve in 2021 and many other times over the years when setting up a transfer link to other US banks. Anyway, with the new ACH transfer link validated/active it was time to do the acid/operational test....do an actual transfer and see if it goes thru to Wise or gets rejected next day along with the bank blocking/deactivating the transfer link and sending me a notice of such action. I did the actual transfer and this morning I got notification from Wise of the funds arriving my Wise acct and checking my bank acct the transfer link is still active.....not block/deactivated....didn't get any notice of the transfer being rejected like before. So, at least for me, USAA is OK-fine with transfers to Wise partnering with CFSB although USAA was "not OK-fine" with transfers to Wise partnering with Evolve Bank. Just a security policy at my bank that was affecting me...and probably others also. I'm not sure how many US folks have setup up a borderless acct with Wise...it's free...and instead they just use an ACH "Pull" transaction initiated from the Wise end like I had to start doing for transfers when ACH Push transfer to Evolve didn't work for me. But if the folks did setup a borderless acct and ACH "Push" money into it (ACH is free at the great majority of US banks) when they do accomplish a Wise transfer to Thailand, say $5000 worth of baht instead of a Wise fee of $37.74 for doing an ACH debit (Pull) transaction (not to be confused with debit card) to fund the transfer the fee would be reduced to $30.32....almost a 20% reduction in the Wise fee. Plus, if you already have the money setting in the Wise borderless acct the transfer occurs faster since Wise already has the money....no need to wait until it arrives from your bank.

Whether and/or when to make the "ICE to BEV" big jump or go the "ICE to Hybrid then to BEV" with two small jumps can be tough choice to make for many people. For me, I decided against the interim step of buying a Hybrid because a Hybrid is a mixture of ICE and Electric which means you have two completely drive systems that must get along with each other...basically, you have more stuff (i.e., hardware, electronics, traction battery, etc.) that could break. Plus Hybrids come in so many different flavors of mild, full, plug-in, etc., which complicates the buying decision even more. Additionally, unless it's a Plug-in hybrid in most cases you really don't gain a big fuel mileage/efficiency increase over an ICE vehicle Also, I keep vehicles so long (over 10 years...like my 15 year old Fortuner I bought new) if I bought a Hybrid now I wouldn't buy another vehicle for at least a decade....by then we might have flying fusion-powered vehicles and I would have completely missed the BEV epoch. Yes, I know many Hybrids are being sold (so, so many vehicles with the Hybrid badge) as it's a way to transition from ICE to BEV for manufacturers and their customers. Manufacturers who are late to the BEV game, specifically Toyota and Honda, will milk Hybrids as long as they can to buy time to roll-out BEV models. So, for me, while I'm keeping my 15 year old Fortuner which still runs & looks great in buying my next vehicle I decided for the aforementioned reasons to skip a Hybrid vehicle and go for a BEV...the Atto 3 which I will hopefully get in about one week.

Community Federal Savings Bank (CFSB) was the U.S. partner bank Wise used up to 2 years ago but then transitioned to Evolve Bank. I remember it well...and review the 2 year old Reddit post at bottom for more info when Wise sent out a notice back then saying they were switching from CFSB to Evolve. Now Wise is switching from Evolve back to CFSB. Flip-flopping. Apparently Evolve Bank didn't work out well. Before the partner bank switch. money I would send/push from my U.S. bank to Wise to fund a transfer/top-up my Wise USD acct/wallet using the CFSB routing/acct number worked with no problem...never a problem...I did numerous such transfers. When Wise switched from CSFB to Evolve two years ago I changed the ACH transfer links from the U.S. bank I use from CSFB to Evolve. Setting up the a new ACH transfer link to Evolve Bank using the two trial deposits/withdrawals method worked fine. HOWEVER, whenever trying to do an actual transfer my U.S. bank would reject the transfer the next day and then block/deactivate the ACH transfer link. The rejection message given was invalid routing number although the routing was indeed valid as I used the routing number to successfully set the ACH transfer link using the trial deposits method. When talking to my bank Customer Service they couldn't figure out the problem since the routing number was indeed valid, but I figure the bank's Security Dept was just rejecting Evolve Bank for actual transfers "to Wise." And when talking to Wise they couldn't understand why the reject occurred either. So, I deleted the deactivated ACH transfer link and set it all up again....two trial deposits successfully arrived my Wise acct and were successfully pulled back. I verified the transfers amounts and now my ACH transfer link at my US bank is setup again. I tried another actual transfer of funds and once again the next day the transfer was rejected and the transfer link deactivated by my bank. It was like the Ground Hog day movie. Phone calls to the my bank and Wise trying to figure out the real reason once didn't reveal anything....both couldn't figure out what is going on....but I figure it was just my bank rejecting actual transfers to Wise using the new Evolve Bank account. Ever since then I have just let Wise do an ACH Pull of money from my bank to fund the transfer....costs a little more that way versus me being able to do an ACH Push but the ACH Pull methods works fine. Yesterday I initiated the setup of an ACH transfer link with CFSB using the trial deposit methods. Will take around 3 business days for that process to complete. Then I will try to do an actual transfer again...hopefully, it will not be rejected next day since CFSB use to work fine for such transfer to Wise. Time will tell. 2 year old reddit post below talking about the Wise's switch from CFSB to Evolve Bank. What goes around comes around with Wise announcement a few days ago they are now switching from Evolve Bank to CFSB. A flip flop.

And the associated Medicare B Premium adjustment for 2024....see the 12 Oct 2023 CMS news weblink below for full details...partial quote also below. https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/fact-sheets/2024-medicare-parts-b-premiums-and-deductibles 2024 Medicare Parts A & B Premiums and Deductibles Oct 12, 2023 On October 12, 2023, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) released the 2024 premiums, deductibles, and coinsurance amounts for the Medicare Part A and Part B programs, and the 2024 Medicare Part D income-related monthly adjustment amounts...... Medicare Part B Premium and Deductible Medicare Part B covers physicians’ services, outpatient hospital services, certain home health services, durable medical equipment, and certain other medical and health services not covered by Medicare Part A. Each year, the Medicare Part B premium, deductible, and coinsurance rates are determined according to provisions of the Social Security Act. The standard monthly premium for Medicare Part B enrollees will be $174.70 for 2024, an increase of $9.80 from $164.90 in 2023. The annual deductible for all Medicare Part B beneficiaries will be $240 in 2024, an increase of $14 from the annual deductible of $226 in 2023......

Today I got my monthly home electric bill and I noticed the Ft charge had went way down....from 0.9119/KWH to 0.2048/KWH. As you know the Ft charge is a very significant portion of a person's electric bill. I had also monitored a few more tanks of diesel fuel in my Toyota Fortuner to update my Km/Liter number. So, I decided to update above fuel comparison primarily due to the big drop in electricity Ft fee. At the bottom is the updated comparison. Probably the most key comparison number below in how much cheaper "fuel cost wise per kilometer driven" the BYD Atto 3 will be compared to my Toyota Fortuner 3.0L Diesel---a little over 68% cheaper per kilometer....a little over two-thirds cheaper. Or another way to easily remember the Diesel to Electric costs is every kilometer driven in the Fortuner costs me approx Bt3 in diesel fuel while every kilometer driven in the Atto will cost approx Bt1 in electricity fuel....or simply a two-thirds savings. Since I've seen many posts where people have stated widely varying fossil fuel and electricity costs (all over the map especially for KWH costs) I wanted to see specifically what my costs were since I know exactly how much (to the stang) each additional KWH pumped in the EV at home from the wall charger will cost me and exactly how much my diesel fuel costs are. Here's the updated comparison:

Yeap....this thread will prove a perpetual motion machine is indeed possible. But never the less some good crossfeed is being provided and allows some people to vent their concern/frustration (me included).

Based on my personal experience with CW when physically going there to do your 90 day report because you online submittal is getting rejected (with no reason given) or has been pending for weeks when you ask the immigration officer processing your report why your online report is being rejected, why it's still pending after weeks, etc., they will just mumble something along the lines of maybe problems with the system or they don't know as in other officers (probably trainees) located in another part of the building process the online reports. Like two side by side offices basically doing the same thing but they don't interface with/talk to each other. Bottomline always physically go do your report before within +15, -7 day reporting window if your online report doesn't get approved within that window which means that -7 day part may be smaller if a weekend/holiday occurs just before. Telling the officer you shouldn't be fined for late reporting since you online report was submitted within the reporting window is probably not going to safe a person from being fined since a rejected/pending report counts as nothing to avoid a fine...only an approved report counts or a forgiving officer.

After reviewing a bunch Lazada reviews on various OBD2 adapters I found one review which said below OBD2 adapter worked to read most, but all the important OBD2 data on his Atto 3...which means it should work on the Dolphin and Seal also. The reviewer also included photos to confirm. And he even loaded photos showing the assoicated OBD2 Android app installed and working on the Atto 3 infotainment system and also his Android phone. And the adapter also works on Apple IOS. Fortunately this particular OBD2 adapter is also dirt cheap....around Bt50 on Lazada and Shopee. I ordered one this evening. See below snapshot for more info. While the more expensive OBD2 adapters....starting at several hundred baht and going up to thousands of baht (approaching Bt10K) for some brand name adapters if this adapter works well it will explain why this particular OBD2 adapter is sold by "many" Lazada/Shopee sellers and has been bought in the thousands....of course a very cheap price is probably the key driver followed by the fact it just works pretty good. If you do a search on Lazada/Shopee the adapter below is going to appear many, many times in the search results. Many, many in-Thailand sellers which means you get your order delivered in days vs having to wait for weeks if the seller is China based.

Looks like his latest video on this subject was Part 5 uploaded 9 days ago. After watching all five I've decided my plans to take the traction battery out of my Atto one weekend, completely disassemble it to ensure it was put together correctly, and then put it back together should be delayed (forever). This attempted full disassembly also explains why almost all EV batteries are completely replaced when a certain problems develop versus being reparable at a local shop. But who knows, Somchai's Shop may still get brave and give it a try and develop ingenious methods to do it....but I'm highly doubtful at this point. And since his last video (Part 5) was 9 days ago I sure hope while making Part 6 (not uploaded yet) the battery didn't blow-up and bring in the fire department and ambulance. ????

It's not only the boat getting from China to Thailand, but then the thousands of vehicles on that boat being offloaded and "cleared for release by Customs." Earlier this week this was a major issue expressed by my dealership's manager. He said getting a vehicle cleared thru Thai Customs can take weeks as Customs was very paperwork picky, slow, and wanted to absolutely triple ensure any taxes/fees were paid before release. Plus, he was none to complimentary towards the work efficiency of the govt Customs workers (i.e., they were slow). Of course I fully expect his story might have been a little one-sided by making BYD appear as an angel and govt Customs appearing as a devil. But whether Thai Customs is really as slow as my dealership made them out to be I fully expect vehicles do take at least a few days to a week to clear Customs....and maybe sometimes much longer as the dealership was ranting about. Then the distributor can take full procession where he might be moving them from port to a temporary storage locations (a BIG field/parking lot somewhere), and then redistributed out to dealerships. Anyway, my red Atto is "almost" here.

Another update: the dealership called this morning at 10:38am giving us an projected delivery date. But before I say the delivery date let me tell a little story. While the wife and were driving to the market we discussed whether we should call/visit our dealership ASAP and ask why they didn't call within 2 days as they promised which ended yesterday/Thursday. We decided to call. So, I pulled out my phone to dial the number which I had saved and once hitting the dial button I would hand the phone to the wife. Well, "at the exact same instant" I pressed dial a window popped up for an incoming call and it was from the number I was calling....the dealership. For a split second I thought I had pressed the wrong button or something and another split second later I realized the dealership was calling us and they had initiated the call probably a second before I pressed the button to dial them since there is always a second or so lag from pressing dial and it actually dialing. I pressed answer at 10:38am, it was the dealership, and I passed the phone to the wife. Just amazing they initiated the call to us while I was pressing dial to call them. I'll remember that the rest of my life. The call was good news. The dealership said "Rever" who is the importer/distributor for BYD vehicles in Thailand and who all BYD dealerships get their BYDs from said our red Atto is projected to be delivered to the dealership next Friday/20 Oct....not a rock solid, 100%, for-sure date but the dealership said this is the kind of delivery date they get for all their vehicles...most of the time it's right on-target, but sometimes it may be a few days earlier or later. Once actually delivered it will probably take another day or two to precheck the vehicle and install the window film. So, it looks like about a week from now. For those awaiting their BYD delivery and getting a BIG ballpark, rough estimated delivery date you might want to ask your dealership exactly what is the BYD distributor Rever estimating for a delivery date as that might show the dealership you know Rever is key as to when delivery will occur as Rever is the one that deals with the BYD factory in China and orders/receives the cars from China which are in turn distributed to the 60 or so BYD dealerships across Thailand. https://www.reverautomotive.com/en/faq

Oh yea, I have the manual downloaded and been reading it for a couple of weeks now to include the Break-In Period paragraphs on page 95 (snapshot below). Plus maybe watched ever Youtube video on the Atto3. But I will have to admitted I have not read the manual from beginning to end....I just been quickly scanning some parts, scanning some parts at a slow rate, and also doing the slow, deep reading on other parts. Typically I begin wondering "something specific" about the car (like maybe Break-In guidance) and then try to find info on that specific something in the manual. The manual break-in guidance is drive the vehicle in Eco mode for the first 2,000Km and avoid emergency breaking for the first 300km. Expect it very similar on all BYD model...Atto, Seal, Dolphin. Summary: drive it easy for the first couple thousand kilometers.

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The PTT charging app just updated again/as of 12 Oct....only two days after their 10 Oct that had some major changes in bookings...and apparently also some people having problems with the updated app. When comparing the "What's New" summary between the 10 Oct and 12 Oct updates (above and below) I don't see any difference. But there must have been some glitch that was very significant for the app to be updated within 48 hours. 12 Oct Update

I didn't say such...maybe you meant to reply to SingAPorn's post?

Yea...I drive daily in the greater Bangkok area/surrounding provinces. Up to about 6-8 years ago I frequently come upon traffic police check points where you had to drive thru slowly so the police could look for your annual regristration sticker which is suppose to be on your windshield and/or glance in the vehicle. But now the checkpoints are much, much less and focus on commercial trucks & vehicles that standout like a sore thumb in terms of a traffic violation. And here in the Bangkok area it use to be very common to be ambushed by a traffic cop after making a turn at an intersection who then wanted to give a ticket for supposedly not making the turn properly, being in a wrong lane, etc. But once again the great majority of that disappeared a half dozen or so years ago. I attribute this change to police leadership now relying on traffic cameras to send you tickets in the mail and the Thai public complaining about bad traffic being made worst by way too many checkpoints. And maybe just a dash--just a small amount--of wanting to reduce some traffic police corruption that was getting out of control in many locations. Heck, here in the Bangkok area it's got much harder than years back to see any traffic cops on the roads...you still see them but much fewer and much less frequently.

Update: was not surprised...no phone call came. The Thai wife and I still discussing when to follow-up again with the dealership about a firm or firmer delivery date. The wife is not pleased a phone call didn't come...a promised phone call that was suppose to come even if the dealership said no firm date yet but they are still trying to get a date. Yea, if you bump into a not-so-happy Thai woman today please beware as it could be my wife looking for a neck to squeeze tightly....yes, beware.